(19 Feb 2021, 2:13 pm)Jimmi wrote I had one of the Wright bodied B8RLEs with East Coast Buses a few month back and my god it was awful, never experienced rattling like it before making for an unpleasant ride, somehow made me glad to be on an E200MMC afterwards (Borders Buses 253). The MCV eVoRa doesn't seem as bad as the Wright bodies on the same chassis, have found the Volvo B5TL with EvoSeti double decker bodies better than the Gemini 3s like GNE have, same can't quite be said for looks but otherwise MCV seems better IMO.

(19 Feb 2021, 7:46 pm)mb134 wrote Wonder if that's possibly going to be a sign of a 2015-19 Wrights vehicle going forward? I think build quality dropped from the high standard associated with Wright around the end of the first generation of Eclipse vehicles, but was generally okay until the start of Gemini 3/Streetlite/Streetdeck where it nosedived and got even worse when they were in financial difficulty.

(19 Feb 2021, 7:46 pm)mb134 wrote Wonder if that's possibly going to be a sign of a 2015-19 Wrights vehicle going forward? I think build quality dropped from the high standard associated with Wright around the end of the first generation of Eclipse vehicles, but was generally okay until the start of Gemini 3/Streetlite/Streetdeck where it nosedived and got even worse when they were in financial difficulty.

(19 Feb 2021, 8:58 pm)Dan wrote Comparing the new StreetDecks in GNE’s fleet to the new ADL’s, if we think build quality is poor from Wrights, it must be appalling from ADL!


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(19 Feb 2021, 11:27 pm)mb134 wrote I did say 2015-2019! From what I've seen it looks like things are improving at quite a pace since Bamford took charge. 

The new Streetdecks up here are bolted together well, shame about the 2010 council spec interiors. ADL build quality of late seems to differ bus to bus, let alone batch to batch.

(19 Feb 2021, 7:46 pm)mb134 wrote Wonder if that's possibly going to be a sign of a 2015-19 Wrights vehicle going forward? I think build quality dropped from the high standard associated with Wright around the end of the first generation of Eclipse vehicles, but was generally okay until the start of Gemini 3/Streetlite/Streetdeck where it nosedived and got even worse when they were in financial difficulty.

(20 Feb 2021, 1:48 pm)Storx wrote You really think? I think Wright peaked around 2003 personally. The Renowns and Commanders are much better than the newer stuff imo.

The 3 Commanders at Blyth imo feel a much more solid bus than the replacement Pulsar imo which is as bad as anything between 2015 - 19 and just feel cheap. The rattle on the emergency door and the rattley driver guard being the 2 most noticeable things which are annoying and we're there from new - the emergency door rattle which still exists on Streetlites.

Even today 1401 - 1403 feel a lot more solid than the Pulsars and are a hell of less rattley given that some of them are nearly twice as old.

(20 Feb 2021, 1:48 pm)Storx wrote You really think? I think Wright peaked around 2003 personally. The Renowns and Commanders are much better than the newer stuff imo.

The 3 Commanders at Blyth imo feel a much more solid bus than the replacement Pulsar imo which is as bad as anything between 2015 - 19 and just feel cheap. The rattle on the emergency door and the rattley driver guard being the 2 most noticeable things which are annoying and we're there from new - the emergency door rattle which still exists on Streetlites.

Even today 1401 - 1403 feel a lot more solid than the Pulsars and are a hell of less rattley given that some of them are nearly twice as old.

(21 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)mb134 wrote From my experience when travelling, I found the first generation of Eclipse bodywork (Urbans/Solars/Geminis) very solid. The second generation things started to go downhill, albeit nowhere near as badly as they did once the "Street" line of products entered production. Quality control on quite a few batches of Streetlites were horrendous, the ones First have here are beyond awful. 

The newest batch of Streetdecks for GNE seem put together well, as do the new Streetdecks up here for First, so it seems like Bamford has helped in improving standards (helps if they're using money for parts, rather than donations to a church mind).