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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - xpm - 01 Jan 2021
X83 - there just isn’t the demand for passengers even before Covid-19 through ovington/ovingham/wylam and even heddon anymore. It’s already a trek from newbrough to the town without making it go the x84 route too. Now if you dropped these out as well as heddon and Denton burn, you might just have something, particularly in peak commuter time.
X86 a non- starter, can’t get anything bigger than a transit van over ovingham bridge - and even that isn’t pleasant.
Ad122/x122 - route can’t be done in an hour - too long to be a competitor to the already long 685, and next to nil traffic for Gilsland/birdoswald, asides a few days here and there in peak holiday seasons, 185 covers this. Not going to go to a PVR of 3 - there just isn’t the reward to justify it.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - L469 YVK - 01 Jan 2021
(01 Jan 2021, 4:18 pm)Storx wrote The X33/X34 should be numbered the 43/44 btw as it's pretty much what they are, why they were withdrawn is still a mystery to me as the routes have struggled ever since when they used to be quite popular.In a nutshell, the 43/44 was replaced in the following for people who don't need to go via the Metrocentre
- X30/X31 increased to up to every 15 mins providing more "fast" buses from Stanley.
- Most parts of the 43/44 and current 6 between Stanley and Sunniside towards Newcastle are covered by the X70 & X71 as well as the recently extended X30.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 01 Jan 2021
(01 Jan 2021, 8:14 pm)cbma06 wrote Here’s my 2 pence worth suggestions:Try these,
4/X1/ and new X2,
Half the X1 frequency.
New X2 between Newcastle and Hetton, between Newcastle and Concord (old x95 route), between Concord and Galleries via Washington Highway, then from Galleries to Hetton Interchange (old X94 route). X1 and X2 combined 10 minute service.
4 Heworth to Hall Lane estate
4 withdrawn between Shiney row and Houghton by the new X2, from Shiney Row to Newbottle via the old 194 route then down to Burnside estate into Houghton then continue upto Hall Lane estate via Seaham Road/B1260 then along Hall Lane back to Houghton to Heworth, service 4 via Hall Lane estate to replace service 20 in that section.
16/16A/20/60
Service 20/16/16A merged at Durham to provide new cross city links, service will run every 15 minutes.
Service 20 will be withdrawn from Hall Lane estate and go via the old 220 route, also withdrawn between Sunderland and South Shields with that section been replaced by extending service 60.
X20/13/14/204/208/265/X5/X15
Service X5/X15 extended from Durham to Sunderland replacing X20
How busy does service X5/X15 can be, can the service be done using streetlites?
Service numbers might need to be changed, Service 265 extended from Durham to Langley Park via X20 route then do the 13 route back to Durham then the 204 route then vice versa
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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Acky81 - 04 Jan 2021
A lot of people have suggested extending the 60 to South Shields. There’s no demand for it. GNE tried and tested this previously with service 37 many moons ago
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Adtrainsam - 04 Jan 2021
(04 Jan 2021, 10:45 pm)Acky81 wrote A lot of people have suggested extending the 60 to South Shields. There’s no demand for it. GNE tried and tested this previously with service 37 many moons agoI think others meant that the 60 would replace the 20 between South Shields and Sunderland. Not too sure why to be honest as the 20 is only roughly 10 minutes longer between Sunderland and Durham than the 60 between Sunderland and Parkside. So it wouldn’t benefit reliability that much.
Although, the branding might work better, with Drifter having connotations of the sea etc. Unlikely in the current climate though.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Drifter60 - 05 Jan 2021
(04 Jan 2021, 10:45 pm)Acky81 wrote A lot of people have suggested extending the 60 to South Shields. There’s no demand for it. GNE tried and tested this previously with service 37 many moons ago
The difference would be that this isn’t an additional service it would replace service 20 in that area, so vehicles and resources would be unchanged. Also Ryhope, Seaham and Parkside don’t have anywhere near the congestion of Durham, Gilesgate and the A690 so while the route length may not be remarkably different it would I’d suggest improve reliability.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - deanmachine - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 10:33 am)Drifter60 wrote The difference would be that this isn’t an additional service it would replace service 20 in that area, so vehicles and resources would be unchanged. Also Ryhope, Seaham and Parkside don’t have anywhere near the congestion of Durham, Gilesgate and the A690 so while the route length may not be remarkably different it would I’d suggest improve reliability.
