(23 Sep 2020, 9:48 am)Andreos1 wrote From experience, the Eastern section of the route is. Haven't been beyond Durham on the western portion. 
To be honest, it surprised me when the frequency and capacity was reduced from the days of the purple streetlites.

3942 is one of the vehicles allocated to the X20 today.

(23 Sep 2020, 10:56 am)big mac wrote Although the frequency from Durham to Langley Park has doubled since the X20 replaced the 14.  Maybe they think a 30 frequency with Optare Solo buses on this section is enough, but not sure about Durham to Sunderland.

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(23 Sep 2020, 1:27 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Wasnt the 14 allocated a decker sometimes as well or have i got wrong

(23 Sep 2020, 5:50 am)Dan wrote Yes, that’s been the case since the service changes in June.


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(23 Sep 2020, 10:56 am)big mac wrote Although the frequency from Durham to Langley Park has doubled since the X20 replaced the 14.  Maybe they think a 30 frequency with Optare Solo buses on this section is enough, but not sure about Durham to Sunderland.

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(23 Sep 2020, 10:56 am)big mac wrote Although the frequency from Durham to Langley Park has doubled since the X20 replaced the 14.  Maybe they think a 30 frequency with Optare Solo buses on this section is enough, but not sure about Durham to Sunderland.

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(23 Sep 2020, 5:37 pm)Storx wrote The capacity from Durham to Langley Park has decreased just saying, the 13 used to be every 30 minutes (now hourly) all operated by full size buses.

(23 Sep 2020, 5:59 pm)big mac wrote Seeing as you mention the 13 I think it's only a matter of time before that service gets withdrawn altogether.    There's alternatives to it on a lot of the route e.g. the 16 and 16a between Sacriston and Durham and the X20 between Langley Park and Sacriston to Durham.  The way they are reducing of it and not having it start until after 9 in the morning on the Westbound journeys makes it looks like they want to phase it out eventually.

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(30 Sep 2020, 10:33 am)V514DFT wrote Personally, since the 11 only go's as far as Wallsend i'd swap the 11 and 41, have the 11 do the old 17 route through Rosehill and Holy Cross (Simonside Terrace Edward Road/Savory Road) during the day then via Archer Street in the Evening,then the 41 can continue its 1 way circular of Howdon but instead head straight down Churchill Street (although my previous suggestion of the 40/41 still stands), i'd also possibly re-number the 11 to 43 and the 19 to 44 to show that theyre all part of the same brand

(30 Sep 2020, 8:35 pm)Storx wrote Personally I'd extend the Q3 to Hadrian Park and then extend the 42 to do the rest of the 41 route. Least it creates some more connections can't imagine there's much demand for people doing the horseshoe route of the 41.

Then at the same time renumber the 42 to 18 and 11 back to the 17. The 17 and 19 have a bit of a history whereas the 42 etc don't wasn't that the 319 anyway at one point so it's kinda close with the 18. The 40's to me are the slow non express Gosforth services.

(30 Sep 2020, 10:22 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Why not extend the 11 to Hadrian Park, return the links to north shields lost years ago (Was it the 300 that did that).

(30 Sep 2020, 10:39 pm)Storx wrote It's not frequent enough, it's only every 30 mins the 11 and it's every 15 mins between Wallsend and Hadrian Park so you'll end up having shorts which are confusing where as the Q3 is every 15 minutes so kinda just works - that was my thinking anyway.

The 335 does Hadrian Park to Shields btw.

(09 Oct 2020, 5:31 pm)V514DFT wrote Heres a crazy suggestion
Would there be a way of making this work
Merging the 11 with the Hadrian Park-Wallsend section of the 41, number it 40,then the 41 can continue to operate the Wallsend-Holy Cross-Rosehill-Howdon Hadrian Park section like it used to,then the 40 does Hadrian Park-Battle Hill-High Farm-Wallsend the every 30 mins does the current 11, and the 41 could interwork with the 40 that would do the current 11, crazy suggestion but thought i'd put it out there

(16 Dec 2020, 12:11 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote If someone else ran competing services to their hourly only routes  71, 925, 938, H2 etc do you think GNE would withdraw them.

