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RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - citaro5284 - 06 May 2020

David Urquhart ceases trading

https://www.davidurquhart.com/


Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - TEN 6083 - 06 May 2020

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/boris-johnson-set-reveal-changes-18209963

Boris Johnson set to reveal changes to coronavirus lockdown restrictions taking effect from Monday

Wonder if this will affect public transport

(Admins: Please move to appropriate thread if this is posted into the wrong one)

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RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - James101 - 06 May 2020

Article suggests Tees Flex has taken on a secondary role as standby passenger transport services (final line):

https://www.transportxtra.com/publications/local-transport-today/news/65121/stagecoach-sets-out-strategy-to-cope-with-bus-use-collapse/


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - BusLoverMum - 06 May 2020

I suspect that the first lift in restrictions will be in shops allowed to trade, businesses that can operate with social distancing in place and ability to visit family. Apart from people getting to work, I can't see much change for public transport use.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Michael - 08 May 2020

This is what Stagecoach bosses think will be the 'new normal' as company plans for post-lockdown travel
A six-point plan has been drawn up by bus company Stagecoach over the future of services as the Government looks to outline how the country’s coronavirus restrictions will be eased.


https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/transport/what-stagecoach-bosses-think-will-be-new-normal-company-plans-post-lockdown-travel-2845011


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Michael - 11 May 2020

The document has now been released about how we will come out of lockdown after Boris addressed the nation!


OUR PLAN TO REBUILD: The UK Government’s COVID-19 recovery strategy


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/884171/FINAL_6.6637_CO_HMG_C19_Recovery_FINAL_110520_v2_WEB__1_.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2cMN3PMMN9zhDOmrUMSbdNN2zcqmvqTADl9p8jUdEPCGkCyoQzMkcm66Y


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - S813 FVK - 11 May 2020

Further to the guidance contained in the document above, the Transport Secretary is scheduled to make a statement in the Commons tomorrow.

Can't imagine there being too much development on what we have heard/seen already, but will allow the measures in place to be scrutinised by MPs.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - tyresmoke - 11 May 2020

(11 May 2020, 2:08 pm)S813 FVK wrote Further to the guidance contained in the document above, the Transport Secretary is scheduled to make a statement in the Commons tomorrow.

Can't imagine there being too much development on what we have heard/seen already, but will allow the measures in place to be scrutinised by MPs.
Mention of making transport services "Covid secure" which should be detailed tomorrow. Mention of going back to pre-Covid schedules 'as soon as possible' too presumably to provide enough capacity for those travelling. Would have to be huge revenue support to do that.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Rob44 - 12 May 2020

from bbc news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52621747


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Rob44 - 13 May 2020

another interesting artical

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52646034


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Michael - 20 May 2020

Optare have started the process of re-opening the business with new policies and procedures in place to make a safe working environment for our colleagues.

https://twitter.com/Optaregroup/status/1263050235007418368


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - streetdeckfan - 21 May 2020

Looks like Wrightbus are cutting 125 jobs due to Corona.

90 of those are agency workers so they're only really 'laying off' 35 employees. 
I find it a bit odd that they're not just furloughing the 35 but making them redundant, and I suppose those agency workers will still be able to get furloughed by the agency they work for.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52759676


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Storx - 22 May 2020

(21 May 2020, 10:15 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Looks like Wrightbus are cutting 125 jobs due to Corona.

90 of those are agency workers so they're only really 'laying off' 35 employees. 
I find it a bit odd that they're not just furloughing the 35 but making them redundant, and I suppose those agency workers will still be able to get furloughed by the agency they work for.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52759676

Imagine it's more because of lack of orders etc so there isn't any need for them in the future. No point furloughing someone one if your going to just lay them off at the end anyway.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - streetdeckfan - 22 May 2020

(22 May 2020, 10:51 am)Storx wrote Imagine it's more because of lack of orders etc so there isn't any need for them in the future. No point furloughing someone one if your going to just lay them off at the end anyway.

But you might as well take advantage of the fact the government will pay 80% of the wages. It's a win-win for the company and the employee. At least if they tell them they'll lay them off once the furlough scheme ends, they can look for other work in the mean time, or even start another job now and get both wages


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Dan - 22 May 2020

(22 May 2020, 10:54 am)streetdeckfan wrote But you might as well take advantage of the fact the government will pay 80% of the wages. It's a win-win for the company and the employee. At least if they tell them they'll lay them off once the furlough scheme ends, they can look for other work in the mean time, or even start another job now and get both wages

That's what they probably are doing:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/04/employed-help-coronavirus-furlough/


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - citaro5284 - 23 May 2020

Transport Secretary announces new measures to “keep passengers safe now and level up for the future”

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/transport-secretary-announces-new-measures-to-keep-passengers-safe-now-and-level-up-for-the-future


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - James101 - 12 Jun 2020

Bus company’s social media posts regarding face coverings seem to have gone down like a cup of cold sick. Wonder how many drivers are going to see passengers flick out their cigarettes as the bus pulls up only to be presented with the list of breathing illnesses they suffer from to be exempt.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Andreos1 - 12 Jun 2020

(12 Jun 2020, 8:53 pm)James101 wrote Bus company’s social media posts regarding face coverings seem to have gone down like a cup of cold sick. Wonder how many drivers are going to see passengers flick out their cigarettes as the bus pulls up only to be presented with the list of breathing illnesses they suffer from to be exempt.

I genuinely feel sorry for the front line, customer facing staff. Being paid a pitance, yet having that responsibility placed upon them - on top of all of the other responsibilities that they have.