From personal experience, the 60 is harder to keep on time than the 20. Either service aren't too bad currently in all honesty, but swapping the Durham bit for the Seaham bit definitely isn't something to do in search for reliability. See the 9 and 61 for example.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 05 Jan 2021
Would a split be better: 20 still does Durham to Sunderland, Another Number Between Sunderland to Shields
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Drifter60 - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 12:36 pm)deanmachine wrote From personal experience, the 60 is harder to keep on time than the 20. Either service aren't too bad currently in all honesty, but swapping the Durham bit for the Seaham bit definitely isn't something to do in search for reliability. See the 9 and 61 for example.
Is that the timetable being too tight? More layover needed at Parkside or extra layover at Seaham? In Seaham, Byron Terrace (New Seaham Mill Inn) is bad at school times but otherwise I don’t think anywhere else is that busy.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - LVK 404L - 05 Jan 2021
I'd go for a 30 minute new service between Shields and Sunderland supplemented with a 30 min Express service X6/X7 extended to Shields, with limited stops at Wheatsheaf (for Stadium), Fulwell Grange, Cleadon Village Harton Nook and Westoe.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 4:32 pm)ifm001 wrote I'd go for a 30 minute new service between Shields and Sunderland supplemented with a 30 min Express service X6/X7 extended to Shields, with limited stops at Wheatsheaf (for Stadium), Fulwell Grange, Cleadon Village Harton Nook and Westoe.
Canny service cut for people wanting to go between points, I don't know the numbers but can't imagine there's many people travelling all the way from Sunderland to South Shields it's bit like travelling from no-where to no-where.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - LVK 404L - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 5:51 pm)Storx wrote Canny service cut for people wanting to go between points, I don't know the numbers but can't imagine there's many people travelling all the way from Sunderland to South Shields it's bit like travelling from no-where to no-where.Not sure where your coming from here. 15 min service between the 2 points with the limited stop services stopping at various points in between . As I've said before in other posts too many services on 10/12 min frequencies utilising more drivers with smaller vehicles. Make the frequency longer with 15/20/30 min services with larger vehicles less drivers used. This will enable other drivers to be used for increase in services that need frequency increases or new services that are needed elsewhere apparantley.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 4:32 pm)Drifter60 wrote Is that the timetable being too tight? More layover needed at Parkside or extra layover at Seaham? In Seaham, Byron Terrace (New Seaham Mill Inn) is bad at school times but otherwise I don’t think anywhere else is that busy.
I was thinking about traffic in Seaham the other day, when posting about the horrendous bus links to/from the railway station.
Apart from where you mention, I've seen it quite busy outside Asda and just along from the Mill Inn at the lights where Stockton Road meets Seaton Lane/Lord Byrons Walk.
Those three jump out off the top of my head.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 7:05 pm)ifm001 wrote Not sure where your coming from here. 15 min service between the 2 points with the limited stop services stopping at various points in between . As I've said before in other posts too many services on 10/12 min frequencies utilising more drivers with smaller vehicles. Make the frequency longer with 15/20/30 min services with larger vehicles less drivers used. This will enable other drivers to be used for increase in services that need frequency increases or new services that are needed elsewhere apparantley.
Because there's many bus stops in between. For someone say travelling from Miller & Carter to South Shields, you've gone from a 12 minute service to a 30 minute service. That's a massive cut in service; every 12 minutes is pretty much turn up and go, every 30 minutes isn't. The limited stop service here doesn't make sense as there won't be many people travelling end to end, it's about the intermediate stops. You might aswell just drop it to every 15 minutes throughout but there's other areas in Sunderland if you want to cut services which should go first.
