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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 06 Oct 2019 Teesside Changes from Sunday 27th October 2019 EDIT: Sorry, further reviewed the timetables - the 36/37/38 will actually see a PVR increase by 1. Seems during the day, the 36 will be stand alone while the 37/38 will interwork in Middlesbrough. EDIT2: Further review, the 37 and 38 will also be stand alone during the day, each with a PVR of 3. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 26 Oct 2019 Just realised the 38 isn't going via Norton Grange evenings and Sundays! How stupid. Just to confuse everyone. Noticed some 38s already showing via Norton Grange today! And a 13 showing Hemlington. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tyresmoke - 27 Oct 2019 (26 Oct 2019, 10:07 pm)Cock Robin wrote Just realised the 38 isn't going via Norton Grange evenings and Sundays! How stupid. Just to confuse everyone. Not sure it's unexpected though, the 35 didn't have an evening service anyway. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 27 Oct 2019 Would have been an improvement though. Would still have served most of the 38 stops. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 31 Oct 2019 Spotted these on the NEXUS site X24/X34 running on Sundays from the 17th November. X24/X24A Newcastle - Pennywell Ind. Est./Doxford International - Sunderland X24 Introduction of Sunday journeys for Christmas Sunday, 17 November 2019 https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/x024-x024a-sis-171119.pdf X34 Newcastle – Horsley Hill - Newcastle Stagecoach Revised Timetable Introduction of Sunday journeys for Christmas Sunday, 17 November 2019 https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/x034-sss-171119.pdf RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 01 Nov 2019 Changes on the 11th November PB0002404/47 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3232A (32, 32A) Walker North Kenton PB0002404/9 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (62, 63) Killingworth North Walbottle or Chapel House RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - markydh - 03 Nov 2019 Blackett Street is closed for the Christmas Market from then until Christmas. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 24 Nov 2019 PB0002404/10 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Eldon Square Bus Station to Ponteland and Darras Hall Service number: X77X78X79 (X77, X78, X79) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 05 Jan 2020 Withdrawal of 1510 Wednesday Schoolday only journey RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 07 Feb 2020 PB0001987/306 Registered CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD Route: Stainton to Nunthorpe Service number: 19 (19) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 23 Mar 2020 RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 21 Feb 2020 Seasider registered again, starts on 4th April and ends on 12th September https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/544033/ RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 21 Feb 2020 Doing some digging and the Stagecoach Sunderland/South Shields changes have appeared.. interesting changes Changes start on 05 Apr 2020. Variations: PB0002404/44 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18ss (18) South Shields Brockley Whins PB0002404/41 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011ss (10, 11) South Shields Jarrow or Cobalt PB0002404/48 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22s (22) Dene Estate Doxford Park PB0002404/21 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4) South Shields Biddick Hall Estate PB0002404/22 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 78 (7, 8) South Shields Marsden PB0002404/60 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Thorney Close PB0002404/17 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill PB0002404/20 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (12, 13, 3) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon PB0002404/25 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 (30) South Shields Boldon PB0002404/29 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12ss (12) South Shields South Shields The Lonnen PB0002404/264 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X20 (X20) South Shields Fellgate Estate PB0002404/18 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18, 18A) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law PB0002404/77 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X1 (X1) Sunderland John Street Doxford International PB0002404/23 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 17 (17) South Shields Whiteleas Estate 23 renumbered 22 and between Dene Estate and Doxford Park 4 now Downhill to Thorney Close Only changes so far Edit: Starting to appear on VOSA today: (haven't got excel atm. new computer, so can't see the exact changes) PB0002404/18 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Sunderland to Grangetown or Gilley Law Service number: 1819 (18, 18A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 PB0002404/41 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Jarrow or Cobalt Service