Genuinely expecting the 'the bus didn't stop' complaints to go through the roof over the next week or two.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Charles41 - 13 Jun 2020

I drove past National Holidays' garage at Washington yesterday afternoon. The garage was completely empty. Last time I passed in March there were approximately fifty coaches crammed into the yard. Its a real shame to see the end of this company, the holidays were excellent value.

Charles


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - idiot - 13 Jun 2020

I cycled past a fortnight ago or so Charles and there was about 30 coaches there


Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - TEN 6083 - 18 Jun 2020

(12 Jun 2020, 8:53 pm)James101 wrote Bus company’s social media posts regarding face coverings seem to have gone down like a cup of cold sick. Wonder how many drivers are going to see passengers flick out their cigarettes as the bus pulls up only to be presented with the list of breathing illnesses they suffer from to be exempt.


Noticed a few passengers earlier when I was out not using them (some had them pulled down to their chin) when went out for a bit of spotting (I was using the car to get about)


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RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Andreos1 - 18 Jun 2020

(18 Jun 2020, 2:11 am)TEN 6083 wrote Noticed a few passengers earlier when I was out not using them ( some had them pulled down to their chin ) when went out for a bit of spotting (I was using the car to get about)


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*just saying*


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RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - streetdeckfan - 18 Jun 2020

I was out and about today and I was surprised by the amount of people who weren't wearing a mask properly, or simply took them off once they got to their seat. What makes me laugh the most is the people who will pull them down when they talk

As an asthmatic I can understand why some people can't wear them (I tried today and after about 5 minutes I had to take it off), but I'd imagine there are some people who will lie just to get out of wearing them


Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - TEN 6083 - 19 Jun 2020

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18525140.cant-make-passengers-wear-masks-buses-says-stagecoach/


We can't make passengers wear masks on buses, says Stagecoach


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RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - streetdeckfan - 19 Jun 2020

(19 Jun 2020, 12:21 am)TEN 6083 wrote https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18525140.cant-make-passengers-wear-masks-buses-says-stagecoach/


We can't make passengers wear masks on buses, says Stagecoach


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Well, they can.
It's a condition of travel, if you don't wear a face covering you don't get on. Simple as (unless you've got a valid reason)

Them saying they can't enforce it is like them saying they can't enforce passengers paying for their fares. I bet if someone just walked on the bus and sat down they wouldn't think twice before enforcing that condition of travel!


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - BusLoverMum - 20 Jun 2020

I do see aot of chin hammocks, out and about.

It's the hour each wY on a hot angel with a mask that deters me from a visit to Fenwick, at the moment.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - streetdeckfan - 20 Jun 2020

(20 Jun 2020, 11:07 pm)BusLoverMum wrote I do see aot of chin hammocks, out  and about.

It's the hour each wY on a hot angel with a mask that deters me from a visit to Fenwick, at the moment.

I actually find the air conditioning on the StreetDecks to be extremely good, especially with the buses as empty as they are. Last year when it was really warm I got the X21 just to cool down before I bought my AC unit for the house.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - Stanleyone - 21 Jun 2020

(19 Jun 2020, 1:26 am)streetdeckfan wrote Well, they can.
It's a condition of travel, if you don't wear a face covering you don't get on. Simple as (unless you've got a valid reason)

Them saying they can't enforce it is like them saying they can't enforce passengers paying for their fares. I bet if someone just walked on the bus and sat down they wouldn't think twice before enforcing that condition of travel!
We can't enforce them, we're not police. We advise and remind them of the rules. I believe it was added to public health guidance but not conditions of carriage which makes all the difference. You'll probably not be surprised at those thinking it's ok to have a face covering on at boarding then take it off once seated.


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - streetdeckfan - 21 Jun 2020

(21 Jun 2020, 4:36 am)Stanleyone wrote We can't enforce them, we're not police. We advise and remind them of the rules. I believe it was added to public health guidance but not conditions of carriage which makes all the difference. You'll probably not be surprised at those thinking it's ok to have a face covering on at boarding then take it off once seated.

Going back watching the announcement, the transport secretary said "So, when more people return to the network, from 15 June onwards, they will be required to wear a face covering on our transport network. We’ll make these rules changes under the National Rail Conditions of Travel and the Public Service Vehicle Regulations for buses. This will mean you can be refused travel if you don’t comply and could be fined."
So the operators have every right to refuse travel to people who aren't wearing it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/transport-secretarys-statement-on-coronavirus-covid-19-4-june-2020

I believe it was also said during the questions that operators should add it to their own conditions of carriage, although I can't be bothered to sit through the whole thing to find the exact quote!


RE: Coronavirus and the public transport industry. - deanmachine - 21 Jun 2020

(21 Jun 2020, 2:13 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Going back watching the announcement, the transport secretary said "So, when more people return to the network, from 15 June onwards, they will be required to wear a face covering on our transport network. We’ll make these rules changes under the National Rail Conditions of Travel and the Public Service Vehicle Regulations for buses. This will mean you can be refused travel if you don’t comply and could be fined."
So the operators have every right to refuse travel to people who aren't wearing it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/transport-secretarys-statement-on-coronavirus-covid-19-4-june-2020

I believe it was also said during the questions that operators should add it to their own conditions of carriage, although I can't be bothered to sit through the whole thing to find the exact quote!

They may have said that, but they've given them no powers to enforce it, and I don't think they've actually told anybody else with the correct powers (council or police) to enforce it either.