If you want to do stuff like that then the best service would be the 60 and drop it to every 20 minutes and interwork it with the 61 for a 10 minute service through the core section. With a hourly X8 doing a quicker service to Parkside etc and then you'd have a 20 minute express service to Seaham aswell and a much quicker service from Parkside etc even known it's only hourly.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - N1cholas - 05 Jan 2021
Bit pointless having an Express going up parkside as most from parkside only go down the harbour anyway, and back up then back down, they are only on the bus 10 mins so an express would be pointless
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 05 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 9:37 pm)N1cholas wrote Bit pointless having an Express going up parkside as most from parkside only go down the harbour anyway, and back up then back down, they are only on the bus 10 mins so an express would be pointless
Yeah that's fair, don't know the area too well tbh. Was just an idea to try and promote people going from Seaham to Sunderland to use the express services and it seemed a place to send it since their buses would be down from 5 an hour to 3 an hour rather than them using the 60 so the 60 is for people doing intermediate journeys instead.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - deanmachine - 06 Jan 2021
(05 Jan 2021, 9:40 pm)Storx wrote Yeah that's fair, don't know the area too well tbh. Was just an idea to try and promote people going from Seaham to Sunderland to use the express services and it seemed a place to send it since their buses would be down from 5 an hour to 3 an hour rather than them using the 60 so the 60 is for people doing intermediate journeys instead.
The Seaham to Sunderland journey isn't that long in reality either. There's already a half hourly express service that isn't used much anyways, just look at how long it kept it's X-Lines spec Solos.
Also in response to other people's posts, it's absolutely laughable that people don't see South Shields to Sunderland as being a type of service people use. Stagecoach have 3 services and the 20 being every 12 minutes shows how used it is, and it is, even during a lockdown.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - LVK 404L - 06 Jan 2021
(06 Jan 2021, 1:02 am)deanmachine wrote The Seaham to Sunderland journey isn't that long in reality either. There's already a half hourly express service that isn't used much anyways, just look at how long it kept it's X-Lines spec Solos.I'm not saying that Shields to Sunderland is not a used service. Quite the opposite. Offer an Express in addition to the normal service (all other GNE areas have Xs why not Shields). But I have to ask the question. A 36-40 seat vehicle every 12 mins or a 50- 70 seat vehicle every 20/30 mins would still benefit surely not, and release other vehicles and drivers to be used elsewhere that may be struggling more than the Shields to Sunderland route.
Also in response to other people's posts, it's absolutely laughable that people don't see South Shields to Sunderland as being a type of service people use. Stagecoach have 3 services and the 20 being every 12 minutes shows how used it is, and it is, even during a lockdown.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 06 Jan 2021
(06 Jan 2021, 1:02 am)deanmachine wrote The Seaham to Sunderland journey isn't that long in reality either. There's already a half hourly express service that isn't used much anyways, just look at how long it kept it's X-Lines spec Solos.
Also in response to other people's posts, it's absolutely laughable that people don't see South Shields to Sunderland as being a type of service people use. Stagecoach have 3 services and the 20 being every 12 minutes shows how used it is, and it is, even during a lockdown.
Fair points tbf, I wouldn't really do it anyway tbh it was just more sensible if we had to cut something (there's an obsession on here) over the 20.
(06 Jan 2021, 1:21 am)ifm001 wrote I'm not saying that Shields to Sunderland is not a used service. Quite the opposite. Offer an Express in addition to the normal service (all other GNE areas have Xs why not Shields). But I have to ask the question. A 36-40 seat vehicle every 12 mins or a 50- 70 seat vehicle every 20/30 mins would still benefit surely not, and release other vehicles and drivers to be used elsewhere that may be struggling more than the Shields to Sunderland route.
