(12 Aug 2022, 7:12 pm)Unber43 wrote 65 is really intriguing, as is the 39/A/B & 8/8A.

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It could possible be extra services for schools.

(12 Aug 2022, 7:12 pm)Unber43 wrote 65 is really intriguing, as is the 39/A/B & 8/8A.

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It could possible be extra services for schools.

(12 Aug 2022, 7:27 pm)Michael wrote Probs time changes due to the school services.

(12 Aug 2022, 8:26 pm)User2613 wrote With the 8/8A I imagine it'll be more starting/ finishing in Washington rather than Chester to cut the dead mileage.

(11 Aug 2022, 11:56 pm)Unber43 wrote Thats just bad for customers, will there be any ticket acceptance. 

Another Loss for customers.

(12 Aug 2022, 9:31 pm)minibus1474 wrote Why should there be ticket acceptance.  GNE don't want 67/69, they binned it, then begged Nexus to bail them out.  Seems like they only kept 67/69 for 6 weeks so they had work for scholars drivers during holidays. If the school bus drivers had no work for 6 weeks, they may have jumped ship, leaving GNE short for all the NEW scholars work in September.

I believe that GCT have the whole 67/69 service, 4 buses Mon-Sat daytimes and 3 on Evening and Sunday.

(12 Aug 2022, 9:34 pm)V514DFT wrote I'd love to see GCT lose the 335

(12 Aug 2022, 9:37 am)Adrian wrote Surely the bigger issue is that you've got four services, for effectively one route, now being served by three operators? 

Mon-Sat Daytime:
82 Barmston Court to Gateshead - JH Coaches
82A Barmston Court to Birtley - GCT

Mon-Sun Evening: 
83 Waterview Park to Galleries - GNE
81 Galleries to Gateshead - GNE

What happened to making public transport easier?

(12 Aug 2022, 9:31 pm)minibus1474 wrote Why should there be ticket acceptance.  GNE don't want 67/69, they binned it, then begged Nexus to bail them out.  Seems like they only kept 67/69 for 6 weeks so they had work for scholars drivers during holidays. If the school bus drivers had no work for 6 weeks, they may have jumped ship, leaving GNE short for all the NEW scholars work in September.

I believe that GCT have the whole 67/69 service, 4 buses Mon-Sat daytimes and 3 on Evening and Sunday.

(12 Aug 2022, 9:37 am)Adrian wrote Surely the bigger issue is that you've got four services, for effectively one route, now being served by three operators? 

Mon-Sat Daytime:
82 Barmston Court to Gateshead - JH Coaches
82A Barmston Court to Birtley - GCT

Mon-Sun Evening: 
83 Waterview Park to Galleries - GNE
81 Galleries to Gateshead - GNE

What happened to making public transport easier?

(12 Aug 2022, 10:58 pm)streetdeckfan wrote It's a shame we still don't have a multi-operator ticket in County Durham. Sure, we have the "Network One All Zones Plus", but that's just a waste of time.
The fact that it's barely mentioned on the Network One website other than on the bottom of the Anytime Ticket page just shows how much of an afterthought it was. They haven't even bothered to update the map to show it exists!

(12 Aug 2022, 11:19 pm)Drifter60 wrote Precisely this. Said it for a long time, the lack of any sort of cross operator ticket in County Durham is a real public transport barrier, routes maybe another key factor but ticketing is up there, 100%. And it’s hard to hear anyone in Tyne and Wear complain when they have network one - with £4 day tickets and £20 weekly tickets is it? When the alternative across the border into Durham is you’re potentially having to buy two day tickets at probably a decent bit over a tenner all told, if you need to get from an Arriva area to a GNE area. Or get the NE Explorer which is what £11 these days but covers Berwick to Guisbrough when all you needed to do was Shadforth to Seaham. Just ludicrous.

(11 Aug 2022, 8:28 pm)Aaron21 wrote The section between Hadrian Park & Howdon was cut in March 2020. So why after 2 years have they decided to put it back is anyone's guess

Plus they cut the 41 back in March from Howdon due to low passenger numbers

(11 Aug 2022, 9:54 pm)Washingtonian wrote I agree. Does anyone know why the 82A could be getting contracted to another operator? Seems silly to be changing it already when they've barely started it.

(12 Aug 2022, 9:31 pm)minibus1474 wrote Why should there be ticket acceptance.  GNE don't want 67/69, they binned it, then begged Nexus to bail them out.  Seems like they only kept 67/69 for 6 weeks so they had work for scholars drivers during holidays. If the school bus drivers had no work for 6 weeks, they may have jumped ship, leaving GNE short for all the NEW scholars work in September.

