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RE: September Service Changes - Andreos1 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:02 pm)DH9 wrote 730, 734, 643.
Go North East rarely use three digit numbers now except in Peterlee. Have other operators got these?
730 to Stanley Buses? Don't know about the other two.
Just a guess.
They've used the 9xx series for 'half-hearted' attempts to fill the gap left by commercial decisions.
Can't remember the last time they used the 6 or 7 prefix on a commercial route.
RE: September Service Changes - Keeiajs - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:02 pm)DH9 wrote 730, 734, 643.They should remove the 3-Digit in Peterlee, seems as though the 202/208 > 62/62A & 265 > 65
Go North East rarely use three digit numbers now except in Peterlee. Have other operators got these?
730 to Stanley Buses? Don't know about the other two.
Just a guess.
RE: September Service Changes - Ambassador - 11 Aug 2021
Isn't the 734 the old number of the Chester Le Street - Birtley - Ouston circular that got axed when the 709/728 all changed?
Still would like the logic of the 28s terminating in Market Street explaining - got low use withdrawal written all over it.
RE: September Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 11 Aug 2021
Is this the return of the same 643 that was scrapped 2 years ago? (scroll down to changes to the 6) "Service changes from 21 July | Go North East" https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/service-changes-from-21-july-373932
(11 Aug 2021, 4:12 pm)Ambassador wrote Isn't the 734 the old number of the Chester Le Street - Birtley - Ouston circular that got axed when the 709/728 all changed?If one of the 28 variations is still using old Durham Road, then by moving it to Market street, it's at least in the same place as the 56 so more likely to pick up passengers travelling locally.
Still would like the logic of the 28s terminating in Market Street explaining - got low use withdrawal written all over it.
RE: September Service Changes - Thomas12 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:14 pm)BusLoverMum wrote Is this the return of the same 643 that was scrapped 2 years ago? (scroll down to changes to the 6) "Service changes from 21 July | Go North East" https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/service-changes-from-21-july-373932
I don't think it'll be exactly the same, as the 643 used to serve Watergate Estate (which the 6 does now) and Sunniside.
It was operated by GCT too.
September Service Changes - cbma06 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:08 pm)Keeiajs wrote They should remove the 3-Digit in Peterlee, seems as though the 202/208 > 62/62A & 265 > 65
The 3 digit ones that remain will be 201,206,209 and 210, with the secured 239 which was the original service number with United.
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RE: September Service Changes - big mac - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote They've used the 9xx series for 'half-hearted' attempts to fill the gap left by commercial decisions.The 643, 730 and 734 have got the 925 written all over them. Come the next round of changes they're nearly certain to be withdrawn again if they're not subsidised.
Can't remember the last time they used the 6 or 7 prefix on a commercial route.
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(11 Aug 2021, 4:12 pm)Ambassador wrote Isn't the 734 the old number of the Chester Le Street - Birtley - Ouston circular that got axed when the 709/728 all changed?Is the Market Street thing really that big a deal? It's still a central location in Newcastle so it's not as if they've moved the service away from the shops. An entrance to Eldon Square is only about a minute away from Market Street.
Still would like the logic of the 28s terminating in Market Street explaining - got low use withdrawal written all over it.
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RE: September Service Changes - DH9 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:26 pm)big mac wrote The 643, 730 and 734 have got the 925 written all over them. Come the next round of changes they're nearly certain to be withdrawn again if they're not subsidised.643 keeps being rebooted in different forms. Estates in S. E. Whickham will continue to need a bus.
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Some sort of service is needed for Burnhope so a service based on the 730 / 30 / MC1, etc. will survive. DCC seem keen on keeping the Lanchester link going too.
734 may eventually go though as bets 34 reverts at some time in the future.
RE: September Service Changes - minibus1474 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:26 pm)big mac wrote The 643, 730 and 734 have got the 925 written all over them. Come the next round of changes they're nearly certain to be withdrawn again if they're not subsidised.No bus shelters on Market Street (East)
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Is the Market Street thing really that big a deal? It's still a central location in Newcastle so it's not as if they've moved the service away from the shops. An entrance to Eldon Square is only about a minute away from Market Street.