You're kind of missing the point of an Express service. They're generally there to give further out points a quicker route to a major hub where most people are travelling. That isn't the case between Sunderland and South Shields so by creating an express all your doing is cutting the service for a particular area for a time saving of approx 5 minutes max and it's not worth it. There's also a fair chunk of GNE's 'express' network which is rather questionable about whether it's express at all (X45/X46/X47/X5/X15).
From GNE's point of view maybe but as a passenger there's a very big difference between a bus every 12 minutes and a bus every 30 minutes. Especially on the South Shields end where people would opt to use the slower but more frequent E service to Sunderland and 3/4 into South Shields so you'd lose passengers in the end and also at the Sunderland end with the E2. If the bus route makes a profit of £500 a day lets say now, by moving those buses off that service onto another service isn't going to make that route more profitable. You are taking a massive risk at decreasing that £500 a profit on the 20 though when it's not needed. If a bus route is making money why change it?
If you really want to make a positive change have a look at the 9 because the services which Boldon get lately are an disgrace for the size of town with a half hourly service and that's your lot now (used to be every 15 minutes with the X3 aswell).
Personally I'd go for an express bus route like this - https://goo.gl/maps/ppRbZY8d87LbEaBe8 and if you wondering why the weird route along Follingsby it's so you create a bus link to the new massive Amazon centre which is being built from Newcastle and Sunderland and metro connections from East Boldon and Heworth which atm doesn't have any bus services at all and at the same time improving areas which generally have a poor service.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - deanmachine - 06 Jan 2021
(06 Jan 2021, 1:21 am)ifm001 wrote I'm not saying that Shields to Sunderland is not a used service. Quite the opposite. Offer an Express in addition to the normal service (all other GNE areas have Xs why not Shields). But I have to ask the question. A 36-40 seat vehicle every 12 mins or a 50- 70 seat vehicle every 20/30 mins would still benefit surely not, and release other vehicles and drivers to be used elsewhere that may be struggling more than the Shields to Sunderland route.
If when I look at my finishing times and it's 5 minutes after the 20 is due, and there's a 25 minute wait for it, I'll probably take the car in. I doubt I'm the only one either.
I don't think South Shields needs an express route Sunderland way, the 20 is already pretty quick. Newcastle way, we've got the Metro anyways. It's a shame the X50 was killed off if anything, it used to be a well used route back in the day, it's a shame there's no demand for something like that these days.
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Expresslink - 06 Jan 2021
Didn't they try an express service in the late 80s? I'm sure there was an X35, basically an express version of the 535/536
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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 06 Jan 2021
(06 Jan 2021, 11:51 am)deanmachine wrote If when I look at my finishing times and it's 5 minutes after the 20 is due, and there's a 25 minute wait for it, I'll probably take the car in. I doubt I'm the only one either.
I don't think South Shields needs an express route Sunderland way, the 20 is already pretty quick. Newcastle way, we've got the Metro anyways. It's a shame the X50 was killed off if anything, it used to be a well used route back in the day, it's a shame there's no demand for something like that these days.
The Solars used on the X20/X50 transferred to the 'swift' version of the 20, c2006.
Was it the 20X? X20? (there's been that many versions of the fast bus between Sunderland and Durham).
Whatever it was, they saw fit to get rid of the X20/X50 and utilise the vehicles in another guise.
It would be interesting to see if the X50 ever had a negative effect on the 50.
I can't see too many people chosing the latter, if the quicker version was due in and it took them wherever they needed to be.
I can't see there being too much demand for both services then, never-mind now, unless they serve the likes of Nissan, Waterview Park AND the manufacturing park.
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - cbma06 - 06 Jan 2021
(06 Jan 2021, 1:02 pm)Expresslink wrote Didn't they try an express service in the late 80s? I'm sure there was an X35, basically an express version of the 535/536
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I think the X62 used to run in the late 80’s from south Hetton to Shields?, I remember getting that service from Hetton to Sunderland on a Saturday
I think the original 164 was the express service every 2 hours during daytime , originally it used to go to South Shields before axing the shields section and ran it to Seaburn instead
There killed off the 535/536 when there diverted the route via the 161 route when there took over 161, and killed it further when there renumbered the service 35/35A/36
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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - idiot - 06 Jan 2021
Folly will warrant a bus service when amazon shifts there imho
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - deanmachine - 07 Jan 2021
(06 Jan 2021, 2:44 pm)Andreos1 wrote The Solars used on the X20/X50 transferred to the 'swift' version of the 20, c2006.
