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RE: Howard Snaiths - S813 FVK - 12 Jul 2015 (12 Jul 2015, 2:52 pm)R852 PRG wrote Seeing as those vehicles operate a service that goes to Newcastle, I'd say it's fair to assume so. I reckon the tyres that Citaro5284 has on his Seat have India on them. Doesn't mean he is going there ![]() Fairly logical point to make though for that to heppen. They would either go NIS (PM journey) or go onto an X84/5 (AM) RE: Howard Snaiths - Tom - 12 Jul 2015 (12 Jul 2015, 2:56 pm)S813 FVK wrote I reckon the tyres that Citaro5284 has on his Seat have India on them. Doesn't mean he is going there And the last X85 will no longer serve Highford Park so it makes sense. Howard Snaiths - R852 PRG - 12 Jul 2015 (12 Jul 2015, 2:56 pm)S813 FVK wrote I reckon the tyres that Citaro5284 has on his Seat have India on them. Doesn't mean he is going there You never fail to amuse me! ![]() RE: Howard Snaiths - citaro5284 - 12 Jul 2015 (12 Jul 2015, 2:52 pm)R852 PRG wrote Seeing as those vehicles operate a service that goes to Newcastle, I'd say it's fair to assume so. (12 Jul 2015, 2:59 pm)Tom wrote And the last X85 will no longer serve Highford Park so it makes sense. Tell you...you's lot, makes Columbo look like an amateur ![]() RE: Howard Snaiths - S813 FVK - 12 Jul 2015 (12 Jul 2015, 3:00 pm)R852 PRG wrote You never fail to amuse me! Don't tell me you have never heard that one before! You never fail to disappoint me ![]() RE: Howard Snaiths - G-CPTN - 15 Jul 2015 Can anyone summarise the services that will remain with Howard Snaith? I have seen (today, Wednesday 15th) a small (midi) coach in Snaith livery heading out of Hexham with an 880 sign in the windscreen at 18:15 or thereabouts. I understand that GNE will take over the 880 (via PCL) between Bellingham and Kielder (not serving Hexham except by connecting service 680 from 3rd August. My sightings of the Snaith coach doesn't seem to fit in with any existing timetable. Have all of Snaith's PSV contracts been removed? (along with school contracts?) If so, will HS survive on private hire alone? RE: Howard Snaiths - G-CPTN - 17 Jul 2015 According to today's Hexham Courant, some of the HS routes taken over by GNE are on a 'trial only' basis - if they don't prove to be viable they will be discontinued. Other routes are significantly reduced (in frequency). RE: Howard Snaiths - Tom - 17 Jul 2015 (17 Jul 2015, 3:20 pm)G-CPTN wrote According to today's Hexham Courant, some of the HS routes taken over by GNE are on a 'trial only' basis - if they don't prove to be viable they will be discontinued. That's great if that is true! Well done GNE, hope everyone is going to give the services a try that can. RE: Howard Snaiths - buss14 - 17 Jul 2015 (17 Jul 2015, 3:29 pm)Tom wrote That's great if that is true! does that include school routes as well or not ? RE: Howard Snaiths - G-CPTN - 17 Jul 2015 (17 Jul 2015, 6:05 pm)buss14 wrote does that include school routes as well or not ? Probably not, though school routes have been 'shortened' with pupils being expected to walk up to one mile to a 'central' pick-up point rather than being collected from their homes. RE: Howard Snaiths - chrisnorthern - 17 Jul 2015 (17 Jul 2015, 3:20 pm)G-CPTN wrote According to today's Hexham Courant, some of the HS routes taken over by GNE are on a 'trial only' basis - if they don't prove to be viable they will be discontinued. Link to the Hexham Courant report: http://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/Mixed-bag-in-new-bus-services-c76dc967-57ff-4341-8b7c-35011256ef18-ds If I've read it correctly (and if the report is accurate!) I'd say only the Colwell service is to be evaluated in October not the "main" Bellingham route. RE: Howard Snaiths - G-CPTN - 03 Aug 2015 What happens now? I think we should be told . . . RE: Howard Snaiths - busmanT - 04 Aug 2015 (03 Aug 2015, 11:04 pm)G-CPTN wrote What happens now?What is it that you want to know? RE: Howard Snaiths - G-CPTN - 04 Aug 2015 (04 Aug 2015, 6:05 am)busmanT wrote What is it that you want to know? Will Howard Snaith survive as a local bus operator, as a tour bus operator or as a private hire operator, as a taxi service or will they cease commercial operation? Have they lost their licences? The loss of what seemed to be the bulk of their local services probably means a significant reduction in drivers (and vehicles). The impact on employment in the North Tyne area must be detrimental. RE: Howard Snaiths - busmanT - 04 Aug 2015 (04 Aug 2015, 7:24 am)G-CPTN wrote Will Howard Snaith survive as a local bus operator, as a tour bus operator or as a private hire