(23 Aug 2014, 6:19 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote I would of been 10 Years Old when both sets of Vehicles entered Service at Washington, But I do believe 523-531 spent there whole working life at Washington Depot. Think there was more MPD's at Washington at the time than just 523-531, As you had Services W2/W3/W4/W5/W6/186/293/393 and 493 and a few more which used MPD's, And there is no way 8 MPD's could cover the PVR of all those Services.

532 spent some time at Washington in 2010 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/5462375209/

Might worth asking the likes of Gary Mitchelhill and few other older Enthusiasts about 533 to 548, Because you would think that for all those Services the PVR would be over 20 at least, Anyway I have put a post on Facebook asking if anyone knows any more details of the MPD's, hopefully we'll get some feedback.

(23 Aug 2014, 9:15 pm)Dan wrote Tomorrow's plan?
In addition to getting the news done tomorrow, I intend to get all of the 25 Scania L94UBs new in 2001 done, and I'll also try and do all 35 Volvo B7TLs (this should be fairly easy, given that I've already done half of the job by jotting down when they arrived into the fleet, what their fleet number down in London was, etc). If I manage to get all of this done, I intend on getting the ex-Arriva and ex-Oxford Volvo B10BLEs done, given that they've joined the fleet fairly recently and haven't moved about too much, so that should be pretty easy too. That should take us up to 602/689 (approximately 87% complete).

(23 Aug 2014, 9:28 pm)Robert wrote Yeah, from what i can remember 4989-4991 all carried Derwent Ranger branding but when they were moved (presumably for the orbit) and replaced by 4978-82 didnt eventhough service 47 was still referred to as the Derwent Ranger whilst these B7RLEs operated the service.

(24 Aug 2014, 11:30 am)Dan wrote I've been working on the fleet lists for a few hours now; as such, I've managed to complete all 35 Volvo B7TLs, all ex-Oxford Volvo B10BLEs, and all ex-Arriva Volvo B10BLEs (577/689 / 84%).

The Volvo B7TLs were a lot harder than I had originally imagined given that some of the vehicles were repainted red and held in storage prior to Go North East announcing that they had acquired all of them permanently. The details on our fleet lists actually represented when they were repainted in reality, but I've amended them to reflect the details Go North East gave on their Fleet Archive document (it seems most of the vehicles were held in storage until the following month after being repainted). It's a lot simpler now, and the notes section for these vehicles is a lot tidier now.
There are missing details for 6012/15/16/17/27, though I have queried these in an e-mail, so I'll go back if/when I receive details.

I haven't started the Solars new in 2001 yet, but going to make a start on them and then do the news.


Amended accordingly, and I have also added details for the second-hand Scania L94UBs as being branded for service 21 whilst at Chester-le-Street.

(24 Aug 2014, 11:35 am)Michael wrote Nice work Dan, if i did them i would get bored after 5 minutes.

Dan on the news can you list what is left to re-paint from the batch's.. i:e the tridents etc left, saves me asking!

(24 Aug 2014, 12:56 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Update on the MPD's, I apologize if you already this information Dan, but I can't see the Details of the MPD's which were Withdrawn in December 2013, Just a few details that Chris White mentioned on Facebook.

All the 52 plate MPDs were new to Washington, though some were used by Deptford when new and they often interchanged with Deptford while in the black 'Turn Up and Go' branding (I often travelled on them on the old Silksworth 133 service which had turquoise TUAG branding). In the mid 2000s 535-548 moved to other depots such as Winlaton and Deptford, some becoming Kingfishers. 532 went white at Washington while 533 and 534 kept their black Simply Washington branding for years until they started moving around to Stanley, then Winlaton, one visited Percy main at one point. I forget which specific vehicles went where. I know 543 was a Winlaton bus before moving to Deptford to become an extra Black Cat.

533 on the 44 to Stanley
https://www.flickr.com/.../chriswhitesbusphotos/6203115645

534 on the 17 to Whitley Bay
https://www.flickr.com/.../chriswhitesbusphotos/5917964963

Hopefully fingers crossed there might be few details in there that you've missed Dan

Furthermore given that I can't see the Details of the Previously Withdrawn MPD's, would it be worth creating another Fleetlist for all the Vehicles previously within the Fleet, including Demonstration Vehicles that Go North East have had over the Years, I think it would be quite handy for those tracking down Old Details of Former Vehicles, although I do understand this maybe a lot Harder and more Time Consuming than doing the Standard GNE Fleetlist.

