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RE: New service X11 - CookieMonster - 18 Mar 2021

(10 Mar 2021, 6:44 pm)Storx wrote As reliable as the 53/54 going over the Swing Bridge I'd guess.

As reliable information as i have had at the time actually. Like everything posted by everyone on here is all just pure speculation. Nobody has any  100% reliable information indeed you here one thing one week and something totally different another week. I don't tend to post every bit of information i here until "A" i've heard it from a few reliable people and "B" i deem it possible that it will happen, then i may post it.

The swing bridge 53/54 subject was heard about in the same discussions as the electric buses on the 33 all be it one of them and that happened. If you want to here about all of the things i've heard without having time or indeed the interest to find out more about them then try these:
GNE doing short National Express runs to compete with the trains between Newcastle and Edinburgh using redundant Nat Ex coaches.
685 run transferring to Hexham depot and GNE running it on tacho instead of Stagecoach and/or Arriva
Mercs going end of last year (didn't happen knew it wouldn't) and Scania single decks being kept that the Scania can be made Euro6 whereas mercs carn't.
x9 will never come back
Chester is going to close at some point with all routes passing through Gateshead going to Riverside, the rest to Washington.
GNE may try and get some of Arriva routes on a permanent basis as Arriva are not in a good position at all at the moment.

As to how many of the above if any will happen i've no idea, is the info accurate no idea, who knows?
I expect everything you've ever posted in 100% accurate all the time. Even the management keep changing their mind as to whats going on with various different subjects due to the ongoing climate so how do you expect a load of bus spotters to know whats going to happening with bus companies. I know some people think that their information is somehow superior because its came from a good source but to be honest some of the things they think they know, way way way of the mark. Not their fault no, they are just posting what they been told however inaccurate it may be as they don't know any better neither does anyone.


RE: New service X11 - streetdeckfan - 18 Mar 2021

(18 Mar 2021, 6:07 pm)CookieMonster wrote As reliable information as i have had at the time actually. Like everything posted by everyone on here is all just pure speculation. Nobody has any  100% reliable information indeed you here one thing one week and something totally different another week. I don't tend to post every bit of information i here until "A" i've heard it from a few reliable people and "B" i deem it possible that it will happen, then i may post it.

The swing bridge 53/54 subject was heard about in the same discussions as the electric buses on the 33 all be it one of them and that happened. If you want to here about all of the things i've heard without having time or indeed the interest to find out more about them then try these:
GNE doing short National Express runs to compete with the trains between Newcastle and Edinburgh using redundant Nat Ex coaches.
685 run transferring to Hexham depot and GNE running it on tacho instead of Stagecoach and/or Arriva
Mercs going end of last year (didn't happen knew it wouldn't) and Scania single decks being kept that the Scania can be made Euro6 whereas mercs carn't.
x9 will never come back
Chester is going to close at some point with all routes passing through Gateshead going to Riverside, the rest to Washington.
GNE may try and get some of Arriva routes on a permanent basis as Arriva are not in a good position at all at the moment.

As to how many of the above if any will happen i've no idea, is the info accurate no idea, who knows?
I expect everything you've ever posted in 100% accurate all the time. Even the management keep changing their mind as to whats going on with various different subjects due to the ongoing climate so how do you expect a load of bus spotters to know whats going to happening with bus companies. I know some people think that their information is somehow superior because its came from a good source but to be honest some of the things they think they know, way way way of the mark. Not their fault no, they are just posting what they been told however inaccurate it may be as they don't know any better neither does anyone.

To be fair, the Mercs going and the Omnicities staying was said by MG and Dan during one of the Facebook lives last year.


RE: New service X11 - Andreos1 - 18 Mar 2021

(18 Mar 2021, 6:07 pm)CookieMonster wrote As reliable information as i have had at the time actually. Like everything posted by everyone on here is all just pure speculation. Nobody has any  100% reliable information indeed you here one thing one week and something totally different another week. I don't tend to post every bit of information i here until "A" i've heard it from a few reliable people and "B" i deem it possible that it will happen, then i may post it.

