(05 Jan 2018, 10:45 am)Swiny1 wrote Ive just had a very brief look at the timetables (to hungover) so will percy main be doing the short 5' s on a night?

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(05 Jan 2018, 12:37 pm)V514DFT wrote ive thought for a while now that GNE would merge the 28 since they seem to like their routes to be 2 days long atm probably the 34 too

(03 Jan 2018, 3:52 pm)Jimmi wrote Here's the info on service changs as I'm sure everyone wants to know them.

From 28 January 2018, there will be changes to a number of services. These changes are designed to improve reliability, and to better match where our services run with where people are travelling to.

Details of each of the changes are listed below, along with links to new timetables for each service.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 5
This service will be extended from Jarrow to North Shields via the Tyne Tunnel, replacing service 9 on this section of route.
Service 5 will no longer serve Morrisons in Jarrow.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will use stand B towards South Shields and stand D towards North Shields.
There will be minor changes to the timetable of journeys between Jarrow and South Shields as a consequence of this extended route.

Service 9
This service will continue to run up to every 20 minutes between Jarrow, The Boldons and Sunderland.
The section of route between Jarrow and North Shields will be replaced by service 5
From Jarrow, service 9 will now run to Lukes Lane Estate, via Argyle Street, Lyon Street, Hebburn Town Centre, Hartleyburn Estate and Monkton Lane Estate, replacing this section of services 88/88A.
From Sunderland, the service will be extended to Murton via New Seaham and Dalton Park, replacing service 61, and offering new cross-town connections.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will depart from Stand A towards Sunderland and Stand D towards Lukes Lane.
In Park Lane Interchange, the service will depart from Stand F towards Jarrow, and Stand C towards Murton.

Crusader 27 and new Crusader service 26
There will be more journeys to Newcastle, with buses between Newcastle and Jarrow now running up to every 10 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes, and every 15 minutes on Sunday daytimes. Journeys will continue to run every 30 minutes on evenings.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, journeys will run every 20 minutes as service 27 on the current route via Tyne Dock, and every 20 minutes as service 26 via Primrose, South Leam and South Tyneside Hospital, replacing this section of services 88 and 88A.
This offers new direct connections to Newcastle from areas such as York Avenue, Primrose and South Leam.
In Jarrow Bus Station, services 26 and 27 will use stand E towards Newcastle. Service 26 towards South Shields will use stand A, with service 27 towards South Shields using stand C.

Venture 30
A small number of early morning and early evening journeys are retimed.

See It Do It 35 and 36
There will be some changes to the times of some morning, early evening and Saturday journeys to improve reliability.
In Houghton-le-Spring, service 36 towards Chester-le-Street will now stop at stop number 31H05 instead of 31H04. Other stops in Houghton-le-Spring are unchanged.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 50
There will be minor changes to times to improve reliability.

Drifter 60
There will be minor changes to the times of a small number of journeys to improve reliability.

Black Cats 61
This service will be replaced by extended service 9.
The route of new service 9 will be the same as the current service 61, with buses running between Sunderland and Murton every 20 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes and every 30 minutes on evenings and Sundays.

Service 64
Due to low passenger numbers, the journey which departs Gateshead at 6.08pm on weekdays will no longer run.

Service 67
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability.

Service 69
The route of this service will be revised in Winlaton.
It will now run a one-way loop, running from Blaydon to Winlaton direct via Blaydon Bank, then returning from Winlaton to Blaydon on the current route via Parkhead Estate.
Anyone wishing to travel to Parkhead Estate will be able to stay on board the bus at Winlaton without the need to buy another ticket.
Evening and Sunday journeys will continue to run direct on Blaydon Bank in both directions.
There will be some minor changes to the timetable as a consequence of this revised route to improve reliability.

South Tyne 88 & 88A
We know services 88 and 88A have not been as reliable as they should be in recent months. We’ve been working hard to deliver a solution for this, and revised services in South Tyneside will not only improve reliability for all services involved, but also offer a number of new direct connections.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by new Crusader service 26.
Between Jarrow and Lukes Lane, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by service 9.
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Loop 93/94
The journey at 3.10pm from Gateshead on weekdays is retimed two minutes earlier.

