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RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Dan - 09 May 2020
(09 May 2020, 6:25 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote Seen one of the Durham council park and ride buses running a service at Quebec earlier (the route number was 3 digits?)
Generally speaking the newer the bus, the more they don't like being parked up without being moved. All the adblue systems and such.
Of course, they'll be a bit more fuel efficient too, so during this crisis where these buses aren't required it makes sense to use them.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - JoshP - 11 May 2020
(09 May 2020, 6:25 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote Seen one of the Durham council park and ride buses running a service at Quebec earlier (the route number was 3 digits?)
One was in Darlington too recently but didn't catch the service number. I'm guessing it was service 16 as it was on Staindrop Road
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - peter - 11 May 2020
(11 May 2020, 10:30 pm)JoshP wrote One was in Darlington too recently but didn't catch the service number. I'm guessing it was service 16 as it was on Staindrop Road
They've been used on a number of the services operating out of Barnard Castle over the past couple weeks so could have been the 84 also
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 13 May 2020
(11 May 2020, 11:16 pm)peter wrote They've been used on a number of the services operating out of Barnard Castle over the past couple weeks so could have been the 84 alsoBeen all over the place including the likes of the 47, 84, 113.
Will have been 84 Josh saw it on as services 16 & 20 are currently suspended as a result of the pandemic.
Services 35A & S1 are running on reduced timetables with the 108/109 running to a Saturday timetable
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - peter - 18 Jul 2020
Does anybody happen to have an update fleet list for Scarlet Band? - From what I've been able to find from photos on Flickr they currently have the following vehicles:
Solo's:
PM04 MKP - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YN04 LWM - Scarlet Band Red/Silver
YJ54 BUV - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YJ54 UWN - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
MX54 KXR - Scarlet Band
YJ05 JWO - The Pink Bus
YJ05 JWN - The Pink Bus
NX55 FFR - Scarlet Band
NX55 FFS - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGG - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGH - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGM - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGL - Scarlet Band Pink
YJ55 YGO - Scarlet Band
MX56 NME - Scarlet Band
WK59 CWU - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWW - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWX - Scarlet Band Red/Cream
WK59 CWY - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWZ - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
E200's:
MX10 KNW - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNV - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNU - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXL - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXK - White
Versa's:
YJ57 XWK - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow
YJ57 XWV - Scarlet Band
YJ57 XWW - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKZ - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKY - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow
Solo SR's:
YJ64 DXM - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXO - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXP - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXR - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXS - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXU - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXV - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYF - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYG - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYH - Durham P&R
Other:
BX09 LHJ - Orange/Purple
YX10 GYF - Link2
YX10 GYE - Link2
Compared to the fleetest currently on the site (which is a couple years out of date) the following vehicles have left the fleet:
MX55 WCZ - Scarlet Band Green - Sold to the Eden
YJ06 YRE - Scarlet Band - Sold to Wilson’s Buses
YJ06 YRD - Scarlet Band - Sold to The Big Lemon
R712 KGK - White - Used at Buxton Raceway
YT51 EAY - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
X315 CBT - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
V931 VUB - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
However I have no idea if any of the following are still with the fleet as they have not been photographed recently:
R17 SCC - Scarlet Band White
Y429 DAB - Scarlet Band White
BU51 GHT - Scarlet Band Blue/White
DE52 OLM - White
FB53 GVD - White
BU53 AXC - Scarlet Band
In the time since the fleet list was last updated the following have also been acquired and have either left the fleet or have not been photographed recently (and thus perhaps withdrawn or have passed on):
VU52 UEF - Scarlet Band Blue - Sold
MP53 ZTW - Scarlet Band Cream/Black - Sold
YN53 YGY - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
YN04 LWZ - Scarlet Band - ?
NT05 NBM - Scarlet Band - ?