The swing bridge 53/54 subject was heard about in the same discussions as the electric buses on the 33 all be it one of them and that happened. If you want to here about all of the things i've heard without having time or indeed the interest to find out more about them then try these:
GNE doing short National Express runs to compete with the trains between Newcastle and Edinburgh using redundant Nat Ex coaches.
685 run transferring to Hexham depot and GNE running it on tacho instead of Stagecoach and/or Arriva
Mercs going end of last year (didn't happen knew it wouldn't) and Scania single decks being kept that the Scania can be made Euro6 whereas mercs carn't.
x9 will never come back
Chester is going to close at some point with all routes passing through Gateshead going to Riverside, the rest to Washington.
GNE may try and get some of Arriva routes on a permanent basis as Arriva are not in a good position at all at the moment.

As to how many of the above if any will happen i've no idea, is the info accurate no idea, who knows?
I expect everything you've ever posted in 100% accurate all the time. Even the management keep changing their mind as to whats going on with various different subjects due to the ongoing climate so how do you expect a load of bus spotters to know whats going to happening with bus companies. I know some people think that their information is somehow superior because its came from a good source but to be honest some of the things they think they know, way way way of the mark. Not their fault no, they are just posting what they been told however inaccurate it may be as they don't know any better neither does anyone.

There's some crackers in there mind.
I think they deserve a thread of their own and someone to do some digging with a local bookmaker to work out some odds!

(18 Mar 2021, 7:08 pm)streetdeckfan wrote To be fair, the Mercs going and the Omnicities staying was said by MG and Dan during one of the Facebook lives last year.

To be even fairer, I'm sure their was a quote and then several misquotes which followed on.


RE: New service X11 - Clifton Hignett III - 18 Mar 2021

(18 Mar 2021, 8:08 pm)Andreos1 wrote There's some crackers in there mind.
I think they deserve a thread of their own and someone to do some digging with a local bookmaker to work out some odds


It's a shame Fyacbuk went missing in the desert in Vegas. Rumour had it that he had links to local bookmakers in the area.


RE: New service X11 - Rapidsnap - 18 Mar 2021

As resident bookie, we are closed until April at the least.


RE: New service X11 - Storx - 18 Mar 2021

(18 Mar 2021, 6:07 pm)CookieMonster wrote As reliable information as i have had at the time actually. Like everything posted by everyone on here is all just pure speculation. Nobody has any  100% reliable information indeed you here one thing one week and something totally different another week. I don't tend to post every bit of information i here until "A" i've heard it from a few reliable people and "B" i deem it possible that it will happen, then i may post it.

The swing bridge 53/54 subject was heard about in the same discussions as the electric buses on the 33 all be it one of them and that happened. If you want to here about all of the things i've heard without having time or indeed the interest to find out more about them then try these:
GNE doing short National Express runs to compete with the trains between Newcastle and Edinburgh using redundant Nat Ex coaches.
685 run transferring to Hexham depot and GNE running it on tacho instead of Stagecoach and/or Arriva
Mercs going end of last year (didn't happen knew it wouldn't) and Scania single decks being kept that the Scania can be made Euro6 whereas mercs carn't.
x9 will never come back
Chester is going to close at some point with all routes passing through Gateshead going to Riverside, the rest to Washington.
GNE may try and get some of Arriva routes on a permanent basis as Arriva are not in a good position at all at the moment.

As to how many of the above if any will happen i've no idea, is the info accurate no idea, who knows?
I expect everything you've ever posted in 100% accurate all the time. Even the management keep changing their mind as to whats going on with various different subjects due to the ongoing climate so how do you expect a load of bus spotters to know whats going to happening with bus companies. I know some people think that their information is somehow superior because its came from a good source but to be honest some of the things they think they know, way way way of the mark. Not their fault no, they are just posting what they been told however inaccurate it may be as they don't know any better neither does anyone.

Yeah that's fair didn't mean it with any malace. You might want to say though where your hearing stuff from in the future though least then if they did make it up you can just blame them instead rather than taking the buck yourself. Personally I wouldn't trust most bus spotters though they tend to hear it from a mate who knows a mate who spoke to a driver type stories and they're not usually the most reliable people.


RE: New service X11 - Andreos1 - 18 Mar 2021

(18 Mar 2021, 8:26 pm)Clifton Hignett III wrote It's a shame Fyacbuk went missing in the desert in Vegas. Rumour had it that he had links to local bookmakers in the area.

Turnips, farm machinery, mafia, local bookmakers...