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Ne14ne1 - ne14ne1 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:53 pm)minibus1474 wrote No bus shelters on Market Street (East)
..yet.
RE: September Service Changes - big mac - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:53 pm)minibus1474 wrote No bus shelters on Market Street (East)There is a shelter at the stop on Market Street outside the Co-op, though, and that's the stop the vast majority of people tend to use.
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RE: September Service Changes - V514DFT - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote They've used the 9xx series for 'half-hearted' attempts to fill the gap left by commercial decisions.701,702,and 703
Can't remember the last time they used the 6 or 7 prefix on a commercial route.
RE: September Service Changes - Keeiajs - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote They've used the 9xx series for 'half-hearted' attempts to fill the gap left by commercial decisions.Hexham
Can't remember the last time they used the 6 or 7 prefix on a commercial route.
RE: September Service Changes - DeltaMan - 11 Aug 2021
If they are going to be awarded funds for supported services then I'd like to see GNE doing something similar to what Transdev have done with the supported network around the Ribble Valley with a dedicated brand.
GNE do have form in the Tynedale area with Tynedale Links. Something like that for the Durham area to raise awareness of those services should be considered, part of me thinks DCC should at least make that part of any contract to be honest.
RE: September Service Changes - Keeiajs - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 5:45 pm)DeltaMan wrote If they are going to be awarded funds for supported services then I'd like to see GNE doing something similar to what Transdev have done with the supported network around the Ribble Valley with a dedicated brand.They did in Consett, but then the V's have basically halfed in there services since 2013, I would say they do it for Percy Main area, just GCT do it on a night. & Peterlee aswell.
GNE do have form in the Tynedale area with Tynedale Links. Something like that for the Durham area to raise awareness of those services should be considered, part of me thinks DCC should at least make that part of any contract to be honest.
RE: September Service Changes - JP6004 - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 5:00 pm)big mac wrote There is a shelter at the stop on Market Street outside the Co-op, though, and that's the stop the vast majority of people tend to use.That's market street west
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RE: September Service Changes - Ambassador - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 4:26 pm)Big Mac wrote
Is the Market Street thing really that big a deal? It's still a central location in Newcastle so it's not as if they've moved the service away from the shops. An entrance to Eldon Square is only about a minute away from Market Street.
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it’s bound to set down outside the old magistrate courts which is the edge of the centre and not the most pleasant place to wait. It’s a canny hike across a busy junction to Pilgrim Street but it’s more so the lack of integration with a hub like Eldon square and Haymarket and onward travel options.
If it comes up Tyne Bridge slip road and stops at the top of Grey St that’s far more flexible but to punish customers with an hourly service to give more options on a well served old Durham Rd and Bensham corridor seems odd.
RE: September Service Changes - Train8261 - 11 Aug 2021
Market Street where the 27/56/57/58 all start from is becoming very crowed on the 5th September
All services from the 5th September (that run during the entire day)
Go North East 1/27/28/28A/28B/51/52/56/57/58
Stagecoach 32/32A/35
GCT 6/32A
All on one part of the street. This will be really crowded. Especially since at certain parts of the day. The 27, 56 & 58 are all on Market Street
September Service Changes - atlantean560 - 11 Aug 2021
This all lies directly at newcastle council's doorstep, they should have given some serious thought into incorporating a new terminus around the development and regeneration of the worswick street area, very shortsighted made even worse by their plans to pedestrianise blackett street.
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RE: September Service Changes - Ambassador - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 8:32 pm)atlantean560 wrote This all lies directly at newcastle council's doorstep, they should have given some serious thought into incorporating a new terminus around the development and regeneration of the worswick street area, very shortsighted made even worse by their plans to pedestrianise blackett street.
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I guess the problem is they don’t actually own enough of the land and were so desperate to regenerate they handed the Reuben Brothers planning permission without any caveats
RE: September Service Changes - Keeiajs - 11 Aug 2021
Newcastle need a new massive bus station near Market Street, for every service. As Eldon Square is too small. That should be where the HayMarket Services go into.
