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RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - tyresmoke - 02 Sep 2014

(02 Sep 2014, 9:23 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Appreciate that, but thought they would have been in better nick than some of the existing ANE stock.
Saying that, if they are in decent nick, then they can get a few quid for them.

No need for them in the ANE fleet really, come the end of 2014 the only minibuses we will have will be the 05 plate MPDs and a bunch of Solos. And even then that's too many!


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Andy - 03 Sep 2014

What will be happening with all of the coaches? Will jim hughes get them ?


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - nk55 - 04 Sep 2014

(03 Sep 2014, 7:49 pm)Andy wrote What will be happening with all of the coaches? Will jim hughes get them ?

Wouldn't be surprised to see classic vehicles move to jh coaches when operations are finally wound up, seen as the md is john shipley (classic md ian shipleys son).


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - BUSFAN - 05 Sep 2014

Is Classic winding up sorry if i have misread the last few posts but by the sounds of things it seems that way


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Roland Pratt - 06 Sep 2014

(02 Sep 2014, 9:26 pm)tyresmoke wrote No need for them in the ANE fleet really, come the end of 2014 the only minibuses we will have will be the 05 plate MPDs and a bunch of Solos. And even then that's too many!

What about 1101-5?


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Philly rf - 06 Sep 2014

It might be best that they do sent minibuses to ane because it will release some of the elderly minibuses for scrap


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Jimmi - 16 Sep 2014

On VOSA today.

PB1092907/1 - TGM GROUP LIMITED, BUILDING 16300 MT2, EAGLE ROAD, LONDON HEATHROW AIRPORT, HOUNSLOW, TW6 2DN
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Blackpool given service number 352 effective from 02-Nov-2014.

2. PB1092907/25 - TGM GROUP LIMITED, BUILDING 16300 MT2, EAGLE ROAD, LONDON HEATHROW AIRPORT, HOUNSLOW, TW6 2DN
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Seaham, Mill Bank and Durham, Gilesgate given service number 365 effective from 30-Oct-2014.

3. PB1092907/26 - TGM GROUP LIMITED, BUILDING 16300 MT2, EAGLE ROAD, LONDON HEATHROW AIRPORT, HOUNSLOW, TW6 2DN
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stanley Post Office and Gilesgate, Mill Lane given service number 367 effective from 30-Oct-2014.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - citaro5284 - 01 Oct 2014

Northern Echo is reporting 42 staff have been made redundant.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/news/11506552.Bus_company_makes_redundancies/?ref=mr


Re: RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Adrian - 01 Oct 2014

(01 Oct 2014, 6:00 pm)citaro5284 wrote Northern Echo is reporting 42 staff have been made redundant.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/news/11506552.Bus_company_makes_redundancies/?ref=mr
Something I've never thought about before, but certainly related. If say Operator A ran a contract for Nexus with a PVR of 4. If Operator B then won that work from Nexus, would TUPE apply for the 4 staff required to drive that contract?


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - citaro5284 - 01 Oct 2014

(01 Oct 2014, 6:52 pm)aureolin wrote Something I've never thought about before, but certainly related. If say Operator A ran a contract for Nexus with a PVR of 4. If Operator B then won that work from Nexus, would TUPE apply for the 4 staff required to drive that contract?

When GNE won the Quaylink contract, the Stagecoach staff were Tupe'd across.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Andreos1 - 01 Oct 2014

It mentions the transfer of staff on the scholars work and others into Arriva, so guessing TUPE has applied in some cases.

Obviously there are those who have chosen to take redundancy and those who were made redundant.
Guessing there are some roles at Classic, that don't fit into the Arriva model too, like those staff who took bookings for holidays.

Hopefully staff can pool together to maybe set up a new operator...


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - RM2186 - 01 Oct 2014

Or maybe find employment within the recently expanded Jim Hughes operation!


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - nk55 - 02 Oct 2014

Such a shame a great company has been sent to the wall. First the asset stripping by tellings and penny pinching by arriva. Feel for those i used to work with.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - BUSFAN - 02 Oct 2014

(02 Oct 2014, 4:31 am)nk55 wrote Such a shame a great company has been sent to the wall. First the asset stripping by tellings and penny pinching by arriva. Feel for those i used to work with.

