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RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - ReDemPTiion - 31 Jan 2025
(31 Jan 2025, 10:22 pm)Ambassador wrote There was a non CAZ Citaro on the 29
Rather than do the right thing and pay the relatively small fee…Go Nowhere ran it short to Gateshead
Absolutely shameless
They’re done that a few times now. Shouldn’t be terminating a bus early just because of a clean air zone fine. I thought stagecoach were bad but go north east seem to be getting worse every day.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - omnicity4659 - 01 Feb 2025
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/report-a-bus-or-coach-service-or-driver#report-buses-arriving-late-early-not-stopping-or-not-turning-up
Please email the DVSA's intelligence unit regarding a deliberate failure to operate a registered service in full, a formal (and still anonymous) paper trail works better than forum posts!
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - lewisparker1509 - 01 Feb 2025
(31 Jan 2025, 11:07 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote They’re done that a few times now. Shouldn’t be terminating a bus early just because of a clean air zone fine. I thought stagecoach were bad but go north east seem to be getting worse every day.
At least Stagecoach were paying the fine and still sending buses through town regardless of the CAZ. I think this is also why some people misunderstand the rules of the CAZ, GNE terminate non compliant buses instead of paying a fine, making it seem to the un-trained eye that the bus is fully restricted from town; which most of us know isn't the case. I've had an argument with someone plenty of times because they can't seem to understand that under Euro 5 buses are allowed in the City Centre as long as they pay a charge.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - DeltaMan - 01 Feb 2025
(31 Jan 2025, 10:22 pm)Ambassador wrote There was a non CAZ Citaro on the 29
Rather than do the right thing and pay the relatively small fee…Go Nowhere ran it short to Gateshead
Absolutely shameless
Bustimes (usual caveats) shows it happening all day yesterday. Vehicle 5368.
That's bang to rights. I'd genuinely inform the traffic commissioner.
The CAZ is not a vehicle ban. There is no good reason why it shouldn't run to Newcastle.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - GuyParkRoyal - 01 Feb 2025
(09 Jan 2025, 8:57 am)ASX_Terranova wrote Is today the worst reliability weve seen out of washy depot?
(31 Jan 2025, 10:22 pm)Ambassador wrote There was a non CAZ Citaro on the 29
Rather than do the right thing and pay the relatively small fee…Go Nowhere ran it short to Gateshead
Absolutely shameless
This is typical of the poor service being provided by Washington. On Wednesday morning all 3 vehicles missing from the 34 resulting in no service on that route.
While Go North East have awarded Washington as their depot of the year 2024. Sorry but that award is insulting to all of Washington customers.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - citaro5284 - 01 Feb 2025
I blame Sunderland Council for using the wrong type of grit and salt in Washington......
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - citaro5284 - 01 Feb 2025
Jim Scott interviewing folk in Stanley now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ez3w2959lo
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 01 Feb 2025
(31 Jan 2025, 8:30 pm)garym67 wrote Enough now, how many times are you going to post this crap, surely you get the message by now no one agrees with you?
Believe me as someone who uses these services you hate so much I can tell you these buses are nowhere near the answer to your prayers.
Just as examples last week I was an an E400 on the X30 that was struggling so much I thought it was't going to get up Dunston bank, could have walked it quicker. The week before everytime the stop/start kicked in the bus gradually got less and less keen on restarting, to the point when it got to Sunniside we were on the verge of having to get off before the driver finally got it restarted. These are not isolated incidents, and the fact that a large number of services this week have be run by coast and county streetlites suggest a number of them have given up.
If they're going to change anything lets go back to X30 twice an hour and X31 twice an hour as before, personally I prefer it going via Whickham/Dunston as it gets into the right side of town, unlike the trip over the Tyne Bridge but if you give me the X30 back twice an hour you can do whatever you like with the X31/32.
I agree im very much sick of it now
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Aaron21 - 01 Feb 2025
(Yesterday, 9:03 am)Unber43 wrote I agree im very much sick of it now
Don't worry. He will move onto the Coast road & how the B9TL Gemini should move or the 22 should go to Hadrian Park
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 01 Feb 2025
(Yesterday, 9:30 am)Aaron21 wrote Don't worry. He will move onto the Coast road & how the B9TL Gemini should move or the 22 should go to Hadrian ParkAh yeah 6 weeks of that now.