RE: September Service Changes - Storx - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 8:32 pm)atlantean560 wrote This all lies directly at newcastle council's doorstep, they should have given some serious thought into incorporating a new terminus around the development and regeneration of the worswick street area, very shortsighted made even worse by their plans to pedestrianise blackett street.
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Surely it's more of a Nexus, NECA, Transport North East, NEBus or whatever one they want to go with this week's problem more than Newcastle City Council.
They should Market Street one way Westbound only anyway imo and extend the Westbound bus stops the length of the street with more space for standing passengers. Apart from the 53 nothing is really impacted who could easily go down the Bigg Market and rejoin via Pilgram Street, possibly stopping on Newgate Street. Agreed with the bus station though.
RE: September Service Changes - Keeiajs - 11 Aug 2021
What is the 41 Service, can someone help? [Scroll right to the bottom]
https://images-gonortheast.passenger-website.com/downloads/5%20Sept%20Service%20Changes%20-%20Customer%20booklet_.pdf
RE: September Service Changes - Train8261 - 11 Aug 2021
Looks like an edit problem. 41 is Howden to Hadrian Park
RE: September Service Changes - Keeiajs - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 9:33 pm)Train8261 wrote Looks like an edit problem. 41 is Howden to Hadrian ParkYep that is what I was thinking now I have seen and thought about it a bit more.
RE: September Service Changes - V514DFT - 11 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 9:33 pm)Train8261 wrote Looks like an edit problem. 41 is Howden to Hadrian ParkHowdon,not Howden
RE: September Service Changes - Rapidsnap - 11 Aug 2021
Wish there was a like button for Tez's post. Annoys me when people spell Howdon wrong.
RE: September Service Changes - Michael - 12 Aug 2021
(11 Aug 2021, 2:18 pm)Michael wrote Few updates on the changes page:
28 | 28A (Newcastle – Gateshead – Chester-le-Street)
UPDATE: Services 28/28A will be revised to terminate at Market Street in Newcastle, instead of Eldon Square. In Gateshead, the 28A will run via Whitehall Road instead of Bensham Bank.
Due to low demand, service 28A will be revised to terminate at Perkinsville. Service 28 will still run beyond Perkinsville to Chester-le-Street, serving Pelton, High Handenhold, Beamish, Grange Villa and Pelton Fell, maintaining local links around these areas, once per hour.
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34 (Waldridge Park – Chester-le-Street – Ouston – Upreth Grange)
This service will omit Pelaw Estate, instead running via A693 and Pelton Aged Miners. An extra journey will be added in the morning peak to provide extra capacity.
A new service 734 will operate every 60 minutes on Monday to Saturday daytimes providing a connection between Chester le Street and Pelaw Estate.
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71 (Chester-le-Street – Houghton-le-Spring – Seaham)
UPDATE: Service 71 will continue to operate its current timetable.
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Under the M6/M7/M8 changes:
Passengers travelling to Metrocentre from parts of Fellside Road and Broadway, along with Lambton Avenue and Duckpool Lane, will be replaced by new service 643
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30 (Stanley – Lanchester)
UPDATE: New service 730 will operate between Stanley and Lanchester, replacing service 30.
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643: https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/GNE/643?date=2021-10-11&direction=outbound
730: https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/GNE/730?date=2021-09-06&direction=outbound
734: https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/GNE/734?date=2021-09-06&direction=outbound
All under a white banner on the GNE site.
RE: September Service Changes - Thomas12 - 12 Aug 2021
On a separate note, I really don't understand why the Wallsend-Howdon part of the 41 wasn't merged with the 42/42A.
Would've provided more links from Howdon to Benton ASDA, Four Lane Ends and the key employment sites, especially when the 41 and 42 don't connect at all in Wallsend.
RE: September Service Changes - User2613 - 12 Aug 2021
734 will interwork with the 28 in Chester.