number: 1011ss (10, 11) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 PB0002404/29 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to South Shields The Lonnen Service number: 12ss (12) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 21 Feb 2020 Really don’t understand why these changes for Sunderland. Doxford park to dene estate!! RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 21 Feb 2020 (21 Feb 2020, 10:00 pm)Acky81 wrote Really don’t understand why these changes for Sunderland. Doxford park to dene estate!! Same, seems a odd move, but maybe they want to open up new links, or try something new Only services atm with no changes atm is: 8/10/11/20/X24 and X34. As long as the does the exact same times as the 23, i don't mind the changes, as i get the 6:14am 23 on a morning, so hoping that one stays. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 21 Feb 2020 (21 Feb 2020, 10:31 pm)Michael wrote Same, seems a odd move, but maybe they want to open up new links, or try something newWhat’s the changes for 3 12 and 13 How do you access vosa RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 21 Feb 2020 (21 Feb 2020, 10:49 pm)Acky81 wrote What’s the changes for 3 12 and 13 Not sure on the 3/12/13 changes, probables timetable. https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/ Search: Licence traffic area: BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD then tick North East. You can choose if you want just New, Variation etc. Others are: GO NORTH EAST LIMITED ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Dan - 22 Feb 2020 (21 Feb 2020, 10:31 pm)Michael wrote Same, seems a odd move, but maybe they want to open up new links, or try something new Perhaps swapping the southern section of the route means the running time on both routes allows a bus to be taken out of the PVR between the two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Feb 2020 (21 Feb 2020, 3:24 pm)Michael wrote Doing some digging and the Stagecoach Sunderland/South Shields changes have appeared.. interesting changes PB0002404/23 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Whiteleas Estate Service number: 17 (17) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Every 12 minutes ------------ PB0002404/48 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Dene Estate to Doxford Park Service number: 22s (22) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Peak times every 12 minutes ------- PB0002404/21 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Biddick Hall Estate Service number: 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Last journey on the 3 withdrawn (22 Feb 2020, 6:21 am)Dan wrote Perhaps swapping the southern section of the route means the running time on both routes allows a bus to be taken out of the PVR between the two. And reduce the frequencies, i think it'll also help with reliability. As long as the Monday to Friday 6:14am and 6:44am journey from Springwell to the City Centre run, as they currently run as the 23.... i don't care about the changes! I would expect the 4 and 16 to follow in dropping to every 12 minutes. I think we will see the 18 reduced even more, (dare i mention the GNE X3 service), i just can't see how its still making some sort of profit! ---- Also appearing now is the 939: PB0002404/345 Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 939 (939) Sunderland Park Lane Team Valley North End RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 22 Feb 2020 Wonder if the 22 will go from Doxford to seaburn on Sundays. I think they should renumber the 4 as many will end up at Thorney close ?instead of doxy Wonder if there’s any new fresh routes for Sunderland RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - AIG20 - 22 Feb 2020 The upcoming changes in April should allow the remaining darts (34605/11 and 35188/89) to be withdrawn along with most unreliable and knackered MAN E200s. Scania OmniLinks 24001-3 could also be withdrawn (due to how unreliable they are and as they are not Euro 6) and some ADL E300s cascaded elsewhere if there are frequency changes planned for the 3, 12, 13 and 16? RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 22 Feb 2020 just a thought if they are repainting all the vehicles they may need to keep the darts for now RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Feb 2020 (22 Feb 2020, 1:26 pm)AIG20 wrote The upcoming changes in April should allow the remaining darts (34605/11 and 35188/89) to be withdrawn along with most unreliable and knackered MAN E200s. Hopefully, the darts are horrendous. Only way to get the 3/12/13 frequency down, was if every service was every 30 minutes (15 combined, currently every 10 minutes combined), but don't think that'll happen, i can see the 4 and 16 dropping to every 12 minutes. Hopefully we will see the Euro 6 gas buses on the X24 to replace the Omnilinks. Wonder if the X1 changes are linked with the 4 changing its route?, wonder if the X1 will link with the 18 instead, as i expect more runs will be dropped from the route. Edit: Talking of the Omnilinks.... only 24001 is out today.... Edit: New PVR's, if routes go every 12 minutes 4: 7 PVR (was 10) 16: 8 PVR (was 10) 22: 7 PVR (was 8 PVR) Drop in 6 PVR Of course could drop by more, if the 20 appears on VOSA. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 22 Feb 2020 They seriously need to review the Newcastle network RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Feb 2020 (22 Feb 2020, 2:26 pm)V514DFT wrote They seriously need to review the Newcastle network I don't really know the Newcastle network, so can't give some idea's out on how to improve it, but what would you change? RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - markydh - 22 Feb 2020 (22 Feb 2020, 2:26 pm)V514DFT wrote They seriously need to review the Newcastle network Do they? There’s nothing wrong with it. They were going to withdraw the 32 between Benwell and Kenton Bar, and the 18 between the Freeman Hospital and Forest Hall, but NEXUS have stepped in to provide funding for them to stay in place. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 22 Feb 2020 (22 Feb 2020, 6:28 pm)markydh wrote Do they? There’s nothing wrong with it. They were going to withdraw the 32 between Benwell and Kenton Bar, and the 18 between the Freeman Hospital and Forest Hall, but NEXUS have stepped in to provide funding for them to stay in place.And thats good how exactly? So they axed the 15/15A re routed the 32/32A,but no no,that wasnt enough, they then axed the 18 to Forest Hall and Wallsend, replaced it with the 6 and 7 to Forest Hall, a year later decided that wasnt working then the K3 replaced it,that then got axed (yes it was GNE) then Forest Hall lost the link to the Freeman altogether and also lost the link to the Call Centre (yes believe it or not, some people that work there are from Forest Hall) but a couple of months earlier the 1 was extended to the Cobalt, thats just recent examples, the Newcastle network has been a joke for the last 20 years RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 22 Feb 2020 (22 Feb 2020, 7:25 pm)V514DFT wrote And thats good how exactly? So they axed the 15/15A re routed the 32/32A,but no no,that wasnt enough, they then axed the 18 to Forest Hall and Wallsend, replaced it with the 6 and 7 to Forest Hall, a year later decided that wasnt working then the K3 replaced it,that then got axed (yes it was GNE) then Forest Hall lost the link to the Freeman altogether and also lost the link to the Call Centre (yes believe it or not, some people that work there are from Forest Hall) but a couple of months earlier the 1 was extended to the Cobalt, thats just recent examples, the Newcastle network has been a joke for the last 20 years Tbf it's not just Stagecoach that serves Forest Hall. The whole North Tyneside network is a mess imo. Places like Monkseaton, Backworth, Briardene, Marsden, Preston Village just to name a few would love the links that you have. The West End of Newcastle probably have the best network in the North East though, mostly frequent bus routes which run late in the evening and some of the cheapest fares. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 23 Feb 2020 (07 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm)Michael wrote PB0001987/306 Registered Times and Map of the 19 now showing on Bus Times https://bustimes.org/services/19-acklam-marton RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 23 Feb 2020 Any more news on the Sunderland service changes for April RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 23 Feb 2020 (23 Feb 2020, 9:28 pm)Acky81 wrote Any more news on the Sunderland service changes for April No, likely the rest of the changes will be on VOSA tomorrow or the coming days, this is where we can access the CSV sheet, which sometimes tells you the changes. Other than that, they won't be on the Stagecoach site for a couple of weeks yet. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - GuyParkRoyal - 24 Feb 2020 PB0002404/60 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Downhill to Thorney Close Service number: 4su (4) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised route and timetable to serve Thorney Close. PB0002404/345 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Sunderland Park Lane to Team Valley North End Service number: 939 (939) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised timetable. PB0002404/77 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Sunderland John Street to Doxford International Service number: X1 (X1) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised timetable. PB0002404/264 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate Service number: X20 (X20) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised timetable operated by South Shields. PB0002404/25 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Boldon Service number: 30 (30) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised timetable operated by South Shields. PB0002404/44 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Brockley Whins Service number: 18ss (18) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised times for am and pm peak services and headway reduced to 12 mins. PB0002404/22 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: South Shields to Marsden Service number: 78 (7, 8) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Apr 2020 Revised timetable to aid reliability. |