I can't imagine what he is going through. His poor family.
Look at his little face man 
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(18 Mar 2021, 8:48 pm)Rapidsnap wrote As resident bookie, we are closed until April at the least.

Leave the Minecraft alone and work out some odds on these will you?


RE: New service X11 - Clifton Hignett III - 19 Mar 2021

(18 Mar 2021, 11:12 pm)Andreos1 wrote Turnips, farm machinery, mafia, local bookmakers...

I can't imagine what he is going through. His poor family.
Look at his little face man

Yes, it's been tough on his wife, Mys Pace Polis, and his kids, Instah and Tyktok. They're all involved in the search for him and I've told them about how wonderful the people on this forum are so they may join to ask questions and share memories of good old Fyacbuk.

To keep this on topic, the Polis' have expressed an interest in accompanying myself and Leyland in traveling on the X11 during the summer. Perhaps we'll all write a review of our experience - that's if you're interested of course.


RE: New service X11 - Andreos1 - 19 Mar 2021

(19 Mar 2021, 9:23 am)Clifton Hignett III wrote Yes, it's been tough on his wife, Mys Pace Polis, and his kids, Instah and Tyktok. They're all involved in the search for him and I've told them about how wonderful the people on this forum are so they may join to ask questions and share memories of good old Fyacbuk.

To keep this on topic, the Polis' have expressed an interest in accompanying myself and Leyland in traveling on the X11 during the summer. Perhaps we'll all write a review of our experience - that's if you're interested of course.

Yeah, I'm sure myself and other members of the forum would love to hear about the adventures of Clifton, Leyland and 'the Polis family' on your day out on the X11.
Can't wait to hear all about it. Hopefully Fyacbuk rocks up in the meantime. Wouldn't want him to think that yourself or Leyland were making a move on Mys Pace.


RE: New service X11 - busmanT - 20 Mar 2021

(14 Mar 2021, 11:59 pm)mb134 wrote Unless they're taking down two drivers or planning the return for midnight, I can't see how you fit in any more than 1 trip given driver hours.
X11 Timetable now on traveline
Put X11 and Scarborough in the timetable search box, and set the date to 17th April.
https://www.traveline.info/


New service X11 - atlantean560 - 20 Mar 2021

Do you know the outbound and inbound times for the service, link doesnt work for me


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RE: New service X11 - PH - BQA - 20 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 4:55 pm)busmanT wrote X11 Timetable now on Traveline

Interesting it's not departing from Eldon Square. Would have thought they'd try and have it leave from the same place as their other main services into Newcastle. (Reading the initial post again, it was always John Dobson, no idea why I thought otherwise. Silly me).

Otherwise, it's pretty much as expected really. They've been clever in having it leave all main pick-up points before the pensioner passes kick in, so in theory they shouldn't face the same issue ANE did with the X60.

(20 Mar 2021, 6:16 pm)atlantean560 wrote Do you know the outbound and inbound times for the service, link doesnt work for me


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You should be able to go on the Traveline website and search for the X11, putting Newcastle in the "locality" box. That brought it up straight away for me, along with the Blyth service.


RE: New service X11 - omnicity4659 - 20 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 6:27 pm)mb134 wrote Interesting it's not departing from Eldon Square. Would have thought they'd try and have it leave from the same place as their other main services into Newcastle. (Reading the initial post again, it was always John Dobson, no idea why I thought otherwise. Silly me).

Otherwise, it's pretty much as expected really. They've been clever in having it leave all main pick-up points before the pensioner passes kick in, so in theory they shouldn't face the same issue ANE did with the X60.


You should be able to go on the Traveline website and search for the X11, putting Newcastle in the "locality" box. That brought it up straight away for me, along with the Blyth service.

If it's going to be a Saturday only service until the summer months then ENCTS passes will be valid before 0930 anyway.


RE: New service X11 - Rapidsnap - 20 Mar 2021

Plenty of fares from Newcastle to Peterlee. Hope they build recovery time at Peterlee as those with passes rush to the front of the bus and scan them.


New service X11 - cbma06 - 20 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 6:46 pm)omnicity4659 wrote If it's going to be a Saturday only service until the summer months then ENCTS passes will be valid before 0930 anyway.


