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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 09 Jun 2017 May is off to Buckingham Palace according to reports. Should we all chip in (I reckon we could cobble together 6.8p) to buy her some breakfast? RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Ds1197 - 09 Jun 2017 Labour did way better then I expected them to. Labour last the election but gained the most seats and Scotland kinda a saved the Conservatives in this election. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 8:38 am)MrFozz wrote Everything pointed to a massive Tory win about 6-8 weeks ago, they were 20+ points ahead. https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/44770/The+DUP+racist%2C+homophobic%2C+anti+abortion+bigots+with+a+history+of+violence More on the DUP. The less said about Arlene Foster, the better. I would recommend reading about the Green Energy fiasco. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - LeeCalder - 09 Jun 2017 Wouldn't be happy with the DUP to be honest, very, very controversial. They have insisted on blocking equal marriage rights consistently for the last five years in Northern Ireland. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Jamie M - 09 Jun 2017 Lisabela Zxywhiddm Marschild's "Space Navies Party" received 81 votes in Blaydon. ...what Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 9:44 am)Andreos1 wrote https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/44770/The+DUP+racist%2C+homophobic%2C+anti+abortion+bigots+with+a+history+of+violence Isn't that what brought Stormont to it's knees earlier this with the Shinners walking out of Government. How will Sinn Fein react to the DUP being able to seemingly hold May to Ransom? They cant be any kind of excitement from them at that prospect. So when do people think the next Election will be? 6 months, 1 year, cant see this Parliament going till 2020 or 2022 When will Tory Backbenchers declare no confidence in Mrs May? I think Jeremy Corbyn is now in a position if he holds on, he could win an election in the next 6-12 months, or at least become the largest party in a hung parliament Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 10:46 am)Jamie M wrote Lisabela Zxywhiddm Marschild's "Space Navies Party" received 81 votes in Blaydon. I forgot about that. Here's her election literature.... RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Jamie M - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 10:54 am)Andreos1 wrote I forgot about that.I thought it was an invitation to a kid's party or something when it came through the door. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 10:50 am)MrFozz wrote Isn't that what brought Stormont to it's knees earlier this with the Shinners walking out of Government. A few MP's have said they think May should stand down. I think Anna Soubry was one. We will find out what Sinn Fein think in a moment. They're about to hold a press conference. And yes, Arlene Foster's energy scheme is the reason they gave for standin down earlier in the year. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - James101 - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 11:22 am)Jamie M wrote I thought it was an invitation to a kid's party or something when it came through the door. In the area I live the local looney, sorry - independent candidate, was Barbara Fielding. I nearly choked on my cornflakes when her campaign leaflet landed on my door mat last week. 'Vote Barbara Fielding to regain our white European supremacy'. It's fantastic we live in a society where we are all free to express our views through democracy, but where do you draw the line? By dictating what people can say during an election you'll be damaging the principles of democracy? Do we just have to trust people won't vote for a bona-fide fruit loop? Perhaps not, as 210 people voted for Babs - up from 131 since February (the by-election caused by Tristram Hunt's resignation). Her 'manifesto' is good for a laugh - and potentially a cry: https://abolishmcrm.com/party-constitution-and-manifesto/ I'm surprised she hasn't been picked up by the media more - not that we should ever let her think her views have any legitimacy. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 09 Jun 2017 In my opinion this was a fantastic night for Labour, and more importantly, a huge rejection of austerity and cuts from the electorate. They're sick of it, and a man that everyone had ruled down and out, has managed to engage a nation. His policies reached far and wide, they reached what people really felt, and for the first time, they got young adults amongst us to get involved in politics and vote. Turnout was high across the board. Theresa May is finished. She has had to scrape the barrel and work with the DUP, as not even the Liberals would work with her now. She will be humiliated a couple of times in the Commons, and then confirm what we've known all along - she is no more "strong and stable" than a wet paper bag. Labour need to keep building this momentum, because I don't think we will even have to wait 12 months to do this all over again. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Ds1197 - 09 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 8:39 pm)Adrian wrote In my opinion this was a fantastic night for Labour, and more importantly, a huge rejection of austerity and cuts from the electorate. They're sick of it, and a man that everyone had ruled down and out, has managed to engage a nation. His policies reached far and wide, they reached what people really felt, and for the first time, they got young adults amongst us to get involved in politics and vote. Turnout was high across the board. Quoting my mate here Theresa May Strong and Stable actually weak and wobbly RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 09 Jun 2017 It didn't take people long - spotted this on Twitter earlier: https://twitter.com/Jfarrers/status/873261514144272384 RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 9:02 pm)Adrian wrote It didn't take people long - spotted this on Twitter earlier: https://twitter.com/Jfarrers/status/873261514144272384 They're a scary bunch and I won't be surprised if the Tories us them to punish us for voting all wrong. I saw someone describe their manifesto as the Bible with added bin collections. I'll not be best pleased if they start trying to stick their evil beaks into our relationships and reproductive rights. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 9:48 am)BusLoverMum wrote They're a scary bunch and I won't be surprised if the Tories us them to punish us for voting all wrong. Yeah they are. They're a real dangerous bunch. Sinn Fein are claiming that the Tory/DUP deal is in breach of the Good Friday Agreement, so that one should be interesting to follow! RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 10:51 am)Adrian wrote Yeah they are. They're a real dangerous bunch. It is. Part of the GFA is that the UK government remains impartial and does nothing to appear to favour either side in NI. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 1:52 pm)BusLoverMum wrote It is. Part of the GFA is that the UK government remains impartial and does nothing to appear to favour either side in NI.Was that Impartiality not meant for Stormont only??? Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 2:20 pm)MrFozz wrote Was that Impartiality not meant for Stormont only??? Well... It's all a bit delicate, already http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-northern-ireland-dup-votes-peace-process-a7519106.html RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017 This is an excellent post about how delicate the situation in NI is and how inflammatory the DUP's alliance with the Tories could be http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/09/will-theresa-mays-dup-coalition-bring-new-troubles-to-northern-ireland-sinn-fein/ RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 7:44 pm)BusLoverMum wrote This is an excellent post about how delicate the situation in NI is and how inflammatory the DUP's alliance with the Tories could beThe problem as I understand it is this... To get Stormont back on track, the British and Irish Governments were to mediate between Sinn Fein and the DUP. The problem now being tje DUP are effectively in bed with the Government, so how can they remain impartial. Could the answer not be, simply send somebody else to mediate, maybe her majesties opposition or have another outside government come in and mediate with the Irish to get Stormont. Just makes it harder with the DUP now working with the Tories. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 8:10 pm)MrFozz wrote The problem as I understand it is this... The real problem comes if Stormont don't get back on track. If that happens, then all the devolved NI assembly responsibilities go back to Westminster. DUP would love that outcome, anyhow, but it wouldn't be in any way satisfactory for Sinn Fein. So that situation could end up with everyone back at square one, anyhow, but now DUP hold the balance of power at Westminster and the Conservatives will be doing everything they can to keep them onside. The fact that such a high proportion of the NI population still votes along sectarian lines, regardless of the various regressive policies both the main parties have (Sinn Fein are actually socially more moderate than DUP as Ireland is socially more liberal than NI) and regardless of the push for more progressive party politics from some small groups (eg the Alliance party, who are affiliated with the lib dems) illustrates how so many people simply are not ready to let go and move on. There is still too much pain and there are probably still people alive who were born before the original, 1920, Bloody Sunday any many many others will be steeped in that history via their own parents and grandparents who will have been there, at the time. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - James101 - 10 Jun 2017 (09 Jun 2017, 10:05 am)LeeCalder wrote Wouldn't be happy with the DUP to be honest, very, very controversial. They have insisted on blocking equal marriage rights consistently for the last five years in Northern Ireland. There's a few Question Time clips online of various DUP represtatives getting eaten alive on this issue. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 10 Jun 2017 DUP are now saying a deal has not been done yet and talks are ongoing... Sounds like a clusterf**k coming out of No.10 atm Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Deals are done...then there not, seems like Theresa Mays position is becoming more untenable by the hour... Seems clear to me, I would not trust her to take care of a dog right now, never mind a country. It pains me to say so and I am in mo way a supporter of the Labour Party, I am warming more to Jeremy Corbyn, and I believe right now, he is the only man capable of running the country Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Jamie M - 10 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 11:37 pm)MrFozz wrote DUP are now saying a deal has not been done yet and talks are ongoing...I agree with everything you say, entirely. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 11 Jun 2017 (10 Jun 2017, 11:37 pm)MrFozz wrote DUP are now saying a deal has not been done yet and talks are ongoing... Yes, I've never quite been sure of him and I certainly don't agree with everything he says, but there is something rather zen and steadfast about him. And he can eat food without looking awkward! RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 05 Jul 2017 I'd always thought that Guy Opperman was a bit of a git, but this sums him up for me - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/shame-you-fury-tory-minister-10744548 Robbed blindly by the Government in broad daylight, then having an Apprenticeship suggested to you, in order to go someway to filling that gap left behind. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 30 Jul 2017 https://twitter.com/Redlabour2016/status/891044366457942021 Poor Phil! RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 31 Jul 2017 (30 Jul 2017, 7:59 pm)Adrian wrote https://twitter.com/Redlabour2016/status/891044366457942021 The comments are ace. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him. He burnt his bridges with me a while back. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 07 Sep 2017 So, we have a local council election coming up. We've heard from the first candidate - Maurice Brown. Lives in the ward and stand for "local jobs, for local people". He clearly believes strongly in this principle because it's stated in bold type on the glossy leaflet he had printed in Southend-on-sea. RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 18 Sep 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-labour-manifesto-renationalisation-rail-energy-banks-europe-a7731961.html An interesting read. |