Was it the 20X? X20? (there's been that many versions of the fast bus between Sunderland and Durham).
Whatever it was, they saw fit to get rid of the X20/X50 and utilise the vehicles in another guise.
It would be interesting to see if the X50 ever had a negative effect on the 50.
I can't see too many people chosing the latter, if the quicker version was due in and it took them wherever they needed to be.
I can't see there being too much demand for both services then, never-mind now, unless they serve the likes of Nissan, Waterview Park AND the manufacturing park.
Merely anecdotally from some of the drivers who were on the X20/X50 rota in it's prime, as it was well before I ever worked there, they claim that it all went down hill after the X50 service went to Chester-le-Street, and when based at Deptford the drivers were cashing in hundreds more than we take on an average shift now just on those services. No idea of the reality of it though.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - logidoodah - 07 Jan 2021
(01 Jan 2021, 3:23 pm)Malarkey wrote I have working on some suggestions to improve and consolidate the current network of Go North East's services whilst also reinstating some old lost links from years gone by while also opening up new links and opportunities once Covid-19 is over as I feel the majority of the network if things remain as they are service level wise is unsustainable.I agree with the Q3 and potentially the 53/54 as well, however the electrics may stuggle up Grey/Dean Street etc...
I know Martijn Gilbert said in a recent Facebook Live session there was no plans to expand the X-Lines Network beyond what we see now but there is no harm in a few suggestions is there.
Not all of these suggestions have to be used as there is few that cross with each other leading to 30 plus buses an hour in certain areas cough...cough Low Fell but I did struggle to find a way to route these any other way on my suggestions for the 2/2A and 34/34A for example.
Again not all may even work some of you are quite good at tearing service suggestions apart so feel free to sink your teeth into these.
Coaster 1A 1B
1A - Metrocentre to Whitley Bay via Lobley Hill, Gateshead, Newcastle, Byker, Wallsend, Howdon, North Shields and Tynemouth
1B - Metrocentre to Whitley Bay via Lobley Hill, Gateshead, Newcastle, Byker, Wallsend, Howdon, Percy Main, Royal Quays, North Shields and North Tyneside Hospital
Operating Monday to Saturday Every 15 Minutes combined and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Service 1B & 11 merge together with the 11 withdrawn
Newcastle & Sunderland City Link 2 2A 2S
2 - Sunderland to Newcastle via Royal Hospital, Grindon, Hastings Hill, Penshaw, Barnwell, Fatfield, Biddick, Washington Galleries, Lambton, Ayton, Harraton, Rickleton, Portobello, Barley Mow, Birtley, Wrekenton, Q.E. Hospital, Gateshead, Newcastle
2A - Sunderland to Newcastle via Royal Hospital, Grindon, Hastings Hill, Penshaw, Barnwell, Fatfield, Biddick, Washington Galleries, Lambton, Ayton, Harraton, Rickleton, Portobello, Barley Mow, Birtley, Low Fell, Gateshead, Newcastle
Merging of services 2/2A and 81/82 with a cross city extension to Newcastle Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Connections 4 4A
4 - Heworth to Houghton-le-Spring via Usworth College, Concord, Washington, Glebe, Biddick, Fatfield, Shiney Row, Bournmoor and Fence Houses
4A - Heworth to Houghton-le-Spring via Usworth College, Donwell, Concord, Washington, Lambton, Harraton, Fatfield, Shiney Row, Philedelphia Success Road and Sunniside
Both services operate Every 20 Minutes, Every 10 Minutes combined
4 unchanged however with a reduced frequency
New Service 4A which is a partial combination of the old M2/294 which in turn reinstates old lost links from years ago.