By the X11 timetable it states Monday to Friday


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RE: New service X11 - BoroLad - 20 Mar 2021

There's been a lot made of the earlier departure times heading south, but I'm more glad to see the later departure times heading north. Day trippers from the North East can now spend six full hours in Scarborough, or seven and a half in Whitby - that's 90 minutes more than the old X60.
(20 Mar 2021, 6:46 pm)Rapidsnap wrote Plenty of fares from Newcastle to Peterlee. Hope they build recovery time at Peterlee as those with passes rush to the front of the bus and scan them.
I expect special fares will apply - the service isn't really about local journeys and probably shouldn't set down passengers southbound or pick up passengers northbound on the Newcastle - Middlesbrough section of route. They could deter that by just having a flat fare on the route - so yes the pass holders can buy their singles to Peterlee, but they'll be more than a single to Peterlee on the X9 and the same as a single to Whitby/Scarborough instead. That'd also stop passengers taking up capacity on this longer distance service when they could use the X9/X10.


RE: New service X11 - Clifton Hignett III - 20 Mar 2021

I'm quite disappointed that this service is set to depart Newcastle before 9:30am. As a pensioner, I was quite looking forward to concessionary pass on the journey down to Scarborough with Leyland, Mys Polis, and the kids. However that doesn't necessarily scupper the plans for our party of five...

Looking at the timetable, it would be possible for me to dawdle down to Whitby on my Jack Jones and catch the X11 down to Scarborough at 14:35 and spending an hour or so with my friends before catching the X11 back to Newcastle at 17:45.

However one thing does worry me....

What would happen if the bus had a full load down to Scarborough but additional passengers wanted to travel back like in the scenario I've presented. Now, being a reasonable man, I would not want to prevent people who bought tickets specifically for that journey from travelling. I mean, I'm a celebrity in the area, there's even a hotel named in my honour called 'The Clifton' so it wouldn't be hard for me to procure a room for me (and perhaps Mys Polis) in the area at short notice for a low fee. But what would happen if some old reprobate decided not to play ball? Could Go North East refuse travel to a potentially vulnerable pensioner with a valid pass? Or would they ask East Yorkshire Motor Services for a loan of a vehicle to duplicate the service?


RE: New service X11 - Storx - 20 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 4:55 pm)busmanT wrote X11 Timetable now on Traveline

Whoever done that timetable is rather optomistic. Really can't see it being able to do Scarborough -> Whitby -> Scarborough in 80 minutes. It can take 20 minutes to get into Whitby at times nevermind the rest of the route.


RE: New service X11 - Jimmi - 21 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 10:08 pm)Storx wrote Whoever done that timetable is rather optomistic. Really can't see it being able to do Scarborough -> Whitby -> Scarborough in 80 minutes. It can take 20 minutes to get into Whitby at times nevermind the rest of the route.
On paper at least it should be fine although in reality there's certain outcomes that can hinder timekeeping on roads like the A171, I remember going to Scarborough in the car once and it took us an hour to do Whitby to Scarborough as we got stuck behind someone who didn't exceed 30mph the whole way there!

The potential of being left behind in Scarborough on the return journey, looking at the timetable that's being circulated, the X11 appears to be using stand U outside Scarborough Rail Station whilst the X93/X94 uses stand S so in theory anybody else wanting Whitby/Boro with a bus pass etc that happens to see the X11 will end up boarding behind those specifically wanting the X11 and in Whitby its seemingly departing from Langborne Road adjacent to the Co-op store as opposed to the Bus Station so *hopefully* this will help to avoid anyone being left behind (although bit of a loss of picking up some potential passengers in Whitby).


RE: New service X11 - PH - BQA - 21 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 6:46 pm)omnicity4659 wrote If it's going to be a Saturday only service until the summer months then ENCTS passes will be valid before 0930 anyway.

Aye but there's nothing they can really do about that. I'd assume the times will be the same when it goes to daily operation, which is what I was getting at.


RE: New service X11 - James101 - 21 Mar 2021

(20 Mar 2021, 9:55 pm)Clifton Hignett III wrote I'm quite disappointed that this service is set to depart Newcastle before 9:30am. As a pensioner, I was quite looking forward to concessionary pass on the journey down to Scarborough with Leyland, Mys Polis, and the kids. However that doesn't necessarily scupper the plans for our party of five...