Another Idea I had for the current Fleetlist, was to have for each Brand, have 1 or 2 Photos of Vehicle in an Old Livery, I'll list a few examples below, Although I am guessing you may prefer to use more up to date images of the Vehicles in the Fleet.

4950 - In Centrelink Livery while on Loan to CLS for Service 21
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswhitesbusphotos/5812020972/

4951 - In it's first Go North East Livery
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jncarter1962/3095656039/

And have 4952/53 with a Photo of them on the X40

(24 Aug 2014, 11:30 am)Dan wrote I've been working on the fleet lists for a few hours now; as such, I've managed to complete all 35 Volvo B7TLs, both coaches new in 2001, all ex-Oxford Volvo B10BLEs, and all ex-Arriva Volvo B10BLEs (579/689 / 84%).

The Volvo B7TLs were a lot harder than I had originally imagined given that some of the vehicles were repainted red and held in storage prior to Go North East announcing that they had acquired all of them permanently. The details on our fleet lists actually represented when they were repainted in reality, but I've amended them to reflect the details Go North East gave on their Fleet Archive document (it seems most of the vehicles were held in storage until the following month after being repainted). It's a lot simpler now, and the notes section for these vehicles is a lot tidier now.
There are missing details for 6012/15/16/17/27, though I have queried these in an e-mail, so I'll go back if/when I receive details.

I haven't started the Solars new in 2001 yet, but going to make a start on them and then do the news.


Amended accordingly, and I have also added details for the second-hand Scania L94UBs as being branded for service 21 whilst at Chester-le-Street.

(24 Aug 2014, 1:52 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Were they? Never knew that.
Can remember them in fleet livery on the 721 etc., but never branded for the 21.
I can only remember the examples on the 93/94 being on the 21.

(24 Aug 2014, 11:30 am)Dan wrote I've been working on the fleet lists for a few hours now; as such, I've managed to complete all 35 Volvo B7TLs, both coaches new in 2001, all ex-Oxford Volvo B10BLEs, and all ex-Arriva Volvo B10BLEs (579/689 / 84%).

The Volvo B7TLs were a lot harder than I had originally imagined given that some of the vehicles were repainted red and held in storage prior to Go North East announcing that they had acquired all of them permanently. The details on our fleet lists actually represented when they were repainted in reality, but I've amended them to reflect the details Go North East gave on their Fleet Archive document (it seems most of the vehicles were held in storage until the following month after being repainted). It's a lot simpler now, and the notes section for these vehicles is a lot tidier now.
There are missing details for 6012/15/16/17/27, though I have queried these in an e-mail, so I'll go back if/when I receive details.

I haven't started the Solars new in 2001 yet, but going to make a start on them and then do the news.

(24 Aug 2014, 12:56 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Update on the MPD's, I apologize if you already this information Dan, but I can't see the Details of the MPD's which were Withdrawn in December 2013, Just a few details that Chris White mentioned on Facebook.

All the 52 plate MPDs were new to Washington, though some were used by Deptford when new and they often interchanged with Deptford while in the black 'Turn Up and Go' branding (I often travelled on them on the old Silksworth 133 service which had turquoise TUAG branding). In the mid 2000s 535-548 moved to other depots such as Winlaton and Deptford, some becoming Kingfishers. 532 went white at Washington while 533 and 534 kept their black Simply Washington branding for years until they started moving around to Stanley, then Winlaton, one visited Percy main at one point. I forget which specific vehicles went where. I know 543 was a Winlaton bus before moving to Deptford to become an extra Black Cat.

