(28 Nov 2017, 7:11 pm)Michael wrote Na there both getting refurbished too.

(28 Nov 2017, 6:14 pm)deanmachine wrote It says a direct link to Newcastle from the Scotch Estate, so I doubt they'll needlessly change to a 27 again in Jarrow, it'll be 26/27 the whole way. You'd think.

(28 Nov 2017, 7:29 pm)Andreos1 wrote The way I read it, was that all buses between Newcastle and Jarrow were 27's. At Jarrow, the route splits.
26 - Shields via Hosp.
27 - Shields via Tyne Dock.

If you're getting on at Hebburn and needing to go to S Tyneside hosp, you will see a 27 approaching. Do you stop it in the hope it changes to a 26? Do you stop it and ask the driver if they're changing to a 26? Or do you use the timetable (bearing in mind they're running at 10min intervals on that stretch) and board it, knowing that the bus due, is going to change in to a 26?

(28 Nov 2017, 7:32 pm)ifm001 wrote Nope. This is incorrect. Read the information again for clarity.

Dan/Citaro5284 can you put a word ib to get the GNE news page reworded please

Increased frequency of the Crusader 27 service, which will operate every 10 minutes between Newcastle, Gateshead, Hebburn and Jarrow. From Jarrow towards South Shields, buses will operate every 20 minutes on the current 27 route via Tyne Dock, and every 20 minutes on the number 26 via South Tyneside District Hospital, replacing service 88/88A.

(28 Nov 2017, 7:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote What is it meant to be then?


26 and 27 both operating between Newcastle and Shields? But splitting at Jarrow?

(28 Nov 2017, 7:39 pm)S813 FVK wrote Yes. 

The full details of all the service changes with timetables etc will be posted later, that is just a brief summary of what will be happening.

(28 Nov 2017, 7:41 pm)Andreos1 wrote Oof, I think it is very poorly worded if that is the case.
No mention at all of the the 26 running between Newcastle and Jarrow in the press release.

(28 Nov 2017, 7:49 pm)S813 FVK wrote "The 26 service via South Tyneside Hospital, will also provide new direct links to Newcastle and Gateshead from parts of Jarrow such as Primrose and Scotch Estate."

Increased frequency of the Crusader 27 service, which will operate every 10 minutes between Newcastle, Gateshead, Hebburn and Jarrow.

(29 Nov 2017, 3:34 pm)Ex-conductor wrote Another mess created by Go North East. What on earth is the point of having a bus service from South Shields to North Shields via such a circuitous route? Indeed what’s the point of a service between the two towns, when the ferry takes only 7 minutes? Surely the intelligent way of satisfying the demand for a direct bus from Hebburn to Sunderland would have been to extend the service 9 journeys which currently terminate at Jarrow, leaving the North Shields-Sunderland link intact, albeit only hourly. Yes, this would have created a 40/20 split between buses running from Sunderland to Hebburn, but sometimes this can’t be avoided.

Now North Shields will have another GNE route covering places no-one will want to visit, to add to the other useless routes serving the town, i.e. to Wrekenton, Kibblesworth and the very lengthy routes to the Metrocentre, Cramlington and Kingston Park. It’s all very well arguing that the demand for travel from North Shields to Sunderland was not very heavy, however it’s even less likely that people will want to travel the full length of the extended service 5. It appears that GNE bus routes are designed to satisfy GNE, and not the people it should be serving. Thank Goodness for the Metro.

(29 Nov 2017, 3:34 pm)Ex-conductor wrote Another mess created by Go North East. What on earth is the point of having a bus service from South Shields to North Shields via such a circuitous route? Indeed what’s the point of a service between the two towns, when the ferry takes only 7 minutes? Surely the intelligent way of satisfying the demand for a direct bus from Hebburn to Sunderland would have been to extend the service 9 journeys which currently terminate at Jarrow, leaving the North Shields-Sunderland link intact, albeit only hourly. Yes, this would have created a 40/20 split between buses running from Sunderland to Hebburn, but sometimes this can’t be avoided.