Looking at the timetable, it would be possible for me to dawdle down to Whitby on my Jack Jones and catch the X11 down to Scarborough at 14:35 and spending an hour or so with my friends before catching the X11 back to Newcastle at 17:45.

However one thing does worry me....

What would happen if the bus had a full load down to Scarborough but additional passengers wanted to travel back like in the scenario I've presented. Now, being a reasonable man, I would not want to prevent people who bought tickets specifically for that journey from travelling. I mean, I'm a celebrity in the area, there's even a hotel named in my honour called 'The Clifton' so it wouldn't be hard for me to procure a room for me (and perhaps Mys Polis) in the area at short notice for a low fee. But what would happen if some old reprobate decided not to play ball? Could Go North East refuse travel to a potentially vulnerable pensioner with a valid pass? Or would they ask East Yorkshire Motor Services for a loan of a vehicle to duplicate the service?

Or there is the option that pass holders could, shock & horror, pay for their carriage. Passes are fantastic for socially and economically necessary journeys where supply of seats is greater than demand. I feel sorry for the inevitable single-parent family from their social housing turned away at Peterlee because the bus is full of pass holders from Jesmond & Gosforth.


RE: New service X11 - Michael - 27 Mar 2021

When is GNE going to start to advertise the new service as its 3 weeks away from starting.


New service X11 - Dan - 27 Mar 2021

(27 Mar 2021, 6:59 pm)Michael wrote When is GNE going to start to advertise the new service as its 3 weeks away from starting.



When the government guidance is no longer ‘stay at home’, i.e from Monday.


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RE: New service X11 - Ambassador - 27 Mar 2021

(27 Mar 2021, 7:19 pm)Dan wrote When the government guidance is no longer ‘stay at home’, i.e from Monday.


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doesn’t the message become Stay Local? Stretch to consider Scarborough local to Newcastle....


RE: New service X11 - omnicity4659 - 27 Mar 2021

(27 Mar 2021, 9:05 pm)Ambassador wrote doesn’t the message become Stay Local? Stretch to consider Scarborough local to Newcastle....

'Stay local' will probably be in guidance, but has never been in English law.


RE: New service X11 - BoroLad - 27 Mar 2021

(27 Mar 2021, 9:05 pm)Ambassador wrote doesn’t the message become Stay Local? Stretch to consider Scarborough local to Newcastle....
Stay local is only going to be guidance for a couple of weeks. The service isn't going to start until mid April which is after the message changes again.


RE: New service X11 - MurdnunoC - 28 Mar 2021

(27 Mar 2021, 9:05 pm)Ambassador wrote doesn’t the message become Stay Local? Stretch to consider Scarborough local to Newcastle....

'Local' isn't an easily definable term.

For example, the group of galaxies which we (The Milky Way) and Andromeda belong to is known as 'The Local Group'. Compared to that, I would consider Scarborough to be local.


RE: New service X11 - JP6004 - 28 Mar 2021

(28 Mar 2021, 3:19 pm)MurdnunoC wrote 'Local' isn't an easily definable term.

For example, the group of galaxies which we (The Milky Way) and Andromeda belong to is known as 'The Local Group'. Compared to that, I would consider Scarborough to be local.
Love it


RE: New service X11 - Andreos1 - 28 Mar 2021

(28 Mar 2021, 3:19 pm)MurdnunoC wrote 'Local' isn't an easily definable term.

For example, the group of galaxies which we (The Milky Way) and Andromeda belong to is known as 'The Local Group'. Compared to that, I would consider Scarborough to be local.

I'm sure GNE could come up with a cheesy copy/paste livery, a random zone structure and manage to work out some sort of loophole to get round tachos on their once a day service to the Milky Way.


New service X11 - TEN 6083 - 29 Mar 2021

For anyone wondering about which vehicle will be used this was posted onto the Enthusiast section on the GNE website in the latest fleet news update.

“The 6-cylinder Wright StreetDeck/Wright StreetDeck Micro-Hybrid 3, 6377 (NK70 BYV), has now returned to Riverside. It will be allocated to the weekends-only X11 service which will begin operation from 17 April. On weekdays, it will act as the spare vehicle for services X9/X10, as full service levels will be restored on these routes from 10 April, requiring seven coaches to be allocated”.

So that gets me thinking what will 7157 be used for https://flic.kr/p/2kHDAwT


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