(16 Dec 2020, 12:11 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote If someone else ran competing services to their hourly only routes  71, 925, 938, H2 etc do you think GNE would withdraw them.

(01 Jan 2021, 3:23 pm)Malarkey wrote I have working on some suggestions to improve and consolidate the current network of Go North East's services whilst also reinstating some old lost links from years gone by while also opening up new links and opportunities once Covid-19 is over as I feel the majority of the network if things remain as they are service level wise is unsustainable.

I know Martijn Gilbert said in a recent Facebook Live session there was no plans to expand the X-Lines Network beyond what we see now but there is no harm in a few suggestions is there.

Not all of these suggestions have to be used as there is few that cross with each other leading to 30 plus buses an hour in certain areas cough...cough Low Fell but I did struggle to find a way to route these any other way on my suggestions for the 2/2A and 34/34A for example.

Again not all may even work some of you are quite good at tearing service suggestions apart so feel free to sink your teeth into these. 


Coaster 1A 1B
1A - Metrocentre to Whitley Bay via Lobley Hill, Gateshead, Newcastle, Byker, Wallsend, Howdon, North Shields and Tynemouth
1B - Metrocentre to Whitley Bay via Lobley Hill, Gateshead, Newcastle, Byker, Wallsend, Howdon, Percy Main, Royal Quays, North Shields and North Tyneside Hospital
Operating Monday to Saturday Every 15 Minutes combined and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Service 1B & 11 merge together with the 11 withdrawn

Newcastle & Sunderland City Link 2 2A 2S
2 - Sunderland to Newcastle via Royal Hospital, Grindon, Hastings Hill, Penshaw, Barnwell, Fatfield, Biddick, Washington Galleries, Lambton, Ayton, Harraton, Rickleton, Portobello, Barley Mow, Birtley, Wrekenton, Q.E. Hospital, Gateshead, Newcastle
2A - Sunderland to Newcastle via Royal Hospital, Grindon, Hastings Hill, Penshaw, Barnwell, Fatfield, Biddick, Washington Galleries, Lambton, Ayton, Harraton, Rickleton, Portobello, Barley Mow, Birtley, Low Fell, Gateshead, Newcastle
Merging of services 2/2A and 81/82 with a cross city extension to Newcastle Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

Connections 4 4A
4 - Heworth to Houghton-le-Spring via Usworth College, Concord, Washington, Glebe, Biddick, Fatfield, Shiney Row, Bournmoor and Fence Houses
4A - Heworth to Houghton-le-Spring via Usworth College, Donwell, Concord, Washington, Lambton, Harraton, Fatfield, Shiney Row, Philedelphia Success Road and Sunniside
Both services operate Every 20 Minutes, Every 10 Minutes combined
4 unchanged however with a reduced frequency
New Service 4A which is a partial combination of the old M2/294 which in turn reinstates old lost links from years ago.
Current

Go North East 8
Washington Galleries - Biddick - Fatfield - Harraton - Rickleton - Picktree Village - Chester-Le-Street
Hourly Monday to Saturday interworking with service 71 at Chester-Le-Street

Go North East 9
Lukes Lane Estate to Silksworth via Monkton Lane Estate, Hebburn, Jarrow, York Avenue, Boldon Colliery, West Boldon, East Boldon, Fulwell, Sunderland City Centre & Barnes Park
Go North East 9A
Lukes Lane Estate to Silksworth via Monkton Lane Estate, Hebburn, Jarrow, York Avenue, Boldon Colliery, West Boldon, East Boldon, Fulwell, Sunderland City Centre, Grangetown, Ryhope & Hollycarrside
Operating Every 15 Minutes on a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise Loop between Sunderland & Silksworth Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