I believe that GCT have the whole 67/69 service, 4 buses Mon-Sat daytimes and 3 on Evening and Sunday.

(13 Aug 2022, 5:00 pm)Washingtonian wrote Not sure what thread to put this on but I have a genuine question. Why are GNE running some of the Nexus contracted services such as the 25/29/81/83 etc if they have major driver shortages. Why don't they leave all the contacted work to local independent operators and concentrate on putting the drivers on their commercial services. Surely this would make more sense.

(13 Aug 2022, 5:00 pm)Washingtonian wrote Not sure what thread to put this on but I have a genuine question. Why are GNE running some of the Nexus contracted services such as the 25/29/81/83 etc if they have major driver shortages. Why don't they leave all the contacted work to local independent operators and concentrate on putting the drivers on their commercial services. Surely this would make more sense.

(13 Aug 2022, 6:36 pm)busmanT wrote I assume that GNE submitted the cheapest price for the contracts - the independent operators often don't tender for contracts that involve evening/Sunday work.

(13 Aug 2022, 7:36 pm)Adrian wrote Its guaranteed income for any operator. With most Nexus contracts, they're paid the same whether there's 1 person on the bus or 50.

They don't get that from commercial work and financial performance is obviously on how many people they get through the door.

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(14 Aug 2022, 9:27 am)L469 YVK wrote Looks like some timetables are starting to appear for 03/09

Looks like some minor timetable changes for the 309/310/311. Very disappointed that GNE still think it's acceptable to keep workers in the Cobalt heading towards Whitley Bay & Blyth, and passengers from Newcastle living in High Farm, Hadrian Park who don't have an 'alternative' as such waiting almost an hour for a bus.

It wouldn't need much more resource (the 4th vehicle would only be on the road for an extra 30 mins Mon-Sat) to run them both at sensible times like pre-January 2020!

(14 Aug 2022, 11:16 am)Unber43 wrote Where did u find them?

(14 Aug 2022, 8:42 pm)L469 YVK wrote Here's a serious question? Have GNE actually considered evening Cobalt shift patterns or have they just assumed  'no demand' towards Whitley Bay and Blyth so an evening PVR of 3x on the 309/310 can be justified making passengers wait 50+ minutes for a service!

No disrespect, but it's a disgrace that GNE can't keep a bus on the road for the sake of an extra 25-30 minutes to satisfy penny pinching yet are happy to repaint into every colour going!

The founding route (second major link to Cobalt after the R19) has effectively been stripped back worse to the 2013-2016 era when NCC had to step in to save the early morning journeys!

So now effectively if you work in Cobalt and live in Blyth or live in Hadrian Park or High Farm and want to get home from Newcastle yet have to wait an hour? It's almost like a big screw you we don't care from GNE (and that's me being polite!)!

Don't know about Hadrian Park & High Farm but lets hope some of the marketing team at Doxford Park can exploit the gap with the 54/308!

(14 Aug 2022, 8:55 pm)Malarkey wrote Perfectly valid point for those that finish at 8pm, they have a 50 Minute wait to head home towards Whitley Bay/Blyth. To my knowledge in the 3 years I worked for EE the service on an evening has always been poor unless your heading in the opposite direction towards Newcastle.

All Go North East need to do is retime the evening departures by switching around the 309/310 departures from Newcastle and i'd also say on an evening after 7pm the 310 should serve Cobalt Business Park in full to make it easier for those in North Shields to get home also.

(14 Aug 2022, 8:42 pm)L469 YVK wrote No disrespect, but it's a disgrace that GNE can't keep a bus on the road for the sake of an extra 25-30 minutes to satisfy penny pinching yet are happy to repaint into every colour going!

(14 Aug 2022, 9:32 pm)Adrian wrote Where does the extra bus or driver come from? There's often a bigger picture, and could be that there's simply not enough time in the schedule to keep a driver on for that extra time every day. And when that is the case, you end up needing an extra driver, who you then need to find something for them to do for the other 8 hours or whatever of the shift...

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(14 Aug 2022, 9:40 pm)MurdnunoC wrote But, but, but if you reallocate all the services that GNE operate across the North East, withdraw them all, build a new super-depot at Billy Mill which hosts GNE, ANE, SNE, GCT, ITV, BBC, and HSBC - all shifts will be covered and the Coast Road can have a bus service every f'n picosecond as that's what's required. The market is there, the people will come.