Current
Go North East 8
Washington Galleries - Biddick - Fatfield - Harraton - Rickleton - Picktree Village - Chester-Le-Street
Hourly Monday to Saturday interworking with service 71 at Chester-Le-Street
Go North East 9
Lukes Lane Estate to Silksworth via Monkton Lane Estate, Hebburn, Jarrow, York Avenue, Boldon Colliery, West Boldon, East Boldon, Fulwell, Sunderland City Centre & Barnes Park
Go North East 9A
Lukes Lane Estate to Silksworth via Monkton Lane Estate, Hebburn, Jarrow, York Avenue, Boldon Colliery, West Boldon, East Boldon, Fulwell, Sunderland City Centre, Grangetown, Ryhope & Hollycarrside
Operating Every 15 Minutes on a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise Loop between Sunderland & Silksworth Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Little Coasters 18 19
North Shields to North Shields via Royal Quays, Percy Main, Silverlink, Cobalt Park, Northumberland Park, Earsdon, Monkseaton Sainsbury's, Beaumont Drive, Bournemouth Gardens Car Park, Whitley Bay Town Centre, Cullercoates and Tynemouth
Operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday, this service operates on a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise Loop
Prince Bishops 20 20S
Durham to Sunderland via Gilesgate, Belmont, West Rainton, East Rainton, Houghton-le-Spring & East Herrington
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Black Cats 33/33A
Sunderland to Sunderland via Grangetown, Hollycarrside, Silksworth and Barnes Park
Reintroduction of the old 42/42A operating Monday to Saturday Every 15 Minutes and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays
Go North East 34 34A
Durham to Newcastle via Framwellgate Moor, Arnison Centre, Sacriston, Waldridge Park, Chester-Le-Street, Pelaw Estate, Pelton, Ouston (34), Urpeth Grange (34A), Birtley, Low Fell (34), Wrekenton & Q.E. Hospital (34A) and Gateshead
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Go North East 36
Sunderland to South Shields via Fulwell, Cleadon and Harton Nook
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Gateshead Connect 49 49A 49C 49S
Winlaton to Gateshead via Blaydon, Swalwell, Metrocentre, Dunston, Bensham, Gateshead, Carr Hill, Heworth, Fewster Square, Springwell Estate, Wrekenton and Dryden Road
The 49's and Q1/Q2 merge together Operating Every 7/8 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 15 Minutes on a Sunday
Q1/Q2 Withdrawn
Voltra 53 54
Newcastle Market Street West (clockwise) to Newcastle via Quayside, Gateshead, Coatsworth Road, Saltwell Park, Saltwell Road and Central Station
Operating Every 10 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 20 Minutes on Sunday additionally serving Quayside replacing Q1/Q2
Go North East 55 55A
Hartlepool to Sunderland via Hart Station (55A), Hart (55), Wingate (55), Hutton Henry (55), High Hesleden (55), Horden, Peterlee, South Hetton, Easington Lane, Hetton-le-Hole, Houghton-le-Spring and Doxford International
Operating Monday to Saturday Every 30 Minutes Combined with only service 55 operating Hourly on Sundays - Current 55 split into 55/55A and extended back to Hartlepool
CityLink 57 57A 57S
South Shields to Newcastle via Chichester, Hedworth, Fellgate Metro (57), Fellgate Durnhem Way Peterborough Gardens (57A), Wardley Leam Lane (57), Wardley Manor Gardens (57A), Heworth, Leam Lane Estate, Beacon Lough Estate, Queen Elizabeth Hospital and Gateshead
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on Sundays
Prince Bishops Swift 61 61S
Sunderland to Durham via Grangetown, Ryhope Green, New Seaham, Dalton Park, Murton, Hetton-Le Hole, Low Moorsley, Low Pittington and Gilesgate
Merging of the 61/61S and 265/265S operating Monday to Saturday Every 20 Minutes and Every 1 Hour on a Sunday
Cobalt & Coast 310
Newcastle to North Shields via Coast Road, High Farm, Hadrian Park, Cobalt South, Verne Road and Meadowell
Operating Monday to Saturday Every 15 Minutes and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays - 309/311 Withdrawn
Quaycity Q3