Little Coasters 18 19
North Shields to North Shields via Royal Quays, Percy Main, Silverlink, Cobalt Park, Northumberland Park, Earsdon, Monkseaton Sainsbury's, Beaumont Drive, Bournemouth Gardens Car Park, Whitley Bay Town Centre, Cullercoates and Tynemouth
Operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday, this service operates on a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise Loop

Prince Bishops 20 20S
Durham to Sunderland via Gilesgate, Belmont, West Rainton, East Rainton, Houghton-le-Spring & East Herrington
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

Black Cats 33/33A
Sunderland to Sunderland via Grangetown, Hollycarrside, Silksworth and Barnes Park
Reintroduction of the old 42/42A operating Monday to Saturday Every 15 Minutes and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays

Go North East 34 34A
Durham to Newcastle via Framwellgate Moor, Arnison Centre, Sacriston, Waldridge Park, Chester-Le-Street, Pelaw Estate, Pelton, Ouston (34), Urpeth Grange (34A), Birtley, Low Fell (34), Wrekenton & Q.E. Hospital (34A) and Gateshead
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

Go North East 36
Sunderland to South Shields via Fulwell, Cleadon and Harton Nook
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

Gateshead Connect 49 49A 49C 49S
Winlaton to Gateshead via Blaydon, Swalwell, Metrocentre, Dunston, Bensham, Gateshead, Carr Hill, Heworth, Fewster Square, Springwell Estate, Wrekenton and Dryden Road
The 49's and Q1/Q2 merge together Operating Every 7/8 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 15 Minutes on a Sunday
Q1/Q2 Withdrawn

Voltra 53 54
Newcastle Market Street West (clockwise) to Newcastle via Quayside, Gateshead, Coatsworth Road, Saltwell Park, Saltwell Road and Central Station
Operating Every 10 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 20 Minutes on Sunday additionally serving Quayside replacing Q1/Q2

Go North East 55 55A
Hartlepool to Sunderland via Hart Station (55A), Hart (55), Wingate (55), Hutton Henry (55), High Hesleden (55), Horden, Peterlee, South Hetton, Easington Lane, Hetton-le-Hole, Houghton-le-Spring and Doxford International
Operating Monday to Saturday Every 30 Minutes Combined with only service 55 operating Hourly on Sundays - Current 55 split into 55/55A and extended back to Hartlepool

CityLink 57 57A 57S
South Shields to Newcastle via Chichester, Hedworth, Fellgate Metro (57), Fellgate Durnhem Way Peterborough Gardens (57A), Wardley Leam Lane (57), Wardley Manor Gardens (57A), Heworth, Leam Lane Estate, Beacon Lough Estate, Queen Elizabeth Hospital and Gateshead
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on Sundays

Prince Bishops Swift 61 61S
Sunderland to Durham via Grangetown, Ryhope Green, New Seaham, Dalton Park, Murton, Hetton-Le Hole, Low Moorsley, Low Pittington and Gilesgate
Merging of the 61/61S and 265/265S operating Monday to Saturday Every 20 Minutes and Every 1 Hour on a Sunday

Cobalt & Coast 310
Newcastle to North Shields via Coast Road, High Farm, Hadrian Park, Cobalt South, Verne Road and Meadowell
Operating Monday to Saturday Every 15 Minutes and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays - 309/311 Withdrawn

Quaycity Q3
Hadrian Park to Great Park via Battle Hill, High Farm, Wallsend, Walker, St Peter's Basin, Ouseburn, Quayside, Newcastle, Gosforth and Regent Centre
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Services 40/41 & 311 Withdrawn

X-lines X1 X1A X1S X2
Newcastle to Easington Lane via Gateshead, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Wrekenton, Springwell Village, Washington, Shiney Row, Houghton-le-Spring and Hetton-le-Hole
Newcastle to Sunderland via Gateshead, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Wrekenton, Springwell Village, Washington, Shiney Row, Hastings Hill, Chester Road and Royal Hospital