Now North Shields will have another GNE route covering places no-one will want to visit, to add to the other useless routes serving the town, i.e. to Wrekenton, Kibblesworth and the very lengthy routes to the Metrocentre, Cramlington and Kingston Park. It’s all very well arguing that the demand for travel from North Shields to Sunderland was not very heavy, however it’s even less likely that people will want to travel the full length of the extended service 5. It appears that GNE bus routes are designed to satisfy GNE, and not the people it should be serving. Thank Goodness for the Metro.

(29 Nov 2017, 4:40 pm)ifm001 wrote Because people like me who live on the route between South shields and Boldon like to go to Royal Quays and North Shields as there are more shops that in South Shields. So its not a pointless service in any means.

(29 Nov 2017, 6:43 pm)Ex-conductor wrote I’m afraid that my point is being missed here. I am concentrating on travel from North Shields, and my main point is that it is more likely that passengers will want to travel from there to Sunderland, rather than to any of the points offered beyond Jarrow. Currently service 9 goes through Boldon Colliery on the way to Sunderland. So through travel to North Shields and the Royal Quays will be new to people living between Boldon and South Shields; it is not an established link as you seem to imply.

(29 Nov 2017, 6:43 pm)Ex-conductor wrote I’m afraid that my point is being missed here. I am concentrating on travel from North Shields, and my main point is that it is more likely that passengers will want to travel from there to Sunderland, rather than to any of the points offered beyond Jarrow. Currently service 9 goes through Boldon Colliery on the way to Sunderland. So through travel to North Shields and the Royal Quays will be new to people living between Boldon and South Shields; it is not an established link as you seem to imply.

(29 Nov 2017, 7:47 pm)ifm001 wrote Nope. You quoted

"what on earth is the point in having a service from South Shields to North Shields"

I have given you an answer to this question.

Do you live on the route or even the vicinity of the South Tyneside area. If not please do not question why the folks of shields like to visit the other folks of Shields.

(29 Nov 2017, 10:38 pm)Ex-conductor wrote No, as implied in my previous post I don't live in South Tyneside. I live in North Shields, and I will continue to question why my home town is losing its direct link to Sunderland, which was first established 50 years ago when the Tyne road tunnel first opened. If you live in the area between Boldon and South Shields, you do not currently have a direct bus to North Shields. You either use a bus to Jarrow, then change to service 9, or use the ferry and a local bus within North Shields. If that's the case, you are defending a new direct bus link at the expense of an established link.

(30 Nov 2017, 8:13 am)ifm001 wrote And as I said, I answered your first question which was, Why on earth is there going to be a service from South Shields to North Shields.

You asked the question. I answered the question.

(01 Dec 2017, 7:28 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/739 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Shields, Market to Jarrow, Bus Station
Service number: 5
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jan 2018

PB0003954/736 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange to North Shields, Rudyerd Street
Service number: 9
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jan 2018

PB0003954/677 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Shields, Coronation Street to Lukes Lane, Morecombe Parade
Service number: 88 (88A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jan 2018

PB0003954/776 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland to Station Est, Murton via Grangetown, Ryhope, New Seaham
Service number: 61
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jan 2018

Wonder what the changes are to the 61?

(01 Dec 2017, 7:42 pm)deanmachine wrote I've heard rumours about interworking with the 9.

(01 Dec 2017, 7:49 pm)Michael wrote The 9 is getting Citaro's, nothing on the post from Go North East for the 61... i can't see it being 2 different buses on the route (Citaro and Scania).

(01 Dec 2017, 7:49 pm)Michael wrote The 9 is getting Citaro's, nothing on the post from Go North East for the 61... i can't see it being 2 different buses on the route (Citaro and Scania).

(03 Dec 2017, 10:18 am)Michael wrote I think the 10 reg Citaro's will go on the new 9 (Sunderland to Lukes Lanes via Jarrow and Hebburn) as 5336 is also at Deptford.

The new 9 should take around 72 or so minutes each way (144 in total)... so if it was:


Every 30 minutes full route, the PVR would be 5
Every 20 minutes full route, the PVR would be 8

I think the route will be every 20 minutes with 5336 as a spare for the 9


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5305-5309, 5325-27 for the 35, like now


5337/5338 extra spares at Deptford (for the X5, 9 and 35)

5323/24 to Riverside