MX08 DFY - White - Sold to Weardale
SB10 BUS - White - Sold to Weardale
If anybody has any further information or corrections they would be much appreciated
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 07 Dec 2020
(18 Jul 2020, 7:13 pm)peter wrote Does anybody happen to have an update fleet list for Scarlet Band? - From what I've been able to find from photos on Flickr they currently have the following vehicles:
The best to my knowledge that I could suss out from Facebook (changes marked in bold) buses I have marked withdrawn may have since been Scrapped:
Solo's:
PM04 MKP - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YN04 LWM - Scarlet Band Red/Silver
YJ54 BUV - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YJ54 UWN - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
MX54 KXR - Scarlet Band
YJ05 JWO - The Pink Bus
YJ05 JWN - The Pink Bus
NX55 FFR - Scarlet Band
NX55 FFS - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGG - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGH - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGM - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGL - Scarlet Band Pink
YJ55 YGO - Scarlet Band
MX56 NME - Scarlet Band
WK59 CWU - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWW - Scarlet Band Red/Cream *engine blown*
WK59 CWX - Scarlet Band Red/Cream
WK59 CWY - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWZ - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
E200's:
MX10 KNW - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNV - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNU - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXL - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXK - White
Versa's:
YJ57 XWK - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow - Scrapped
YJ57 XWV - Scarlet Band
YJ57 XWW - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKZ - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKY - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow
Solo SR's:
YJ64 DXM - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXO - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXP - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXR - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXS - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXU - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXV - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYF - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYG - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYH - Durham P&R
Other:
BX09 LHJ - Orange/Purple
YX10 GYF - Link2
YX10 GYE - Link2
VU52 UEF - Scarlet Band Blue - Sold
MP53 ZTW - Scarlet Band Cream/Black - Sold
YN53 YGY - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
YN04 LWZ - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
NT05 NBM - Scarlet Band - ?
MX08 DFY - White - Sold to Weardale now with Mulleys
SB10 BUS - White - Sold to Weardale
MX55WCZ - Green / Our Bus - Sold to The Eden and since sold to Rural Link Ltd (PCL Travel)
They currently have three Solo SRs on loan in the form of YJ62FAM, YD63UZS & YD63UZU.
It's proving difficult keeping up with them atm
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - busmanT - 15 Dec 2020
(07 Dec 2020, 11:05 pm)Jimmi wrote The best to my knowledge that I could suss out from Facebook (changes marked in bold) buses I have marked withdrawn may have since been Scrapped:Thanks, an interesting list. I'm almost 100% certain that there is a 15 year age limit for buses used on Durham County Council local bus contracts, so some further vehicle changes needed very soon.
Solo's:
PM04 MKP - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YN04 LWM - Scarlet Band Red/Silver
YJ54 BUV - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YJ54 UWN - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
MX54 KXR - Scarlet Band
YJ05 JWO - The Pink Bus
YJ05 JWN - The Pink Bus
NX55 FFR - Scarlet Band
NX55 FFS - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGG - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGH - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGM - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGL - Scarlet Band Pink
YJ55 YGO - Scarlet Band
MX56 NME - Scarlet Band
WK59 CWU - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWW - Scarlet Band Red/Cream *engine blown*
WK59 CWX - Scarlet Band Red/Cream
WK59 CWY - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWZ - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
E200's:
MX10 KNW - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNV - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNU - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXL - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXK - White
Versa's:
YJ57 XWK - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow - Scrapped
YJ57 XWV - Scarlet Band
YJ57 XWW - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKZ - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKY - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow
Solo SR's:
YJ64 DXM - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXO - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXP - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXR - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXS - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXU - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXV - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYF - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYG - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYH - Durham P&R
Other:
BX09 LHJ - Orange/Purple
YX10 GYF - Link2
YX10 GYE - Link2
VU52 UEF - Scarlet Band Blue - Sold
MP53 ZTW - Scarlet Band Cream/Black - Sold
YN53 YGY - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
YN04 LWZ - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
NT05 NBM - Scarlet Band - ?
MX08 DFY - White - Sold to Weardale now with Mulleys
SB10 BUS - White - Sold to Weardale
MX55WCZ - Green / Our Bus - Sold to The Eden and since sold to Rural Link Ltd (PCL Travel)
They currently have three Solo SRs on loan in the form of YJ62FAM, YD63UZS & YD63UZU.
It's proving difficult keeping up with them atm
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - cainebj - 16 Dec 2020
(07 Dec 2020, 11:05 pm)Jimmi wrote VU52 UEF - Scarlet Band Blue - Sold
MP53 ZTW - Scarlet Band Cream/Black - Sold
YN53 YGY - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
YN04 LWZ - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
NT05 NBM - Scarlet Band - ?