Service 95
the journey at 5.46pm from Lobley Hill to Gateshead on weekdays will no longer run due to low passenger numbers.

New Service H1
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Metrocentre Mini M6, M7 & M8
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability, and offer more journeys in the afternoon from Metrocentre.
There will also be an extra journey on schooldays from Fellside Road (for Whickham School) to Burnopfield
The service will now observe all stops, including at Swalwell Monument and MetrOasis.

Wear Xpress X6 & X7
This service will now depart from Stand A in Sunderland Park Lane Interchange.
There are no other changes to this service.

ToonLink X30 & X31
Weekday journeys at 3.02pm and 3.17pm from Stanley are retimed two minutes earlier.

ToonLink X70 & X71
Weekday journey at 9.10am from Newcastle is retimed to 9am.

Tynedale Express X84 & X85
The are minor changes to the times of journeys to improve reliability.

(05 Jan 2018, 1:03 pm)JP6004 wrote Yes the 34 and 36 could be merged if required

(05 Jan 2018, 3:06 pm)Andreos1 wrote 28 and southern portion of the 34?
36 and northern portion of the 34?

Can't remember if GNE got the Chester Town services or not. There's defineately the option to curtail and merge if they did.

(05 Jan 2018, 3:13 pm)JP6004 wrote Yes would be better than just having a circular like at the moment

(05 Jan 2018, 4:58 pm)Andreos1 wrote The only issue I have with that sort of service, is obviously someone always loses out.
When they removed the circular element from the Birtley - Washington services, it left some passengers in the position of being able to get the bus home from the shops - even though they couldn't get the bus to the shops.

If the buses merged like we were discussing (I can definitely see advantages in doing so), it would ultimately leave some passengers in Chester in a similar position to those in Birtley. Someone may be able to take their kids to school on the bus, but not get them home.

(05 Jan 2018, 5:15 pm)JP6004 wrote The 34 still goes to chester regardless. So people would still be able to get there and back

(05 Jan 2018, 5:25 pm)Andreos1 wrote Aye they would, but possibly not school.

Say they were at Bullion Lane Primary school and lived in Waldridge Park. Bus down to school potentially. Canny walk home at the end of the day.

Whereas now, they can get a bus in both directions.

(29 Nov 2017, 7:23 pm)missedbus wrote No-one (except enthusiasts, perhaps!), would be likely to travel from North Shields to, say, Whiteleas Estate on the 5 (likely to be around an hour). It would be far quicker to take the ferry and a bus from South Shields (35-40 minutes). I feel this has only been done for operational convenience to ensure the cross-river link was still provided after the service changes with the diversion of the 9, and not primarily to introduce a new link. 

I've travelled to Boldon and Sunderland a few times on the 9 from North Shields. Quite often I was one of very few people on board the bus in the Tyne tunnel, most of whom alighted at Jarrow.

(06 Jan 2018, 9:41 am)L469 YVK wrote Speaking of the Devil, although somebody did mention North Tyneside the other day and although I thought that nothing could be merged, if GNE wanted to stop going tit for tat with Arriva and form their own niche market, they could do this. Now I'll spend some weeks creating some timing and allocation samples for the below and other routes but here's a sneek preview.

CoastCityLinks Service 58
Every 12 minutes
* Heworth - Leam Lane Estate - Felling Square - Deckham - Gateshead - Newcastle City Centre - Cradlewell - Coast Road - Battle Hill - Cobalt - Whitley Bay - Seaton Sluice - Blyth

Service 58X
* Same route and frequency as X39 interworking with 59/59A.

'59' Service 59
Every 20 minutes
* North Shields - Meadowell - West Chirton - Middle Engine Lane - Battle Hill - High Farm - Coast Road - Cradlewell - Newcastle Haymarket

'59' Service 59A
Every 20 minutes
* Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Coast Road - Cradlewell - Newcastle Haymarket

(06 Jan 2018, 1:28 pm)V514DFT wrote yes haha that was me that mentioned North Tyneside

(06 Jan 2018, 1:28 pm)V514DFT wrote yes haha that was me that mentioned North Tyneside

(06 Jan 2018, 10:25 pm)park5354 wrote From 28 January, Metrocentre Mini M6/M7/M8/836 are transferring to Riverside operation, and 516 is transferring to Deptford operation.

