(23 Jul 2015, 9:05 pm)aureolin wrote Internal branding is difficult, as you can't standardise it across your fleet. If you've seen the MAX branding on the Arriva VDL/Gemini 2s, you'll see what I mean. Although it's been applied, it serves no purpose, as you'd have to angle your neck at a 90 degree angle to read it. The same problem with the Volvo/Gemini 2s that GNE have, especially on the lower deck.

Streetlites, for example, would be great to apply internal branding to, because of the shaping of the body towards roof in the saloon. But then you'd encounter people complaining that it's not standard across the fleet...

(23 Jul 2015, 8:54 pm)citaro5284 wrote What is your feeling then......

(23 Jul 2015, 9:55 pm)Malarkey wrote For me: (The Wearsider) for the Gold Mercs Service 36 follows the River Wear quite closely along it route from CLS to Town End Farm, along with crossing it at Monkwearmouth, Likewise Service 35 also follows it to some extent, both services also pass quite a few local landmarks such as Stadium of Light, Monkwearmouth Bridge, Lumley Castle & Durham International Cricket Ground which could be depicted on the Branding, similar to the Toon Link and Revised Black Cats Brands.

As for the Silver Mercs (The Village Miner or The Coal Miner), Quite simply really, the route the 61 serves many Mining Villages such as Ryhope on its way to its terminus of Murton, The 61 also stops close to the Ryhope Engines Museum located on Waterworks Road just off of Stockton Road in Ryhope which would further add meaning to the Brand.

(23 Jul 2015, 10:06 pm)tyresmoke wrote How's about simply "the Villager" ?

(23 Jul 2015, 10:06 pm)tyresmoke wrote How's about simply "the Villager" ?

(23 Jul 2015, 8:53 pm)Diamond One wrote i have a feeling what they are called but i wanna know ahead of time to let others know

(23 Jul 2015, 10:59 pm)GMitchelhill wrote The Gold Citaros at Deptford are all going to be called Bob.

(23 Jul 2015, 9:55 pm)Malarkey wrote For me: (The Wearsider) for the Gold Mercs Service 36 follows the River Wear quite closely along it route from CLS to Town End Farm, along with crossing it at Monkwearmouth, Likewise Service 35 also follows it to some extent, both services also pass quite a few local landmarks such as Stadium of Light, Monkwearmouth Bridge, Lumley Castle & Durham International Cricket Ground which could be depicted on the Branding, similar to the Toon Link and Revised Black Cats Brands.

As for the Silver Mercs (The Village Miner or The Coal Miner), Quite simply really, the route the 61 serves many Mining Villages such as Ryhope on its way to its terminus of Murton, The 61 also stops close to the Ryhope Engines Museum located on Waterworks Road just off of Stockton Road in Ryhope which would further add meaning to the Brand.

(23 Jul 2015, 3:31 pm)R852 PRG wrote How about you have a crack at doing a better job?

(24 Jul 2015, 7:13 am)GX03 SVC wrote indiGo stinks of Trent Barton, in my opinion.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:20 am)S813 FVK wrote And 'Red Arrows' doesn't? Yes Go North East have added an 's' on the end of it but it is still extrememly similar. 
Eventhough i know it is similar to trentbarton, i just let the fact right past me.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:23 am)Michael wrote Black Cats to... when that comes back... although no idea when.............Pronto........both name wise..

(24 Jul 2015, 7:27 am)S813 FVK wrote Exactly. t the wnd of the day, it isn't illegal for companies to share a brand name. I suppose it's only enthusiasts who will know that thw brand is remotely similar/the same as a brand elsewhere.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:34 am)Michael wrote Na shouldn't be, if they go with their own idea of how the brands will be... example: GNE Black cats... will be a red base with white and Sunderland landmarks on, where as Trent Barton's is black base with a silver cat.. or that was it last time i seen a updated picture of it.

Pronto is the same.... Blue base here, Trent Bartons is a pink base.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:40 am)S813 FVK wrote The black cat is still the same as the last time you saw an updated picture of it

It could be argued that Go North East have also stolen the 'Pronto' name from Stagecoach too since they also operate the service using 64 reg E300s (used to be 09 reg MANviros) whereas TrentBarton use 03 reg Solars. I wonder which you would choose...I'd go for the Solars myself.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:43 am)Michael wrote I didn't even know that Stagecoach had a "pronto" brand haha.

I think we'll need a thread for Trent Barton at this rate!

(24 Jul 2015, 7:46 am)S813 FVK wrote Its exactly the same as TrentBarton. Same route - admittedly, Stagecoach do have more control over the service than TrentBarton.

Stagecoach AD Enviro 300 27183 SL64HXS - Mansfield by David Burrell, on Flickr

trentbarton pronto 611 FJ03 VVZ by mattb251, on Flickr

(24 Jul 2015, 7:40 am)S813 FVK wrote The black cat is still the same as the last time you saw an updated picture of it

It could be argued that Go North East have also stolen the 'Pronto' name from Stagecoach too since they also operate the service using 64 reg E300s (used to be 09 reg MANviros) whereas TrentBarton use 03 reg Solars. I wonder which you would choose...I'd go for the Solars myself.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:23 am)Michael wrote Black Cats to... when that comes back... although no idea when.............Pronto........both name wise..

(24 Jul 2015, 7:58 am)Tom wrote Isn't Black Cats more linked to Sunderland though?

(24 Jul 2015, 7:50 am)LeeCalder wrote I think the Trent Barton comparisons are quite strange, because although the names are the same, that is really the only comparison. My auntie and uncle live in Tutbury, which is a small village which "The Villager" V1 goes through and that brand is excellent. However, the links to Red Arrows, Black Cats, Pronto are not that strong. As the brands are not that similar.

(24 Jul 2015, 10:29 am)pdiddy wrote Is the X21 gonna be rebranded. ....

What's it gonna be called then!!!

(24 Jul 2015, 10:31 am)Jimmi wrote Angel (if rumours are to be believed)