I was just ignoring him hoping he would shut up, but i guess that wasn't going to be the case, and just to add the Angel 21 StreetDecks should go onto the 10/10A/10B or the 56.
309/310 are easy work and will probably get electric buses eventually. But also GNE need to buy atleast 130 buses due to the aging fleet.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - L469 YVK - 01 Feb 2025
(Yesterday, 9:30 am)Aaron21 wrote Don't worry. He will move onto the Coast road & how the B9TL Gemini should move or the 22 should go to Hadrian Park
Only reason I'm suggesting the Angel StreetDecks could end up on the Cobalts (and even the 56 to balance it out) is because of previous attempts back in 2014/15 to retrofit GKN flywheels on 6104 & 6085 as a trial in order to save fuel.
The 307 & 309 are not hard routes and the fuel savings over a fuel hungry B9TL would be quite decent, not forgetting commonality at Percy Main also having the NT Rockets & Coaster StreetLites.
The whole argument is that Arriva Northumbria have used the E400 Classic and E400MMC on arguably challenging work and bar 7501-06 which were ruined through poor maintenance (same issue which GNE are having), the rest have been fairly good.
From a maintenance and engineering perspective, surely it would make far more sense to only have 4x boards that need a low height decker as opposed to 12x and leaving engineering under pressure to send vehicles out that might be legal, but not 100% fit state! If 13x boards were able to be worked by a full height decker.....then it's a hell of a lot less stress and pressure on engineering as they can just allocate an ex GAG/London B9TL or E400 Classic instead of racing around trying to allocate whatever E400MMC is sitting around or having to pull one off the X45 or having to scramble for an E200MMC / StreetLite if the above fails!
Likewise, Riverside would have the choice of 15x deckers to use on the X10/X21 and could rotate them accordingly.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - WestDurhamSwift - 01 Feb 2025
Bus 6217, operating on the 16 route, broke down at around 12 PM while heading away from Stanley, right at the junction where it meets South Moor. It came to a stop in lane 2, which is the straight-ahead lane. The bus was full of passengers at the time.
Drove past again at 3 PM, and it was still there.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 02 Feb 2025
40mph on a streetdeck on the A19 is not ideal, tbh its quite unsafe
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - L469 YVK - 02 Feb 2025
(10 hours ago)Unber43 wrote 40mph on a streetdeck on the A19 is not ideal, tbh its quite unsafe
Bar 6377, no other StreetDecks should be anywhere near the X10. Should be a native GNE B9TL if no Enviros or 6377 available!
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Michael - 02 Feb 2025
GNE say the
12:20 from Newcastle to Gateshead will not operate due to a "breakdown"
Bustimes, says its a Citaro allocated between that time- which isn't euro 6 - so are GNE using a fake "breakdown" status to cover the fact they don't want to get fined for using a non euro 6 bus?
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 02 Feb 2025
Yeah I am gonna report that
anyone know where the link is, I did see in Gateshead but assumed it was on the 81
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Thomas12 - 02 Feb 2025
(8 hours ago)Michael wrote GNE say the
12:20 from Newcastle to Gateshead will not operate due to a "breakdown"
Bustimes, says its a Citaro allocated between that time- which isn't euro 6 - so are GNE using a fake "breakdown" status to cover the fact they don't want to get fined for using a non euro 6 bus?
It’s quite ridiculous that they wouldn’t just pay the £50 charge considering it’s per day rather than per journey. Especially when it’s on a service that’s operating once every hour.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - DeltaMan - 02 Feb 2025
(8 hours ago)Michael wrote GNE say the
12:20 from Newcastle to Gateshead will not operate due to a "breakdown"
Bustimes, says its a Citaro allocated between that time- which isn't euro 6 - so are GNE using a fake "breakdown" status to cover the fact they don't want to get fined for using a non euro 6 bus?
It's a load of rubbish. They need to be reported to the TC.
Whoever is instructing drives to do this needs to be ejected from the bus industry
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 02 Feb 2025
AND ITS SUBSIDED ASWELL!!!
