(15 Aug 2021, 12:44 pm)Dan wrote It's been getting put on all buses over the past few days.

(15 Aug 2021, 12:44 pm)Dan wrote It's been getting put on all buses over the past few days.

(15 Aug 2021, 12:44 pm)Dan wrote It's been getting put on all buses over the past few days.

(15 Aug 2021, 5:09 pm)Keeiajs wrote Dan said something on Twitter, but I am not sure what buses are going on the X22 and I am confused. https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1426882479043059712?s=20

(15 Aug 2021, 5:10 pm)streetdeckfan wrote The X22 is getting some refurbed deckers, which ones exactly is still TBA

(15 Aug 2021, 12:43 am)omnicity4659 wrote Almost. Red with a sand-coloured rear is what I've seen. Also named "Red Kite Ranger".

(15 Aug 2021, 7:25 pm)Drifter60 wrote Another ranger… isn’t the 8/78 becoming “Country Ranger”? I wonder if there’ll be more rangers across Derwentside, similar to SunderlandDistrict.

(15 Aug 2021, 7:25 pm)Drifter60 wrote Another ranger… isn’t the 8/78 becoming “Country Ranger”? I wonder if there’ll be more rangers across Derwentside, similar to SunderlandDistrict.

(16 Aug 2021, 2:26 pm)ne14ne1 wrote “Go North East urged to ‘seriously reconsider’ wholesale changes to timetable from next month”:  

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/go-north-east-timetable-changes-21313068


https://twitter.com/platformtwptug/status/1427229015199387648?s=21

(16 Aug 2021, 3:24 pm)Train8261 wrote Another example of what happens when bus services are run for profit, not public good. Thousands of people will be impacted by these changes and have absolutely no say in them. Bus services should be geared around social benefits, not whether or not there is sufficient 'demand'.

In what part of the changes are major impacted that bad he's needed to write a letter (more than likely an email as I don't think the chronicle know the word email)

(16 Aug 2021, 3:49 pm)Keeiajs wrote But the thing is it comes down to money, and honestly there hasn't been any really major changes except 62/65/208 really.

(16 Aug 2021, 4:31 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Major for whom?

An enthusiast may look at these changes and come to the conclusion that they are minor based upon things such as branding, route changes, or PVR. However, for someone who may live in Catchgate and work at the Metrocentre, to use an example, to find out their daily commute has changed might represent a significant and major change.

While these changes don't directly affect me, I'm also not dismissive about how these changes might affect others. I think some enthusiasts would do well to bear that in mind before jumping to the defence of their 'favourite bus company' or whatever.

(16 Aug 2021, 4:52 pm)Keeiajs wrote But they haven't made any really drastic service changes. However if they can't make money and are losing money on routes its not GNE's fault.

(16 Aug 2021, 4:58 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Point proven. Cheers.

(16 Aug 2021, 4:31 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Major for whom?

An enthusiast may look at these changes and come to the conclusion that they are minor based upon things such as branding, route changes, or PVR. However, for someone who may live in Catchgate and work at the Metrocentre, to use an example, to find out their daily commute has changed might represent a significant and major change.

While these changes don't directly affect me, I'm also not dismissive about how these changes might affect others. I think some enthusiasts would do well to bear that in mind before jumping to the defence of their 'favourite bus company' or whatever.

(16 Aug 2021, 3:24 pm)Train8261 wrote Another example of what happens when bus services are run for profit, not public good. Thousands of people will be impacted by these changes and have absolutely no say in them. Bus services should be geared around social benefits, not whether or not there is sufficient 'demand'.

In what part of the changes are major impacted that bad he's needed to write a letter (more than likely an email as I don't think the chronicle know the word email)

(16 Aug 2021, 3:24 pm)Train8261 wrote Another example of what happens when bus services are run for profit, not public good. Thousands of people will be impacted by these changes and have absolutely no say in them. Bus services should be geared around social benefits, not whether or not there is sufficient 'demand'.

In what part of the changes are major impacted that bad he's needed to write a letter (more than likely an email as I don't think the chronicle know the word email)

(16 Aug 2021, 5:10 pm)Andreos1 wrote But there's repaints, new allocations and stuff!
Surely that's more of a priority and exciting than people being unable to get to work any more or seeing councils fill up the corporate begging bowl?

(16 Aug 2021, 5:10 pm)Andreos1 wrote But there's repaints, new allocations and stuff!
Surely that's more of a priority and exciting than people being unable to get to work any more or seeing councils fill up the corporate begging bowl?

(16 Aug 2021, 6:11 pm)L469 YVK wrote Well it's surely more exciting than getting to the point of being unable to sustainably & reliably deliver a service to customers even on the major trunk routes because of an aging fleet.

Blyth depot's youngest decker will be 10 year old come December / January not forgetting that they're a lightweight vehicle type. God knows what's happening at Jesmond and at Ashington, the Alnwick/Berwick 'X' routes are in need of an upgrade.

How are Arriva going to do achieve the above? Only way they can (unless they just stick a plaster over the issue with ex-London cascades by large) will be to cut and streamline their network.

(16 Aug 2021, 6:24 pm)RobinHood wrote Could of sworn this was a GNE thread...

(16 Aug 2021, 6:11 pm)L469 YVK wrote Well it's surely more exciting than getting to the point of being unable to sustainably & reliably deliver a service to customers even on the major trunk routes because of an aging fleet.

Blyth depot's youngest decker will be 10 year old come December / January not forgetting that they're a lightweight vehicle type. God knows what's happening at Jesmond and at Ashington, the Alnwick/Berwick 'X' routes are in need of an upgrade.

How are Arriva going to do achieve the above? Only way they can (unless they just stick a plaster over the issue with ex-London cascades by large) will be to cut and streamline their network.

(16 Aug 2021, 6:50 pm)Storx wrote You do realise investments and cutting services aren't connected. 

The fact Arriva made a profit before the pandemic puts it in a much better place than GNE. If Arriva bought new buses then the cost of them would be offset from the benefits to customers and potential growth. 

From an investors point of view GNE is by far the weakest out the three as there's no ability to grow the business and it doesn't make a profit anyway hence the only thing they can do is cut cut cut. 

Funnily even known Arriva is so bad they've won the bus wars in both North Tyneside and Peterlee and they've done absolutely nothing, imagine if they actually done something what they could do.