MX08 DFY - White - Sold to Weardale now with Mulleys
SB10 BUS - White - Sold to Weardale
MX55WCZ - Green / Our Bus - Sold to The Eden and since sold to Rural Link Ltd (PCL Travel)
NT05 NBM is still in service, quite frequently on the Barnard Castle area services.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Jimbo - 16 Dec 2020
(07 Dec 2020, 11:05 pm)Jimmi wrote The best to my knowledge that I could suss out from Facebook (changes marked in bold) buses I have marked withdrawn may have since been Scrapped:
Solo's:
PM04 MKP - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YN04 LWM - Scarlet Band Red/Silver
YJ54 BUV - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YJ54 UWN - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
MX54 KXR - Scarlet Band
YJ05 JWO - The Pink Bus
YJ05 JWN - The Pink Bus
NX55 FFR - Scarlet Band - Out of service
NX55 FFS - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGG - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGH - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
YJ55 YGM - Scarlet Band
YJ55 YGL - Scarlet Band Pink
YJ55 YGO - Scarlet Band
MX56 NME - Scarlet Band
WK59 CWU - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWW - Scarlet Band Red/Cream *engine blown*
WK59 CWX - Scarlet Band Red/Cream
WK59 CWY - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
WK59 CWZ - Scarlet Band Red/Yellow
E200's:
MX10 KNW - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNV - Scarlet Band
MX10 KNU - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXL - Scarlet Band
MX10 DXK - White
Versa's:
YJ57 XWK - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow - Scrapped
YJ57 XWV - Scarlet Band
YJ57 XWW - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKZ - Scarlet Band Blue
YJ08 PKY - Scarlet Band Blue/Yellow
Solo SR's:
YJ64 DXM - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXO - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXP - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXR - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXS - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXU - Durham P&R
YJ64 DXV - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYF - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYG - Durham P&R
YJ64 DYH - Durham P&R
Other:
BX09 LHJ - Orange/Purple
YX10 GYF - Link2
YX10 GYE - Link2
VU52 UEF - Scarlet Band Blue - Sold
MP53 ZTW - Scarlet Band Cream/Black - Sold
YN53 YGY - Scarlet Band - Scrapped
YN04 LWZ - Scarlet Band - Withdrawn
NT05 NBM - Scarlet Band - ?
MX08 DFY - White - Sold to Weardale now with Mulleys
SB10 BUS - White - Sold to Weardale
MX55WCZ - Green / Our Bus - Sold to The Eden and since sold to Rural Link Ltd (PCL Travel)
They currently have three Solo SRs on loan in the form of YJ62FAM, YD63UZS & YD63UZU.
It's proving difficult keeping up with them atm
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - GuyParkRoyal - 08 Feb 2021
Public Inquiry (81339) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS, on 18
January 2021 commenced at 10:00 (Previous Publication(2456) Previous hearing on 01 April 2020
was adjourned.
PB1111930 SN
SCARLET BAND BUS & COACH LTD
Director(s): GRAEME TORRANCE
WELFARE GARAGE, STATION ROAD, WEST CORNFORTH, FERRYHILL, DL17 9LA
S17 - Licence is curtailed from 41 vehicles to 33 vehicles with immediate effect and indefinitely.
Formal warning recorded.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Dan - 08 Feb 2021
(08 Feb 2021, 11:04 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote Public Inquiry (81339) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS, on 18
January 2021 commenced at 10:00 (Previous Publication(2456) Previous hearing on 01 April 2020
was adjourned.
PB1111930 SN
SCARLET BAND BUS & COACH LTD
Director(s): GRAEME TORRANCE
WELFARE GARAGE, STATION ROAD, WEST CORNFORTH, FERRYHILL, DL17 9LA
S17 - Licence is curtailed from 41 vehicles to 33 vehicles with immediate effect and indefinitely.
Formal warning recorded.
Interesting. Does anyone know their PVR? It's difficult to work out how many of their vehicles they still use!
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 08 Feb 2021
(08 Feb 2021, 12:56 pm)Dan wrote Interesting. Does anyone know their PVR? It's difficult to work out how many of their vehicles they still use!Don't know exact numbers but it's less than 33, think the full service PVR is around 28 although difficult to count how many buses they have at present as fleet has been all over the place of late.
They have recently advertised the coaches and the four remaining ex Transdev Versas with them looking to replace the Versas with more Cummins engined Solos.
A newbie to the fleet is M1020 Solo YJ57XXE
Scarlet Band Motors - Dan - 25 Feb 2021
Solo YJ55YGO has been sold for scrap to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade.
Photo courtesy of Peter Matthew Greensmith, Busesnortheast Facebook group.
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RE: Scarlet Band Motors - cainebj - 13 Mar 2021
A recent addition is 7.1m Solo YJ09 EZG, formerly with The Eden.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - davidt128 - 19 Apr 2021
Service 16 resumed operating last Monday, 12th April, to coincide with Lockdown Easing stage 2. A variety of buses have been used, the latest being YJ64 DYH on Saturday and again today. No sign yet of "Pinky" (aka YJ55 YGL).
davidt128
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - davidt128 - 20 Apr 2021
Today's Darlington 16 is MX10 KNV. Seen on this route earlier this month, so nothing new today.
Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 19 May 2021
New in is Optare Solo R55LOT: https://flic.kr/p/2kZAeez
Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 04 Jul 2021
Service 16 in Darlington has a revised timetable from tomorrow, journeys are retimed to run around half an hour later to give a better spread in times with Arriva's service 3, there is a slight reduction in journeys however.
Timetable: https://connectteesvalley.com/data/timetables/16_SB_050721.pdf
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - 123456 - 24 Jan 2022
Have the former transdev versas left the fleet now?
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 24 Jan 2022
(24 Jan 2022, 4:54 pm)123456 wrote Have the former transdev versas left the fleet now?Only YJ57XWV remains (the only one to gain fleet livery)
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - 123456 - 24 Jan 2022
Surprised they didn't keep them all. Perhaps they found the solos better suited for the work they have. Thought the versas might have replaced the enviro 200s being non standard in the fleet. I know they are newer but they are shabby and tired. They have been good workhorses though.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 24 Jan 2022
(24 Jan 2022, 5:57 pm)123456 wrote Surprised they didn't keep them all. Perhaps they found the solos better suited for the work they have. Thought the versas might have replaced the enviro 200s being non standard in the fleet. I know they are newer but they are shabby and tired. They have been good workhorses though.Versas were purchased because the council supposedly wanted bigger buses on service 58, when that was withdrawn there wasn't really anywhere for them to suitably be allocated to and nothing that needed the extra capacity apart from the 108/109.
Scarlet Band Motors - Dan - 22 Feb 2022
Mark Dolan has reported on the busesnortheast Facebook group that MX54 KXR & NX55 FFS have been sent for scrap today.
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RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Markyboy2105112 - 26 Feb 2022
The latest vehicles to leave the fleet for scrap on Friday 25th February are YJ55 YGG, one of the original Solos acquired for Durham Park & Ride, and NT05 NBM.
Scarlet Band Motors - Jimmi - 07 Oct 2022
Scarlet Band to operate to reduced timetables from Monday 10th October.
111/112/115
These will be reduced to operate every two hours from Monday.
108/109
The Willington end journeys will alternate between Oakenshaw and Wear Valley View Estate. Journeys currently serve both* Oakenshaw and Wear Valley View but this has proved unsustainable with increasing passenger numbers and road traffic. The whole evening service after the 1735 departure from Bishop Auckland is regrettably suspended due to the driver situation.
*was unaware they were even doing this, timetables online suggests they were doing what they're supposedly doing from next week although had noticed late running whilst I've been in Bishop Auckland.
Scarlet Band Motors - Dan - 11 Oct 2022
Already mentioned on another thread, but Scarlet Band will cease operations from the end of this month.
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RE: Scarlet Band Motors - col87 - 11 Oct 2022
It’s a shame as that’s another independent gone then and a well established one at that. The question is what gone wrong at the company because 10 year ago it seemed a well run company but the last 3 or so years it seems to have been mismanaged. I hope all staff get jobs elsewhere then.
As for the remaining contract services they have I can see Weardale possibly picking up a few round the Bishop Auckland, Sedgefield areas. As for the remaining work then that could be interesting.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - Unber43 - 11 Oct 2022
(11 Oct 2022, 9:47 am)col87 wrote It’s a shame as that’s another independent gone then and a well established one at that. The question is what gone wrong at the company because 10 year ago it seemed a well run company but the last 3 or so years it seems to have been mismanaged. I hope all staff get jobs elsewhere then.I think the staff who are bus drivers won't have any trouble getting a job.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - MurdnunoC - 11 Oct 2022
(11 Oct 2022, 4:44 pm)Unber43 wrote I think the staff who are bus drivers won't have any trouble getting a job.
If they indeed want to stay in the industry.
Lots of other jobs out there where the pay is similar and the work less strenuous, not to mention a better work/life balance.
RE: Scarlet Band Motors - 123456 - 11 Oct 2022
Had expected this to happen following rumours they had lost the park and ride contract.
As a passenger who has to endure their poor operation in the park and ride contract, it's good they have lost it. There's been buses missing/ not turning up since before Brexit and covid.
As for his letter blaming drivers who have left it must have been for a good reason as theirs obviously 2 sides to that.
The fleet has gone to the dogs in the last 5 years. No care for presentation or even a single livery. It lists drivers coming up to retirement as a reason. A cynical person would say it's convenient the company is folding before the drivers get their full amount. I am
Sure the owner will have a nice retirement at his place in Spain whilst his drivers have to funds other ways of keeping their families.