(08 Sep 2017, 9:08 pm)Ambassador wrote Orange...screams airport bus

(08 Sep 2017, 5:17 pm)Ambassador wrote Obviously a result of the disruption in Durham today but there's more Angels in Gateshead at the moment than there are in heaven ?

(09 Sep 2017, 2:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote Now the QR system is rolled out and it's possible for Big Brother at GNE Towers to see a lot more about our journey/travel patterns, I wonder what sort of changes we will see?

The optimist in me, reckons we will see the return of more direct services and a reduction on services working the hub & spoke model.

The realist in me, reckons we will see further reductions in services and even more consolidation.

(09 Sep 2017, 2:42 pm)citaro5284 wrote I would have thought any bus/rail company that use smart cards would be able to see journey patterns just as much.  
Just look at the supermarkets - Sainsburys knows exactly what I buy.

(09 Sep 2017, 2:14 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Severe disruption in Newcastle city centre. Metro are accepting GNE bus tickets between Gateshead and Haymarket.

https://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/posts/10159312749160710

No update from Arriva, so I assume they're attempting to access Newcastle or making their passengers walk or pay for Metro...

(08 Sep 2017, 9:21 pm)BusLoverMum wrote Or Tynedale Express

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Well I got the slightly delayed on departure 16:17 from ES (I had considered getting the ill fated X9 and begging husband for a lift from Peterlee, before getting on it and 2 X21s hadn't shown and the X12 that I just missed and assumed to be just a few minutes late was actually an hour late!) and it arrived in Durham just a few minutes before another one. (2.5 hours from the Dental school to home - I was knackered!)

(09 Sep 2017, 8:43 pm)Citaro5326 wrote Tomorrow with the great north run the following allocations will happen
See it do it / Wear Xpress citaros on 56

(09 Sep 2017, 2:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote Now the QR system is rolled out and it's possible for Big Brother at GNE Towers to see a lot more about our journey/travel patterns, I wonder what sort of changes we will see?

The optimist in me, reckons we will see the return of more direct services and a reduction on services working the hub & spoke model.

The realist in me, reckons we will see further reductions in services and even more consolidation.

(09 Sep 2017, 8:43 pm)Citaro5326 wrote Tomorrow with the great north run the following allocations will happen
See it do it / Wear Xpress citaros on 56

(10 Sep 2017, 7:55 am)Crusader wrote Is that fact or speculation?

(10 Sep 2017, 8:07 am)cbma06 wrote There's already been posts on Facebook with pictures of WX citario on the 56.


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(10 Sep 2017, 7:40 am)eezypeazy wrote Hmm... X9/X10 serves Dalton Park; X5 and X21 extended to run on Sundays; extra late night journey on X1 weekdays; last 10 retimed to leave Newcastle at 2315; extra morning peak Q3; extra morning peak Prince Bishops into Durham; X22 increased to run hourly on Sundays; extra Lambton Worm journey weekdays; extra Fab 56 on Sunday mornings; more X66 morning peak journeys; more Loops on weekday afternoons... and that's just this month.

Looks to me as if Big Brother is using the data to provide more, not fewer, journey opportunities...

(Sits back and waits for Andreos to reel off a list of every service that's been reduced since 1986...)

(10 Sep 2017, 7:40 am)eezypeazy wrote Hmm... X9/X10 serves Dalton Park; X5 and X21 extended to run on Sundays; extra late night journey on X1 weekdays; last 10 retimed to leave Newcastle at 2315; extra morning peak Q3; extra morning peak Prince Bishops into Durham; X22 increased to run hourly on Sundays; extra Lambton Worm journey weekdays; extra Fab 56 on Sunday mornings; more X66 morning peak journeys; more Loops on weekday afternoons... and that's just this month.

Looks to me as if Big Brother is using the data to provide more, not fewer, journey opportunities...

(Sits back and waits for Andreos to reel off a list of every service that's been reduced since 1986...)

(10 Sep 2017, 10:58 am)L469 YVK wrote 10 only runs at 2315 on Sundays due to the 10B being withdrawn on Sunday evenings resulting in the 10/10A operating a combined 30 minute frequency.

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Talking about QR codes, if I lets say was to get on 1x bus to Newcastle in the early evening and purchased a return or day ticket but used a similar service that doesn't stop as close due to my preferred service that finishes earlier, could that signal demand for a later service on my preferred route?

(10 Sep 2017, 8:56 am)Andreos wrote (Sits back and waits for eezypeazy to start blathering on about passenger numbers, a magic money tree or other conservative, anti-passenger dogma)

(10 Sep 2017, 3:23 pm)eezypeazy wrote Typical Andreos response. When you politely point out that the truth is rather different from his point of view, he resorts to hurling thinly-veiled insults!

As anyone who knows me well will attest, I have been a passionate advocate for good public transport almost all my life!

So much for a 'kinder, gentler style of politics'!

Still, I should have learned by now that Andreos is always right, and I'm always wrong...

And as for 'anti-passenger dogma': yesterday, I went TEN MILES out of my way to help two passengers who would otherwise have been stranded in the middle of nowhere!

(10 Sep 2017, 8:56 am)Andreos1 wrote Let's hope the examples you provide, are just the beginning of a pattern of passenger improvements eezypeazy.
I would love to see the organisation continue to do u-turns and re-introduce (or even introduce) services or runs that benefit passengers.

However, you missed out the X22 and X39 curtailment and 11X changes.

(Sits back and waits for eezypeazy to start blathering on about passenger numbers, a magic money tree or other conservative, anti-passenger dogma)

(10 Sep 2017, 9:34 pm)busmanT wrote 11X and X39 changes/curtailment are hardly major cutbacks - any passengers who used the X39 to Gateshead can easily change buses in Central Newcastle, and similarly anyone who used the 11X.

X22 has changed just on one day per week - on Sunday it doesn't run from Durham (it only ran every 2 hours) but now runs from Chester-le-Street on an improved hourly frequency. With X21 now running on 
Sunday, any passenger doing Durham to Metrocentre can catch X21 to Gateshead and then X66 every hour.

Services or runs only benefit passengers if they use them, in most cases where Go North East have changed services passengers can still travel.

It's not only Go North East that makes service changes, Stagecoach North East have taken out almost 30 buses this year, with many services having changed.

(10 Sep 2017, 9:34 pm)busmanT wrote 11X and X39 changes/curtailment are hardly major cutbacks - any passengers who used the X39 to Gateshead can easily change buses in Central Newcastle, and similarly anyone who used the 11X.