533 on the 44 to Stanley
https://www.flickr.com/.../chriswhitesbusphotos/6203115645

534 on the 17 to Whitley Bay
https://www.flickr.com/.../chriswhitesbusphotos/5917964963

Hopefully fingers crossed there might be few details in there that you've missed Dan

Furthermore given that I can't see the Details of the Previously Withdrawn MPD's, would it be worth creating another Fleetlist for all the Vehicles previously within the Fleet, including Demonstration Vehicles that Go North East have had over the Years, I think it would be quite handy for those tracking down Old Details of Former Vehicles, although I do understand this maybe a lot Harder and more Time Consuming than doing the Standard GNE Fleetlist.

Another Idea I had for the current Fleetlist, was to have for each Brand, have 1 or 2 Photos of Vehicle in an Old Livery, I'll list a few examples below, Although I am guessing you may prefer to use more up to date images of the Vehicles in the Fleet.

4950 - In Centrelink Livery while on Loan to CLS for Service 21
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswhitesbusphotos/5812020972/

4951 - In it's first Go North East Livery
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jncarter1962/3095656039/

And have 4952/53 with a Photo of them on the X40

(24 Aug 2014, 3:43 pm)park5354 wrote Morning peak extras were operated by Sunderland Road between Birtley Baths and Newcastle due to loading issues (Omnicities). CLS never had any Artics on loan.

(25 Aug 2014, 8:35 am)Dan wrote I'm currently going through the Volvo B10BLEs new in 2000.

Although they were delivered during different months, it certainly looks like 4896-4911 were all new to Stanley Depot. Likewise, it looks like 4912-4925 were all new to Gateshead Depot.
Someone previously confirmed that 4923 was new to Gateshead Depot, but can anyone confirm the rest of the Volvo B10BLEs?

Cheers.

(25 Aug 2014, 9:12 am)Robert wrote Thats probably correct. The renowns back then were allocated to services 775/778 and 765/766 so needed a high amount. 4850-55 (eventhough you arent doing those vehicles for obvious reasons) i think were transferred over (unless they first entered service at Stanley which i dont think they did) for the same reason.

(24 Aug 2014, 2:11 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote 4992 on the 21
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoachuk/14384675256/

(25 Aug 2014, 9:43 am)Dan wrote That's great, and it would explain why there's no information on GNE's Fleet Archive for 4900-03.

Likewise for 4916/18/19/21 at Gateshead.

(25 Aug 2014, 10:12 am)Dan wrote I've now completed the Vehicle History section for 4896-4925, meaning that there's just the Dennis Tridents to go!

There's a few question marks for the above quoted vehicles, just in case movements have been accidentally left out of the Fleet Archive (it's a crazy thought that eight vehicles haven't actually moved to another depot in 14 years). There's also a few question marks for 4910/11/23/24/25 where there is a few details missing.

As I've already raised enquiries for 524, 542, 3885-89, 4937/41/49, 4991/92, 6012/15/16/17/27 and 7087, I'm going to wait until I get a reply about those before e-mailing about another 13 buses.

(25 Aug 2014, 10:12 am)Dan wrote I've now completed the Vehicle History section for 4896-4925, meaning that there's just the Dennis Tridents to go! Briefly went through all of the B10s and Tridents last night to see how long it would take me to do them today, and there's quite a few with nothing at all on the Fleet Archive (so hopefully it should be fairly quick to do those too).

There's a few question marks for the above quoted vehicles, just in case movements have been accidentally left out of the Fleet Archive (it's a crazy thought that eight vehicles haven't actually moved to another depot in 14 years). There's also a few question marks for 4910/11/23/24/25 where there is a few details missing.

As I've already raised enquiries for 524, 542, 3885-89, 4937/41/49, 4991/92, 6012/15/16/17/27 and 7087, I'm going to wait until I get a reply about those before e-mailing about another 13 buses.

(25 Aug 2014, 10:17 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote The majority of the Tridents were allocated to Percy Main and Winlaton initially from memory - if it helps as a starter.
After then, they were gradually dispersed anywhere and everywhere.

(25 Aug 2014, 10:23 am)Robert wrote For 4910, you have missed out its period of time in the 'Buzzfare' advertising livery. I have a couple of pics in plain white so ill try and get the dates.

(25 Aug 2014, 10:37 am)Dan wrote Cheers - hopefully they didn't move much in their first few years with GNE and the first movements on GNE's Fleet Archive are out of Percy Main and Winlaton!