Must love it if youre a driver 30 min break
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Storx - 02 Feb 2025
Must say it's pretty embarrassing that Washington doesn't have 4 E6 single deckers in their whole fleet currently when they've got 10+ of the things nor that they haven't bothered to send one from elsewhere to deal with it either.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - lewisparker1509 - 02 Feb 2025
(7 hours ago)DeltaMan wrote It's a load of rubbish. They need to be reported to the TC.
Whoever is instructing drives to do this needs to be ejected from the bus industry
I've got enough freetime to write a lengthy paragraph to the TC. If anyone can get me the contact address I'll report it. Already reporting it to Nexus but I'm not sure Nexus have any say over the 28s. Complaining to GNE will be like talking to a brick wall, or a football ref who is a die hard fan of one of the teams.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Ambassador - 02 Feb 2025
Citaro on the 28/29 today
Running to Gateshead only
Asked the driver and he said he was told it was Tyne bridge congestion
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Andreos1 - 02 Feb 2025
(8 hours ago)Michael wrote GNE say the
12:20 from Newcastle to Gateshead will not operate due to a "breakdown"
Bustimes, says its a Citaro allocated between that time- which isn't euro 6 - so are GNE using a fake "breakdown" status to cover the fact they don't want to get fined for using a non euro 6 bus?
Not the first time there's been 'dubious' practice. Probably not the last.
The increase in technology just makes it a little more obvious to identify.
It's not one persons word against another any more.
Shocking regardless.
(6 hours ago)Ambassador wrote Citaro on the 28/29 today
Running to Gateshead only
Asked the driver and he said he was told it was Tyne bridge congestion
Displaying Gateshead on the blind?
It will be interesting to see if any tickets were issued to 'Newcastle' on these boards, particularly when there's an apparent planned breakdown.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Storx - 02 Feb 2025
(6 hours ago)lewisparker1509 wrote I've got enough freetime to write a lengthy paragraph to the TC. If anyone can get me the contact address I'll report it. Already reporting it to Nexus but I'm not sure Nexus have any say over the 28s. Complaining to GNE will be like talking to a brick wall, or a football ref who is a die hard fan of one of the teams.
Happy to be corrected, but believe the 28/28B/29 are Durham County tendered services.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - DeltaMan - 02 Feb 2025
They've already predicted the next 28B to Newcastle will break down at Gateshead as they have an alert on the 15:10 to Kibblesworth starting at Gateshead.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - lewisparker1509 - 02 Feb 2025
(6 hours ago)Storx wrote Happy to be corrected, but believe the 28/28B/29 are Durham County tendered services.
I know it's tendered, just not sure who with, which is why I said wasn't sure Nexus had any say. Even if it was, Nexus wouldn't do anything anyways. Amount of times I've got the "Service XYZ is not Nexus tendered" reply, even though it bloody well is.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 02 Feb 2025
(6 hours ago)DeltaMan wrote They've already predicted the next 28B to Newcastle will break down at Gateshead as they have an alert on the 15:10 to Kibblesworth starting at Gateshead.
If someone gives me a link I will report this too.
Everyone should.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Storx - 02 Feb 2025
(6 hours ago)lewisparker1509 wrote I know it's tendered, just not sure who with, which is why I said wasn't sure Nexus had any say. Even if it was, Nexus wouldn't do anything anyways. Amount of times I've got the "Service XYZ is not Nexus tendered" reply, even though it bloody well is.
Yeah no arguments, think you misread it. Was just trying to answer the bit about Nexus
Probably better to contact DCC but not sure what they're response is like. Mind Gateshead Central Taxis always seem to be well behaved on their routes down there in comparison to the T&W routes in the past.
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - Unber43 - 02 Feb 2025
(6 hours ago)DeltaMan wrote They've already predicted the next 28B to Newcastle will break down at Gateshead as they have an alert on the 15:10 to Kibblesworth starting at Gateshead.
It get's better
RE: Go North East - State of the Fleet - DeltaMan - 02 Feb 2025
(6 hours ago)Unber43 wrote It get's better
Maybe they are concerned the air temperature is slightly colder North of the Tyne and that will knock the air pressure on a Citaro....but not a Versa or Streetlite