operator, as a taxi service or will they cease commercial operation? Have they lost their licences? Whether Howard Snaith survive will depend if the Traffic Commissioner takes action against their operators licence - there hasn't been anything on the VOSA website yet. RE: Howard Snaiths - busmanT - 04 Aug 2015 (17 Jul 2015, 8:14 pm)chrisnorthern wrote Link to the Hexham Courant report: http://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/Mixed-bag-in-new-bus-services-c76dc967-57ff-4341-8b7c-35011256ef18-ds Correct, the Bellingham service is a 5 year contract, but the Colwell contract only runs till early October. I am sure that the County Council will take all feedback into account when deciding what level of service they can afford to operate in the long term. RE: Howard Snaiths - NK53 TKT - 23 Aug 2015 I used to se the 79 and the 808 occasionally and when it ran the 879. I now avoid it at all costs RE: Howard Snaiths - buss14 - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:24 am)NK53 TKT wrote I used to se the 79 and the 808 occasionally and when it ran the 879. I now avoid it at all costs technically for howard snaith it will be a waiting game for them however if it comes to the worst they probably have to come up with a quick strategy. RE: Howard Snaiths - NK53 TKT - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:40 am)buss14 wrote technically for howard snaith it will be a waiting game for them however if it comes to the worst they probably have to come up with a quick strategy. I think they may be liquidized after the whole incident, in Newcastle Maynards now have a lot of their former business. RE: Howard Snaiths - buss14 - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:42 am)NK53 TKT wrote I think they may be liquidized after the whole incident, in Newcastle Maynards now have a lot of their former business. well i knew they had lost a vast quantity of their services, RE: Howard Snaiths - NK53 TKT - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:45 am)buss14 wrote well i knew they had lost a vast quantity of their services, The Hexham scholars have gone to GNE RE: Howard Snaiths - buss14 - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:46 am)NK53 TKT wrote The Hexham scholars have gone to GNE yes and PCL travel i think have the their morpeth run. is it the 79 or 808 that goes into morpeth. RE: Howard Snaiths - NK53 TKT - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:49 am)buss14 wrote yes and PCL travel i think have the their morpeth run. is it the 79 or 808 that goes into morpeth. The 79 goes Ponteland to Morpeth via Tranwell The 808 goes Elddon Square to Otterburn via Ponteland and Belsay RE: Howard Snaiths - buss14 - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:50 am)NK53 TKT wrote The 79 goes Ponteland to Morpeth via Tranwell thank you, i got confused but PCL are doing quite well with the service. there drivrs are friendly and they have a little minibus which seems to be suitable for the route. RE: Howard Snaiths - NK53 TKT - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:52 am)buss14 wrote thank you, i got confused but PCL are doing quite well with the service. there drivrs are friendly and they have a little minibus which seems to be suitable for the route. When I was last on the 79 I was alone with a 33 seat plaxton beaver, yet when I got off and got on the X14 to Regent Centre it as a crammed 29- seat MPD RE: Howard Snaiths - buss14 - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 9:54 am)NK53 TKT wrote When I was last on the 79 I was alone with a 33 seat plaxton beaver, yet when I got off and got on the X14 to Regent Centre it as a crammed 29- seat MPD is the 79 a contract service or is it a coucil funded service RE: Howard Snaiths - NK53 TKT - 23 Aug 2015 (23 Aug 2015, 10:00 am)buss14 wrote is the 79 a contract service or is it a coucil funded service Council funded I think RE: Howard Snaiths - GuyParkRoyal - 04 Sep 2015 Here is the full list of cancellations for Howard Snaith. Section 3.6 – Cancellations of Existing Services Granted Under Short Notice PB1065121/73 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Haydon Bridge given service number 442 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/52 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Bellingham given service number 915 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/50 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between West Sleekburn and Alnwick given service number 191 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/44 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between West Sleekburn and Alnwick given service number X19 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/59 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Bellingham/Colwell and Hexham given service number 880/882 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/2 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between West Sleekburn and West Sleekburn given service number 564 effective from 13-Aug-2015. 