Hadrian Park to Great Park via Battle Hill, High Farm, Wallsend, Walker, St Peter's Basin, Ouseburn, Quayside, Newcastle, Gosforth and Regent Centre
Operating Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
Services 40/41 & 311 Withdrawn
X-lines X1 X1A X1S X2
Newcastle to Easington Lane via Gateshead, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Wrekenton, Springwell Village, Washington, Shiney Row, Houghton-le-Spring and Hetton-le-Hole
Newcastle to Sunderland via Gateshead, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Wrekenton, Springwell Village, Washington, Shiney Row, Hastings Hill, Chester Road and Royal Hospital
X-lines X5 X15
Sunderland to Consett via Doxford International, Houghton-Le-Spring, Rainton Bridge, Belmont, Durham, University Hospital Of Durham, Witton Gilbert, Lanchester, Delves, Consett & Shotley Bridge
Hourly Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sunday between Durham and Shotley Bridge
X-Lines X6
Darlington to Sunderland via Stockton, Billingham, Peterlee, Easington, Dalton Park, Spectrum Business Park, Seaham, Ryhope and Grangetown
Operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sundays
X-Lines X7
Middlesbrough to Sunderland via Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Blackhall Colliery, Peterlee, South Hetton, Easington Lane, Murton, Dalton Park, Spectrum Business Park, Dawdon, Seaham, Ryhope and Grangetown
Operating 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sundays - Indigo 202 withdrawn
X-lines X8 X8A
Lanchester to Sunderland via Maiden Law, Burnhope, Quaking Houses, South Moor, Stanley, Beamish, Grange Villa, Pelton, Chester-le-Street, Washington, Waterview Park, Castletown and Sunderland Enterprise Park
Services 8 and 30 merged together with the service no longer serving Harraton and Rickleton in order to provide faster Xpress Links and operating current frequency of Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday.
New Hourly Service on a Sunday accross the full route also introduced.
X-Lines X23
Newcastle to Darlington via Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester-Le-Street - Durham - Croxdale - Ferryhill - Newton Aycliffe - Darlington
Hourly Monday to Sunday
X-lines X32
Consett to Newcastle via Delves, Lanchester, Maiden Law, Burnhope, Quaking Houses, South Moor, Stanley, Beamish, High Handenhold, Perkinsville, Ouston, Lamesley, Team Valley, Bensham & Gateshead
Hourly Monday to Saturday
X-Lines X33
Newcastle to Stanley via Central Station, MetroCentre, Whickham, Crookgate, Burnopfield (X33/X34), Tantobie, Tanfield Lea, Stanley, Acton Dene, Sheridan Drive and Stanley Hall Estate
Operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday - Service Merged between Service 30/M6/M7 with an Extension to Newcastle - Services 30/M6/M7 Withdrawn
X-Lines X34
Newcastle to Stanley via Central Station, MetroCentre, Whickham, Crookgate, Tanfield Village, Tantobie, Tanfield Lea, Harperley, West Kyo, Catchgate, Fines Park Estate, Annfield Plain, New Kyo and Oxhill
Operating Hourly Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday - Service Merged between Services 31/32/M8 with an extension to Newcastle - Services 31/32/M8 Withdrawn
X-Lines X39 -
Newcastle to Blyth via Cobalt Business Park - New York - Whitley Bay & Seaton Sluice
Monday to Saturday operating Every 20 Minutes, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
X-Lines X40
Newcastle to Ashington via Silverlink, Cobalt Business Park, Northumberland Park, Cramlington and Bedlington
X-Lines X48
Bishop Auckland to Newcastle via Crook, Tow Law, Castleside, Consett, Medomesley, Rowlands Gill, Swalwell, MetroCentre and Central Station
Hourly Monday to Saturday
X-lines X50
South Shields to Durham via Boldon Colliery, Washington, Chester-le-Street and Arnison Centre
Current service 50 no longer serves Sulgrave, Nissan, Lambton, Ayton and Waldridge Estate
Service runs non stop between Boldon and Washington Galleries, Washington Galleries through to Chester-Le-Street and Chester to Arnison Centre shaving 25 Minutes off the total journey time.