I never thought Classic would cease trading as i can recall not too long ago when it was the premier North East Coach operator and also a major Bus service provider but that was when it was a independent with the slogan no part of the Northern Group this was in the days of the Classicliner to rival Northern and its superliner.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Andy - 02 Oct 2014

A lot of coach drivers were transferred to Jim Hughes as I've seen then and recognised them


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - nk55 - 02 Oct 2014

Yes i've seen a few former classic employees with jh coaches and arriva ( jesmond & durham ), will say when tgm took the vast majority of the skiplan & pgl work years ago and not forgetting the new coaches, then tgm lost the contracts ( not surprising in them days), classic were never going to be as good as they once were. Just hope jh coaches can be a good replacement.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Dan - 18 Oct 2014

Classic Coaches · 19 hrs ·
Following the closure of the TGM North East depot in Annfield Plain we are pleased to confirm that on the 1st October 2014 Classic Coaches has joined with JH Coaches. JH Coaches is owned by the Shipley family who were the original founders of Classic Coaches way back in 1983, so once again we are family owned.
Both companies are moving to a new depot in Birtley in the next two weeks. We will post the new contact details soon.
Our Day Trip and Blackpool Express programmes will continue to operate as normal until the end of their current brochures (2014) We are currently working on the Day Trip and Blackpool Express progams for 2015.
Thank you for supporting Classic Coaches and we hope you will continue to do so in the future.

..and vehicles are now starting to appear on eBay too:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-SCANIA-IRIZAR-NEW-CENTURY-TRI-AXEL-13-75M-59-SEATER-/261626932436?pt=UK_Minibuses_Buses_Coaches&hash=item3cea2e2cd4


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - nk55 - 20 Oct 2014

(18 Oct 2014, 10:32 am)Dan wrote ..and vehicles are now starting to appear on eBay too:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-SCANIA-IRIZAR-NEW-CENTURY-TRI-AXEL-13-75M-59-SEATER-/261626932436?pt=UK_Minibuses_Buses_Coaches&hash=item3cea2e2cd4

Great to see that the essence of classic will be continued by jh coaches, hopefully we'll see an expansion rather than a contraction as seen under the tgm & arriva days.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - LeeCalder - 29 Dec 2014

I'm looking for the Classic Buses timetable for the 23 or 23/23A if anybody has it available? Also the 184?


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - Andy - 30 Dec 2014

(29 Dec 2014, 8:38 pm)leestransportphotos wrote I'm looking for the Classic Buses timetable for the 23 or 23/23A if anybody has it available? Also the 184?

Classic seized trading in September


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - LeeCalder - 30 Dec 2014

I know Classic operated the 23 about 4 years ago. Not recently.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - S813 FVK - 30 Dec 2014

Since Classic have ceased all operations and have completely cleared their Annfield Plain depot, there is still the caravans storage section (which they own). Not 1 person who has a caravan (or trailer for general use/business use) has been told what is happening whether they should be thinking about moving or whether another company has purchased the site. Very poor service.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - JHCoaches - 30 Dec 2014

Robert,
This information is factually incorrect... The site is owned by Arriva not Classic. We have not owned the site since October 2004, all contact regarding the site should be referred to John Stokoe - Property Manager, Arriva, Doxford Park, Sunderland, Tyne & Wear.


RE: Classic Coaches/TGM Group - S813 FVK - 01 Jan 2015

(30 Dec 2014, 5:19 pm)JHCoaches wrote Robert,
This information is factually incorrect... The site is owned by Arriva not Classic.  We have not owned the site since October 2004, all contact regarding the site should be referred to John Stokoe - Property Manager, Arriva, Doxford Park, Sunderland, Tyne & Wear.
Yet if you look onto the gate it says 'Welcome to TGM Classic Newcastle Depot' and nothing about arriva owning the piece of land and all negotiations were done through classic themselves without any form of communication with arriva themselves post 2004.