X-lines X5 X15
Sunderland to Consett via Doxford International, Houghton-Le-Spring, Rainton Bridge, Belmont, Durham, University Hospital Of Durham, Witton Gilbert, Lanchester, Delves, Consett & Shotley Bridge
Hourly Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sunday between Durham and Shotley Bridge

X-Lines X6
Darlington to Sunderland via Stockton, Billingham, Peterlee, Easington, Dalton Park, Spectrum Business Park, Seaham, Ryhope and Grangetown
Operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sundays

X-Lines X7
Middlesbrough to Sunderland via Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Blackhall Colliery, Peterlee, South Hetton, Easington Lane, Murton, Dalton Park, Spectrum Business Park, Dawdon, Seaham, Ryhope and Grangetown
Operating 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sundays - Indigo 202 withdrawn

X-lines X8 X8A
Lanchester to Sunderland via Maiden Law, Burnhope, Quaking Houses, South Moor, Stanley, Beamish, Grange Villa, Pelton, Chester-le-Street, Washington, Waterview Park, Castletown and Sunderland Enterprise Park
Services 8 and 30 merged together with the service no longer serving Harraton and Rickleton in order to provide faster Xpress Links and operating current frequency of Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday.
New Hourly Service on a Sunday accross the full route also introduced.

X-Lines X23
Newcastle to Darlington via Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Durham - Croxdale - Ferryhill - Newton Aycliffe - Darlington
Hourly Monday to Sunday

X-lines X32
Consett to Newcastle via Delves, Lanchester, Maiden Law, Burnhope, Quaking Houses, South Moor, Stanley, Beamish, High Handenhold, Perkinsville, Ouston, Lamesley, Team Valley, Bensham & Gateshead
Hourly Monday to Saturday

X-Lines X33
Newcastle to Stanley via Central Station, MetroCentre, Whickham, Crookgate, Burnopfield (X33/X34), Tantobie, Tanfield Lea, Stanley, Acton Dene, Sheridan Drive and Stanley Hall Estate
Operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday - Service Merged between Service 30/M6/M7 with an Extension to Newcastle - Services 30/M6/M7 Withdrawn

X-Lines X34
Newcastle to Stanley via Central Station, MetroCentre, Whickham, Crookgate, Tanfield Village, Tantobie, Tanfield Lea, Harperley, West Kyo, Catchgate, Fines Park Estate, Annfield Plain, New Kyo and Oxhill
Operating Hourly Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday - Service Merged between Services 31/32/M8 with an extension to Newcastle - Services 31/32/M8 Withdrawn

X-Lines X39 -
Newcastle to Blyth via Cobalt Business Park - New York - Whitley Bay & Seaton Sluice
Monday to Saturday operating Every 20 Minutes, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

X-Lines X40
Newcastle to Ashington via Silverlink, Cobalt Business Park, Northumberland Park, Cramlington and Bedlington

X-Lines X48
Bishop Auckland to Newcastle via Crook, Tow Law, Castleside, Consett, Medomesley, Rowlands Gill, Swalwell, MetroCentre and Central Station
Hourly Monday to Saturday

X-lines X50
South Shields to Durham via Boldon Colliery, Washington, Chester-le-Street and Arnison Centre
Current service 50 no longer serves Sulgrave, Nissan, Lambton, Ayton and Waldridge Estate
Service runs non stop between Boldon and Washington Galleries, Washington Galleries through to Chester-Le-Street and Chester to Arnison Centre shaving 25 Minutes off the total journey time.

