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RE: November 2023 changes - KingSlayerRBLX - 24 Oct 2023
(23 Oct 2023, 6:55 pm)RobinHood wrote Durham Bus Station is reopening on 12 November yes.
Never thought I'd see the day of it opening with the delays
RE: November 2023 changes - BusLoverMum - 24 Oct 2023
I think they were trying to get it done before Lumiere.
RE: November 2023 changes - Iamtheone8483748 - 24 Oct 2023
GNE have uploaded a map with what stands each service will use within Durham Bus Station: https://images-gonortheast.passenger-website.com/2023-10/Durham%20-%20Nov%202023_0.pdf
RE: November 2023 changes - BusLoverMum - 24 Oct 2023
The 61 and 62 might as well have stayed on North Road because they'll never get a look in on the guaranteed Arriva layover bay that is stand A.
RE: November 2023 changes - KingSlayerRBLX - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 6:39 pm)Iamtheone8483748 wrote GNE have uploaded a map with what stands each service will use within Durham Bus Station: https://images-gonortheast.passenger-website.com/2023-10/Durham%20-%20Nov%202023_0.pdf
Interesting its not similar to the old station.
RE: November 2023 changes - Jimmi - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 8:10 pm)BusLoverMum wrote The 61 and 62 might as well have stayed on North Road because they'll never get a look in on the guaranteed Arriva layover bay that is stand A.
I really don't understand the logic of them leaving from stand A, in an ideal world, the 62 at least would've left from the same stand as the 50 given they run the same routes up to the Arnison Centre (although think the 50 & 62 leave Durham around the same time) or leave from North Road with the 64.
40 having to go onto North Road when heading towards the Rail Station is questionable, too, given it has to double back on Millburngate.
RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 8:10 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Interesting its not similar to the old station.I was expecting it to be pretty much exactly the same.
Anyone got a stand layout for the old bus station?
RE: November 2023 changes - streetdeckfan - 24 Oct 2023
Wasn't the previous layout of Durham Bus Station famously awful?
RE: November 2023 changes - Storx - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 8:32 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Wasn't the previous layout of Durham Bus Station famously awful?
Unless I'm missing something, it's identical to old awful designed bus station.
RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 9:03 pm)Storx wrote Unless I'm missing something, it's identical to old awful designed bus station.Also leaving the bus station if your going left there are buses parked at the stands and there are buses coming down its going to be awfully tight.
Yeah I just looked on Google Maps not a single extra stand literally just the building changed, nothing has been changed road wise
RE: November 2023 changes - Storx - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 9:09 pm)Unber43 wrote Also leaving the bus station if your going left there are buses parked at the stands and there are buses coming down its going to be awfully tight.
Yeah I just looked on Google Maps not a single extra stand literally just the building changed, nothing has been changed road wise
Yeah it's a naff bus station, always has been but there's not really any space in Durham to do anything better tbh (the church is listed). It was also the cheapest option.
RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 24 Oct 2023
wasn't there another proposal for the bus station but someone called it an absolute disgrace or smth
RE: November 2023 changes - KingSlayerRBLX - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 8:24 pm)Unber43 wrote I was expecting it to be pretty much exactly the same.
Anyone got a stand layout for the old bus station?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham_bus_station
November 2023 changes - streetdeckfan - 24 Oct 2023
They should have just built the bus station at Sniperley then utilised the P&R buses to provide a shuttle into the centre.
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RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 24 Oct 2023
speaking of the P&R its halved in use since 2019
RE: November 2023 changes - Storx - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 9:23 pm)Unber43 wrote wasn't there another proposal for the bus station but someone called it an absolute disgrace or smth
Aye was going to be at the end of North Road instead, but if I remember it had no layover space at all.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/plans-new-8million-bus-station-11999000
RE: November 2023 changes - streetdeckfan - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 9:36 pm)Unber43 wrote speaking of the P&R its halved in use since 2019Probably because Durham is an absolute crock!
I can't be arsed with trekking up and down mountaints just to go to run of the mill shops.
Plus Durham seems to attract a particularly arrogant type of student that makes it all the more off-putting. Especially those from far away lands that don't understand the concept of queueing and just barge their way through.
And to top it off the Spoons on North Road closed so there's literally no reason to go now. The Walkergate one just isn't as good.
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RE: November 2023 changes - Storx - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 9:46 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Probably because Durham is an absolute crock!
I can't be arsed with trekking up and down mountaints just to go to run of the mill shops.
Plus Durham seems to attract a particularly arrogant type of student that makes it all the more off-putting. Especially those from far away lands that don't understand the concept of queueing and just barge their way through.
And to top it off the Spoons on North Road closed so there's literally no reason to go now. The Walkergate one just isn't as good.