(06 Jan 2018, 10:25 pm)park5354 wrote From 28 January, Metrocentre Mini M6/M7/M8/836 are transferring to Riverside operation, and 516 is transferring to Deptford operation.

(06 Jan 2018, 10:38 pm)S830OFT wrote By anychance will the 516 interwork with the new H1 in anyway?

(06 Jan 2018, 10:39 pm)S813 FVK wrote At least the first 704 (18:41 ex-Stanley) currently runs off the Minis. Is this transferring over too? Looking at the timetable it doesn’t look like it will be, but thought i’d ask anyway.

(06 Jan 2018, 10:25 pm)park5354 wrote From 28 January, Metrocentre Mini M6/M7/M8/836 are transferring to Riverside operation, and 516 is transferring to Deptford operation.

(06 Jan 2018, 10:38 pm)S830OFT wrote By anychance will the 516 interwork with the new H1 in anyway?

(07 Jan 2018, 7:22 am)Dan wrote No - an L94 is to be allocated to the H1.

(07 Jan 2018, 2:39 pm)MrBoyt wrote The world's emptiest Scania, I'd imagine

(06 Jan 2018, 1:47 pm)Northern4555 wrote think GNE get paid from nexus to keep tunnel link,so as long as jarrow to North Shields link maintained ,your right it's just operational convenience,rather than passengernew links etc

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what about an extension on 19 from North Shields via fish quay ,royal quays to jarrow.this may open new destinations north of the Tyne

(07 Jan 2018, 2:39 pm)MrBoyt wrote The world's emptiest Scania, I'd imagine

(07 Jan 2018, 2:52 pm)S830OFT wrote Just go on the 64/95 for that

(07 Jan 2018, 2:54 pm)MrBoyt wrote It might have some competition now!

Out of interest (since I have to start driving them soon), how busy do the 29, 67 and 69 get generally?

(07 Jan 2018, 3:26 pm)S830OFT wrote Out of observation they are quite a reserve of services, for example service 29 can often gain several passengers from the 53/54 if it turns up first, the 67/69 has its regulars but can often pick up passengers that would often use the likes of the Q1/Q2 and 93/94.

(07 Jan 2018, 2:53 pm)V514DFT wrote what i dont understand is why the 9 (soon to be 5) is still missing out East Howdon,wouldnt take that long to add in the whole of 4 stops (2 Jarrow/ S.Shields bound and 2 bound for North Shields),i would use the 2 bus stops that the 11 uses bound for Wallsend those could also serve the 5 for Jarrow and South Shields and the other 2 can serve the 5 for North Shields so all it has to do is come straight out of the Tunnel and in to East Howdon

(07 Jan 2018, 3:52 pm)cbma06 wrote It’s been awhile since I’ve been through Gateshead area, are 29/67/69/95 secured services?


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(07 Jan 2018, 2:53 pm)V514DFT wrote what i dont understand is why the 9 (soon to be 5) is still missing out East Howdon,wouldnt take that long to add in the whole of 4 stops (2 Jarrow/ S.Shields bound and 2 bound for North Shields),i would use the 2 bus stops that the 11 uses bound for Wallsend those could also serve the 5 for Jarrow and South Shields and the other 2 can serve the 5 for North Shields so all it has to do is come straight out of the Tunnel and in to East Howdon

(07 Jan 2018, 7:08 pm)Northern4555 wrote I tried getting the 9 to actually go into royal quays a few years back, without any success. its ironic it says on bus 'royal quays' but you have to get off and cross a busy dual carriageway,which I would be reluctant to let my children go to wet n wild on the 9 because of the roads around there,so getting GNE to send it thru east howdon will be be met with same not interested response.

(07 Jan 2018, 7:18 pm)S813 FVK wrote There is no way that the car park can be judged suitable for a bus in its current state.