X-lines X83
Newborough to Newcastle via Hexham, Corbridge, Ovington, Wylam, Heddon-On-The-Wall, Denton Burn, MetroCentre and Central Station
Hourly Monday to Saturday

X-lines X86
Hexham to Newcastle via Corbridge, Ovington, Ovingham, Prudoe Station, Tyneview Retail Park, Crawcrook, Ryton, Blaydon, MetroCentre and Central Station
Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sundays - Service 10B and 686 withdrawn

AD122 X122
Hexham to Birdoswald Roman Fort via Chesters Fort, Housesteads, Vindolanda, Haltwhistle, Walltown Roman Fort, Greenhead Hotel and Gisland
Hourly Monday to Sunday

Washington Minilink W1 W2
Washington Galleries to Washington Galleries via Oxclose, Blackfell, Concord, Sulgrave (W2), Peel Retail Park (W2), Barmston, Barmston Court (W1), Brady Square (W1), Biddick (W1) or Washington Village and Glebe (W2)
Services 83/84/85/86 merged to provide a circular service around Washington Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

(01 Jan 2021, 4:18 pm)Storx wrote I can't comment on most the routes but I don't really see the point in the X39, there's not really that much demand for an express to Newcastle that they haven't already got especially between Blyth and Whitley. There's already the X7 doing the top half of Sluice and the X7/X9 in the South Beach area and you've really cut the services in Battle Hill to town (9 buses to 4 buses an hour) and GNE will lose the Coast Road battle as passengers will choose the 306 instead as it's cheaper and quicker.

For the X40, it's a bit a strange one as there's no demand North of Northumberland Park for another bus to Newcastle, the X7, X10/X11, X21/X22 already covers it much quicker depending on where you are. On the otherhand currently the 19 is the only bus route to North Shields from everywhere bar Cramlington which has the 53.

The 50 creates a link to Nissan from a lot of communities, I understand what your trying to do by making it quicker, but I highly doubt there's many customers doing the whole length of the route and it's more about the intermediate journeys. Washington to Nissan, South Shields to Nissan, CLS to Washington etc. Maybe have an hourly X50 which compliments the route? and make the 50 potentially longer to serve more areas ie. Barley Mow and Drum Ind. Estate etc.

Also the 34/34A is the only bus connecting the Ouston villages and it's a duplicate of the 25/28/28A in numerous places which will make them commercially unviable. You'd be better playing around with the 21 instead for Waldridge etc as I do believe they should have a direct bus to Newcastle as short local buses are never the most popular. Alternatively, possibly you could do some quick bus along Low Fell maybe express from The Angel, running all stops from there to Chester extended towards Waldridge Park etc. Replacing the 25 south of there and giving them and Birtley etc a quicker service to town. You could potentially then terminate 6 of the short 21's at the Angel instead saving some PVR on there.
Something like
21: Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Angel (Every 7 Mins) - Birtley - Chester Le Street - Durham (Every 30 Mins)
21X: Newcastle - Gateshead - EXPRESS - Cannon - EXPRESS - Harlow Green - EXPRESS - Coach and Horses - Birtley - Chester Le Street - Waldridge Park (Every 15 Mins) - Sacriston - Langley Park (Every 30 Mins)
Your 2 replaces the 25 with the 50 going via Barley Mow and also Drum Ind. Estate to replace the CLS link partially, it's ridiculous a large work area has no bus service at all. For the 2A I'd be tempted to send it down towards Team Valley via Sainsburys and The Gold Medal then give an all day service to Team Valley skipping Gateshead, Low Fell has more than enough buses and a new link to Team Valley from loads of places.

The X33/X34 should be numbered the 43/44 btw as it's pretty much what they are, why they were withdrawn is still a mystery to me as the routes have struggled ever since when they used to be quite popular.

Agree with the Q3 changes, but you'd need to extend something to cover the other half of the 41, 42 maybe?

(01 Jan 2021, 6:14 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote 56 runs all stops from wrekenton to Q.E Hospital, then fast to gateshead, passengers between q.e and gateshead should use 57 or 28.

61 extended to peterlee as 61A, could compete with ANE's 22 & 23). 

Maybe a service from Kimblesworth & Nettlesworth to CLS (See Attachment)

16B Stanley - East Stanley - Beamish - West Pelton - Grange Villa - Edmonsley - Sacriston - Framwellgate Moor - Durham

(01 Jan 2021, 6:14 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Maybe a service from Kimblesworth & Nettlesworth to CLS (See Attachment)