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Doesn't help you can save the bus part of it and just go to Arnison and save time and there's ample parking in the centre with, I believe, free parking after 3pm now anyway so absolutely no point in wasting you're time using the P&R.
Other than workers, I don't understand why anyone would use it tbh.
RE: November 2023 changes - streetdeckfan - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 10:05 pm)Storx wrote Doesn't help you can save the bus part of it and just go to Arnison and save time and there's ample parking in the centre with, I believe, free parking after 3pm now anyway so absolutely no point in wasting you're time using the P&R.
Other than workers, I don't understand why anyone would use it tbh.
We used to use it all the time, but now we either pay to park up Crossgate since we're rarely there over half an hour, or just park for free down by the river after 2pm.
RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 24 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 11:25 pm)streetdeckfan wrote We used to use it all the time, but now we either pay to park up Crossgate since we're rarely there over half an hour, or just park for free down by the river after 2pm.We did too, however we wanted to go one sunday and the P&R doesn't run on a Sunday so we just parked in the ODEON carpark (or Wilkinsons (i think) is what it was called) and it was much cheaper so we always park down and just walk.
RE: November 2023 changes - BusLoverMum - 25 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 9:31 pm)streetdeckfan wrote They should have just built the bus station at Sniperley then utilised the P&R buses to provide a shuttle into the centre.
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Convenient for people coming in from the East or from within the city itself.
The only real difference from the old layour is that the shops are gone and the passenger concourse is closer to North Road so there is a bit more space for buses to manoeuvre.
And hopefully you can walk around without tripping over buckets.
RE: November 2023 changes - streetdeckfan - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 6:25 am)BusLoverMum wrote Convenient for people coming in from the East or from within the city itself.
The only real difference from the old layour is that the shops are gone and the passenger concourse is closer to North Road so there is a bit more space for buses to manoeuvre.
And hopefully you can walk around without tripping over buckets.
Have they announced what the toilets will be like?
Presumably they won't be free, and now that Spoons is closed opposite you'll have no choice but to pay up. I haven't tried the new pub out that's replaced it yet, so not sure what they're like for people popping in and out just to use them.
RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan wrote Have they announced what the toilets will be like?Yeah on one of there plans they literally labled it "pay station" or something like that.
Presumably they won't be free, and now that Spoons is closed opposite you'll have no choice but to pay up. I haven't tried the new pub out that's replaced it yet, so not sure what they're like for people popping in and out just to use them.
The ones at Middlesbrough are contactless, hopefully theses one will be too, no doubt so they can just increase the price, Doubt it'll be 20p
RE: November 2023 changes - Adrian - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan wrote Have they announced what the toilets will be like?
Presumably they won't be free, and now that Spoons is closed opposite you'll have no choice but to pay up. I haven't tried the new pub out that's replaced it yet, so not sure what they're like for people popping in and out just to use them.
Plan was for a double Male WC and double Female WC, both behind pay gates. In addition, there'd be an accessible toilet and parent & child (baby changing) toilet, but presumably these will be controlled by keys. There were also plans for a changing places toilet.
Oh, and there's staff toilets upstairs.
RE: November 2023 changes - Unber43 - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 10:10 am)streetdeckfan wrote Have they announced what the toilets will be like?Here's the plan
Presumably they won't be free, and now that Spoons is closed opposite you'll have no choice but to pay up. I haven't tried the new pub out that's replaced it yet, so not sure what they're like for people popping in and out just to use them.
RE: November 2023 changes - busmanT - 25 Oct 2023
(24 Oct 2023, 8:10 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Interesting its not similar to the old station.
Why would it be similar to the old one?
Lots of services have revised timetables since then, so won’t fit on the same stands as they did.
RE: November 2023 changes - gc802002 - 25 Oct 2023
If the 20 is no longer running between Langley Park and Durham, will there be a replacement?
RE: November 2023 changes - deanmachine - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 2:14 pm)gc802002 wrote If the 20 is no longer running between Langley Park and Durham, will there be a replacement?
Where did you get that from? There's not much changing with the 20, just a few extra 20As running.
RE: November 2023 changes - Retro Nero - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 2:44 pm)deanmachine wrote Where did you get that from? There's not much changing with the 20, just a few extra 20As running.
Yes , still running to Langley Park, and as mentioned 20A will have a few more trips on an evening .
RE: November 2023 changes - gc802002 - 25 Oct 2023
(25 Oct 2023, 2:44 pm)deanmachine wrote Where did you get that from? There's not much changing with the 20, just a few extra 20As running.
Ah , Apologies, I saw on Page one that the 20 was showing as Durham to Sunderland.... Guess registration has always said that... Apologies again.