I suspect it would have been vinyled up in that livery soon after it was given the plain white repaint in January 2007 - similar to 3964 going around in plain yellow before it was branded up for Children in Need or whatever else it's done?

(25 Aug 2014, 10:37 am)Dan wrote Cheers - hopefully they didn't move much in their first few years with GNE and the first movements on GNE's Fleet Archive are out of Percy Main and Winlaton!


I suspect it would have been vinyled up in that livery soon after it was given the plain white repaint in January 2007 - similar to 3964 going around in plain yellow before it was branded up for Children in Need or whatever else it's done?

(25 Aug 2014, 10:47 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Possibly 2003ish the Tridents started being moved.
The vehicles weren't that old.

Some of the 'white elephants' were white for quite a while.
It was only after the failure of outside organisations to purchase advertising space, that the buzzfare wraps were introduced on a widespread basis.

• 3801 did not transfer out of Percy Main until 2007, when it transferred to CLS.
  
• 3802's first transfer was out of CLS, so I suspect it transferred out of Percy Main prior to 2003.
  
• 3803 did not transfer out of Percy Main until 2008, when it transferred to CLS.
  
• 3804 as above.

(25 Aug 2014, 10:47 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Possibly 2003ish the Tridents started being moved.
The vehicles weren't that old.

Some of the 'white elephants' were white for quite a while.
It was only after the failure of outside organisations to purchase advertising space, that the buzzfare wraps were introduced on a widespread basis.

(25 Aug 2014, 12:35 pm)Dan wrote Well you were right about them being new to Percy Main and Winlaton... but a number of them didn't move around for quite a while!

It would seem that 3801-04 were all new to Percy Main.

• 3801 did not transfer out of Percy Main until 2007, when it transferred to CLS.
  
• 3802's first transfer was out of CLS, so I suspect it transferred out of Percy Main prior to 2003.
  
• 3803 did not transfer out of Percy Main until 2008, when it transferred to CLS.
  
• 3804 as above.

It would also seem that 3858-3867 were also new to Percy Main, with 3868-3880 being new to Winlaton. The batch at Percy Main stayed put for quite some time, but the batch at Winlaton all transferred out of Winlaton to other depots (3868 to Percy Main, 3869-80 to CLS) in August 2004, so you weren't too far out with those. 3866/67 (the DFDS branded ones) have been at Percy Main all of their lives; minus a loan to Gateshead which was not noted on the Fleet Archive, 3858 has too.

This was during the period where a lot of contracts changed, and there was a lot of transfers around the region. GNE also acquired six Wright Merits (8261-66) for contracted services 1 and 27 at this time, allowing the Scania L94s previously allocated to go to Percy Main for Route 19.

There's a few repaints I want to clear up before updating the records, but I'll try and do that by tonight. Much like the Diamond B10 ones, I foofed a few of them up a bit!

(25 Aug 2014, 12:36 pm)Marcus wrote I remember at one point, possibly around 2004-2005, Chester had a large majority of the Lolynes. If I remember correctly, they had 3870 all the way through to 3880, and a few from the 386x series. Can't remember any from the 385x batch. That's if my memory is still alright, I just remember loads of Tridents hovering around Chester in that period.

(25 Aug 2014, 1:42 pm)Robert wrote The few from the 386x series would have been off the Coaster. Temp used on angel before been branded Showstopper and 3803/4 and 3871/2 X25. This would have raised the trident numbers a lot. Especially as they already had a lot of presidents.

(25 Aug 2014, 1:44 pm)Marcus wrote Yeah, if I can recall, 3890/91 were the only ones not at Chester when they had 3881-3889. Can never actually remember the correct fleet numbers of the Trident Presidents, due to a lot going off to Oxford (?). Was it 3881 through to 3891, or 3881 through to 3895? I've got no idea, was so long ago.....

(25 Aug 2014, 2:36 pm)Robert wrote Don't know, 3890/1 were and have never been Chester based.

(25 Aug 2014, 3:22 pm)Marcus wrote Did I not just say that?

(25 Aug 2014, 6:17 pm)Robert wrote No, you just said that they weren't at Chester when they had the rest. At least that's what I made of it.