X-lines X83
Newborough to Newcastle via Hexham, Corbridge, Ovington, Wylam, Heddon-On-The-Wall, Denton Burn, MetroCentre and Central Station
Hourly Monday to Saturday
X-lines X86
Hexham to Newcastle via Corbridge, Ovington, Ovingham, Prudoe Station, Tyneview Retail Park, Crawcrook, Ryton, Blaydon, MetroCentre and Central Station
Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on Sundays - Service 10B and 686 withdrawn
AD122 X122
Hexham to Birdoswald Roman Fort via Chesters Fort, Housesteads, Vindolanda, Haltwhistle, Walltown Roman Fort, Greenhead Hotel and Gisland
Hourly Monday to Sunday
Washington Minilink W1 W2
Washington Galleries to Washington Galleries via Oxclose, Blackfell, Concord, Sulgrave (W2), Peel Retail Park (W2), Barmston, Barmston Court (W1), Brady Square (W1), Biddick (W1) or Washington Village and Glebe (W2)
Services 83/84/85/86 merged to provide a circular service around Washington Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - LVK 404L - 07 Jan 2021
(07 Jan 2021, 12:10 am)deanmachine wrote Merely anecdotally from some of the drivers who were on the X20/X50 rota in it's prime, as it was well before I ever worked there, they claim that it all went down hill after the X50 service went to Chester-le-Street, and when based at Deptford the drivers were cashing in hundreds more than we take on an average shift now just on those services. No idea of the reality of it though.Didnt think the X20/X50 ever worked out of Chester le Street. When the Deltas 4801/3-7 Go Xpress where operated at the start it was Deptford but then they got moved to South Shields depot for operation of the 2 services and I believe that was when they definatley went downhill as Shields had no interest as they knew they were for imminent closure..
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 07 Jan 2021
(07 Jan 2021, 1:08 am)ifm001 wrote Didnt think the X20/X50 ever worked out of Chester le Street. When the Deltas 4801/3-7 Go Xpress where operated at the start it was Deptford but then they got moved to South Shields depot for operation of the 2 services and I believe that was when they definatley went downhill as Shields had no interest as they knew they were for imminent closure..Didnt the x20 go to shields at one point. Also the current 50 is one of my favourite routes. Here is a idea I had.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 07 Jan 2021
(07 Jan 2021, 1:08 am)ifm001 wrote Didnt think the X20/X50 ever worked out of Chester le Street. When the Deltas 4801/3-7 Go Xpress where operated at the start it was Deptford but then they got moved to South Shields depot for operation of the 2 services and I believe that was when they definatley went downhill as Shields had no interest as they knew they were for imminent closure..
I think the X50 was standalone for a short while and operated by Chester, after the original X20 ended.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - deanmachine - 07 Jan 2021
(07 Jan 2021, 7:45 am)ASX_Terranova wrote Didnt the x20 go to shields at one point.
It did, remember getting on a Optare Delta from the Nook to Durham as a kid, don't think it lasted long though.
(07 Jan 2021, 1:08 am)ifm001 wrote Didnt think the X20/X50 ever worked out of Chester le Street. When the Deltas 4801/3-7 Go Xpress where operated at the start it was Deptford but then they got moved to South Shields depot for operation of the 2 services and I believe that was when they definatley went downhill as Shields had no interest as they knew they were for imminent closure..
Don't think the latter bit is entirely true, as the peak I was referring to was the Deptford operated version with the Solars, maybe it did suffer at Shields, but the Shields drivers haven't said anything to that effect.