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RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - GNE6312 - 07 Sep 2021 X30 GNE is an Express for deffinate, 40 odd minutes Newcastle to Stanley is good, after sunniside it's the way you'd get directed by Google maps in the car, and even up to there its a direct route. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Andreos1 - 07 Sep 2021 (07 Sep 2021, 5:23 pm)Storx wrote Aye I know what you mean, I know it does Quorum etc but it's definitely an express from Quorum to Newcastle imo and it's probably worth it for that alone and made much more sense when it was branded as the Quorum Express rather than the current Max. It's quite express between Burradon and Quorum aswell running direct via the A1056 / A189 rather than through West Moor / Killingworth even known it's quicker that way at rush hour but still. There's not much express about those routes. Particularly since the last lot of revisions. Made a conscious effort to get an X3 a few months back, just to see what the new route was like. Never again. (07 Sep 2021, 5:45 pm)Train8261 wrote Looking at what it says for X Lines Depending where you are in the town or need to be in the town, a metro and 4 to/from the Galleries can be quicker than the X1. As an example, I've missed an X1 from Eldon Square a few times on an evening. Rather than wait half an hour, I've jumped on the Metro at Haymarket, connected to a 4 at Heworth and got to the Galleries at the same time as the X1 I missed. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - streetdeckfan - 07 Sep 2021 (07 Sep 2021, 7:27 pm)Andreos1 wrote There's not much express about those routes. Particularly since the last lot of revisions. If we actually had an integrated public transport network, I'd agree with you there. But with the way things are at the minute, that's like comparing a National Express coach to a Train. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Andreos1 - 07 Sep 2021 (07 Sep 2021, 7:34 pm)streetdeckfan wrote If we actually had an integrated public transport network, I'd agree with you there. But with the way things are at the minute, that's like comparing a National Express coach to a Train. Not sure what there is to agree or disagree with. Everything I said is a fact. It has happened a number of times over the years. Sometimes I've stopped on the 4, other times I've changed on to the X1. About 21/22 years ago, I had been in the town with some mates for the day. They went to Eldon Square to get a Houghton express. Having had enough social interaction for the day and fancying a bit of a grice, I got a 58 to Heworth and then a 194. Jumped on the X94 at the Galleries and bumped in to my mates. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Rapidsnap - 07 Sep 2021 Maybe the X on some X-Lines routes stand for X-Lines rather then Express RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Train8261 - 07 Sep 2021 Hasn't it been mentioned X Lines is just a fast link route and is a High Spec type of bus New seats Next stop USB WIFI High Back seats (I think is the other) Some other routes have similar ones Connection 4 has new seats, wifi and next stop but no USB Durham Diamond has new seats, wifi and next stop but no USB Cobalt & Coast and Coaster have Wifi, Next stop & USB but no new seats. Just to name a few RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - streetdeckfan - 07 Sep 2021 (07 Sep 2021, 11:00 pm)Train8261 wrote Hasn't it been mentioned X Lines is just a fast link route and is a High Spec type of bus I believe it's already been mentioned on here that Durham Diamond B5s have had USBs installed The Cobalt B9s did have their seats reupholstered into leather when they were refurbed a couple years back, so are as 'new' as the Angels/X21 B5s RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Rob44 - 08 Sep 2021 (07 Sep 2021, 7:39 pm)Andreos1 wrote Not sure what there is to agree or disagree with. After a day at whitley bay my mate jumped on the 44 back to Hazlerigg and I decided to jump on the metro to South gosforth then the metro to regent centre. Got there 5 minutes before the same 44 pulled in and one of my mates had met a lass on the bus. They went out and are still together now! RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Andreos1 - 08 Sep 2021 (08 Sep 2021, 7:08 am)Rob44 wrote After a day at whitley bay my mate jumped on the 44 back to Hazlerigg and I decided to jump on the metro to South gosforth then the metro to regent centre. Got there 5 minutes before the same 44 pulled in and one of my mates had met a lass on the bus. They went out and are still together now! Has he been taking tips from Keith? https://metro.co.uk/2015/03/31/father-29-with-15-kids-by-10-women-costing-taxpayer-2million-has-baby-16-on-the-way-5129135/ RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - L469 YVK - 08 Sep 2021 (08 Sep 2021, 7:08 am)Rob44 wrote After a day at whitley bay my mate jumped on the 44 back to Hazlerigg and I decided to jump on the metro to South gosforth then the metro to regent centre. Got there 5 minutes before the same 44 pulled in and one of my mates had met a lass on the bus. They went out and are still together now!I miss the 44 ![]() Would've worked if Arriva renumbered to X38, ditched Marden and had it Blyth - Billy Mill then limited stop to Newcastle. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - ian foster - 09 Sep 2021 (08 Sep 2021, 5:30 pm)L469 YVK wrote I miss the 44I too miss the 44. Service offered to Marden is worse than useless. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Keeiajs - 05 Dec 2021 I know 3x E400's were orginally bought, but why only 3? Also there were going to be 31x Streetlites what were the plans for them. When did the other E400's get bought. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - peter - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 12:31 am)Keeiajs wrote I know 3x E400's were orginally bought, but why only 3? If I remember correctly, the 3 original E400's were for the X30 cause they needed to be low-height. Then the Streetdecks were bought for the X45/46/47, X31 and X70/71. The remaining E400's were bought for the X1. Because of COVID 9 of the Streetdecks were re-directed elsewhere. Then the E400's were reallocated to Consett to allow the X30/31/70/71 to interwork with the Streetdecks going on the X1 and the X45/6. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Storx - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 1:38 pm)peter wrote If I remember correctly, the 3 original E400's were for the X30 cause they needed to be low-height. Then the Streetdecks were bought for the X45/46/47, X31 and X70/71. The remaining E400's were bought for the X1. Because of COVID 9 of the Streetdecks were re-directed elsewhere. Then the E400's were reallocated to Consett to allow the X30/31/70/71 to interwork with the Streetdecks going on the X1 and the X45/6. Wasn't it originally (I could be wrong): X1 - Enviro 400 X9/X10 - Streetdeck X21 - Streetdeck complimenting 6301 - 6307 X30/X31 - Enviro 400 X45/X46/X47 - Streetdeck X70/X71 - Streetdeck X5/X15/X84/X85 - Unknown (B5's maybe?) 21 - 6331 - 6333 RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - streetdeckfan - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 2:04 pm)Storx wrote Wasn't it originally (I could be wrong): Weren't they leaning towards the Scania E400 for the X9/X10, but they were waiting for a demo vehicle to become available as they were in high demand? We were supposed to get a couple of the new StreetDecks for the X21, but I'm guessing my perpetual moaning about having THREE different interior specs put them off, and we ended up getting the X9/X10 cast offs instead (which I'm mostly over now, either they're getting better, or my standards are dropping). RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Storx - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 2:31 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Weren't they leaning towards the Scania E400 for the X9/X10, but they were waiting for a demo vehicle to become available as they were in high demand? Honestly not too sure I could be wrong with the X9/X10 order but I always thought they swapped them for the coaches pretty much. Streetdecks on the X9/X10 would be awful mind, I could be wrong though. First time you haven't moaned about the X21 ![]() RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - streetdeckfan - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 3:07 pm)Storx wrote Honestly not too sure I could be wrong with the X9/X10 order but I always thought they swapped them for the coaches pretty much. Streetdecks on the X9/X10 would be awful mind, I could be wrong though. IIRC, the X9/X10 wasn't even going to get an upgrade for a few years, it was only because Oxford wanted rid of some coaches and wanted some StreetDecks that it ended up getting an upgrade early. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Keeiajs - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 3:21 pm)streetdeckfan wrote IIRC, the X9/X10 wasn't even going to get an upgrade for a few years, it was only because Oxford wanted rid of some coaches and wanted some StreetDecks that it ended up getting an upgrade early.Tbh I think GNE got the bad end of that trade. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - Storx - 05 Dec 2021 (05 Dec 2021, 3:21 pm)streetdeckfan wrote IIRC, the X9/X10 wasn't even going to get an upgrade for a few years, it was only because Oxford wanted rid of some coaches and wanted some StreetDecks that it ended up getting an upgrade early. Aye now that you said it your right actually, remember now. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - L469 YVK - 05 Dec 2021 The initial XLines order was: X1 - 14x E400MMC X21 - 4x additional StreetDeck (when Durham - Newcastle was every 15 mins) X30 - 3x existing MMC + 1x additional MMC X31/X45/X46 - 13x StreetDeck X47/X70/X71 - 9x StreetDeck The above doesn't factor in any spares ordered. X9/X10 was in the pipeline for a future heavyweight decker order and the B5TLs would've probably ended up on the X84/X85. However, when COVID hit: - Coaches were available for X9/X10 from Oxford. - X30's / X70's needed a more efficient interworking pattern (meaning low height deckers = E400MMC) - Oxford needed some StreetDecks. Therefore, 9x StreetDecks were sent to Oxford. In return, GNE got the 7x Volvo interdeck coaches meaning that 6308-14 could be displaced onto the X21 alongside 6335/36 freeing up more StreetDecks to make up for the ones lost to Oxford. They predominantly ended up on the X5/X15, X45/X46 and also some spares for CLS. Since the, 6301-07 have been split between CLS & Washington to ensure there's enough Euro 6 spares. The E400MMCs, ended up on on the X47/X70/X71 as an interim measure but all 11x have now formed the new X30's/X70's interworking pattern. The other 4x out of the original 15x were then sent to Hexham providing an upgrade to the X84/X85. In turn, out of the 21x StreetDecks (not including 6377) Consett got 8x for the X45/X46 with Washington getting 13x for the X1. RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - JP6004 - 14 Dec 2021 Still no sign of the B5H Xlines entering service? RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - streetdeckfan - 14 Dec 2021 (14 Dec 2021, 3:00 pm)JP6004 wrote Still no sign of the B5H Xlines entering service? I wonder if it has something to do with them changing the seating layout to add tables. Don't they have to be rechecked by *insert government agency acronym here* RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - JP6004 - 14 Dec 2021 (14 Dec 2021, 3:18 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I wonder if it has something to do with them changing the seating layout to add tables. Don't they have to be rechecked by *insert government agency acronym here*Thought they were already done. Doubt they would be as B9s on 309 didnt when they were fitted...did they? RE: New StreetDecks & ADL Enviro400s - X-lines fleet changes - streetdeckfan - 14 Dec 2021 (14 Dec 2021, 3:20 pm)JP6004 wrote Thought they were already done. Doubt they would be as B9s on 309 didnt when they were fitted...did they? They were sent away to get done whereas the B5Hs were done in house (I believe anyway). That's the only reason I can think of that they aren't already out in service when the rest of the batch are, I think it's the only thing that was done differently |