20 PB1065121/25 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Otterburn given service number 467 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/71 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Byrness and hexham given service number 883 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/53 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Bellingham given service number 447 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/65 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Hexham given service number 0420 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/72 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Otterburn given service number 915 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/74 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Alnwick and St Benet Biscop High School given service number 280 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/27 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Otterburn given service number 613 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/31 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Otterburn given service number 446 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/63 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between West Woodburn and West Woodburn given service number 0404 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/62 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Hexham and Hexham given service number 0456 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/64 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Chopwell, Leadgate cottage and Prudhoe given service number 4800 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/55 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Otterburn given service number 441 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/67 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Newton Hall and Hexham given service number 400 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/13 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Brunswick Industrial Estate and Brunswick Inductrial Estate given service number 48/48A effective from 13-Aug-2015. 21 PB1065121/29 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Otterburn given service number 808 effective from 13-Aug-2015. PB1065121/69 HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH, COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB Operating between Otterburn and Hexham Middle School given service number 406 effective from 13-Aug-2015. RE: Howard Snaiths - GuyParkRoyal - 04 Sep 2015 Details of Public Inquiries to be held in relation to Howard Snaith and Partners. Section 5.1 – Notice of Public Inquiries to be Held Public Inquiry (51122) to be held at Hillcrest House, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS, LS9 6NF, on 29 September 2015 commencing at 10:30(Previous Publication ![]() ) PB1065121 SI HOWARD JAMES SNAITH & PARTNERS T/A H J SNAITH Partner(s): SNAITH LIMITED HOWARD, HOWARD JAMES SNAITH. COACH HOUSE, OTTERBURN , NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE NE19 1HB PSV - S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981) PSV - Sch.3 - Consideration of Transport Managers Repute under Schedule 3 (The Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981) PSV - S28 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 28 (The Transport Act 1985) TM Public Inquiry (EpisodeId:4329 PublicInquiryId:2922) for HOWARD JAMES SNAITH to be held at Hillcrest House Hillcrest House 386 Harehills Lane Leeds LS9 6NF, on 29 September 2015 commencing at 10:30 (Previous Publication ![]() Article 6 of Regulation (EC) No 1071/2009 RE: Howard Snaiths - G-CPTN - 05 Sep 2015 So, that looks like cancellation of the schools contracts - and an 'invitation' to a judicial hearing.
I must say that this has taken a long time, and (whilst not prejudging the outcome) seems likely to be the end of Snaith 'bus' services.
I don't know the rules that regulate their private hire (tour) operations, but, if they act under Section 28:-
28 it could be pretty serious.
OTOH, Martin Oliver (and Hayton Coulhard) are 'back in business'.
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