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RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - peter - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 6:36 pm)Aaron21 wrote The 84/84A is 1 bus as the 84/84A don't run at the same time The 84 and 84A is a bit of a mystery actually, Nexus have a timetable for an hourly 84A on their website but no evidence of the 84. According to BusTimes the 84 and 84A both run hourly, but according to the vehicles tracking GCT are using one vehicle running every 2 hours on each. No wonder nobody's using it when there's not an accurate timetable anywhere lol RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Aaron21 - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 6:54 pm)peter wrote The 84 and 84A is a bit of a mystery actually, Nexus have a timetable for an hourly 84A on their website but no evidence of the 84. According to BusTimes the 84 and 84A both run hourly, but according to the vehicles tracking GCT are using one vehicle running every 2 hours on each.Bustimes.org shows it does two each. 84A/84A to 84/84 to 84A/84A RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Jimmi - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 6:54 pm)peter wrote The 84 and 84A is a bit of a mystery actually, Nexus have a timetable for an hourly 84A on their website but no evidence of the 84. According to BusTimes the 84 and 84A both run hourly, but according to the vehicles tracking GCT are using one vehicle running every 2 hours on each.It's meant to be hourly on both routes (as timetable on BusTimes shows) with each bus changing from an 84 to an 84A at Newcastle and vice versa and has been for years, chances are, either there's something amiss with the tracking or GCT are not running the service as advertised. RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - V514DFT - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 8:15 pm)Jimmi wrote It's meant to be hourly on both routes (as timetable on BusTimes shows) with each bus changing from an 84 to an 84A at Newcastle and vice versa and has been for years, chances are, either there's something amiss with the tracking or GCT are not running the service as advertised.Im thinking the latter, remember how many people said 11'sand 41/41A's weren't turning up when they had those services Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Dan - 02 Mar 2023 (01 Mar 2023, 11:14 pm)Shrek wrote Will GCT be required to accept card payments on all of the services this time? Yes, new contracts specify contactless ETMs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Dan - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 4:19 pm)Storx wrote Not to mention the TB14, TB22, TB23 and TB29 a month later which are all gone. Gateshead Central’s mini E200s are mincap60 (they have a huge number of standees permitted legally, even if it is completely impractical), so meet the contract requirements. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Unber43 - 02 Mar 2023 I know Nexus has a requirment of X amount of seats, but do those X amount of seats ever actually get filled. As I doubt 19 will ever get a QuayCity full. Also what happens say the amount of seats/standing is 40 and the requirment is 45 do the operators have to pay a fine RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Storx - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 10:22 pm)Dan wrote Gateshead Central’s mini E200s are mincap60 (they have a huge number of standees permitted legally, even if it is completely impractical), so meet the contract requirements. Ah wouldn't like to be on any single decker with that many people on board, never mind a short E200. Assuming it's designed for first school children as I can't see it actually being possible. RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Aaron21 - 02 Mar 2023 (02 Mar 2023, 10:51 pm)Unber43 wrote I know Nexus has a requirment of X amount of seats, but do those X amount of seats ever actually get filled.19 on the occasion has gotten full when a Versa was on RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Storx - 03 Mar 2023 (01 Mar 2023, 8:27 am)Aaron21 wrote 51 will still be ran by Arriva between Newcastle & Whitley Bay however evening trips will operate between Newcastle & Holystone Park with a different operater Was just thinking about this, does anyone know if the W2 is the new W2 or the old W2 as if this goes ahead then it means there's going to be absolutely no bus service between Sainsbury's and Whitley Bay via Whitley Lodge in an evening. I understand cost cutting etc but this is a massive area to have absolutely nothing beyond 6pm or whatever who has always had an hourly service at least especially if you want people out of cars and there's really no alternative without a long walk. RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Aaron21 - 03 Mar 2023 (03 Mar 2023, 10:48 pm)Storx wrote Was just thinking about this, does anyone know if the W2 is the new W2 or the old W2 as if this goes ahead then it means there's going to be absolutely no bus service between Sainsbury's and Whitley Bay via Whitley Lodge in an evening.The W2 is staying the exact same RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - logidoodah - 27 Mar 2023 Sorry but I'm getting lost trying to scroll back through this thread. Can someone please make a list of what services got awarded to who... Thanks in advance RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - NEbushopper - 27 Mar 2023 Services in the public consultation 41/41A cut between Howdon & Hadrian Park (11 people wanted it kept) 51/W2 is the biggest one by far. The 51/W2 had a grand total of 228 responses to the consultation with most of them not wanting the cut. 51 will still be ran by Arriva between Newcastle & Whitley Bay however evening trips will operate between Newcastle & Holystone Park with a different operater W2 will continue to operate the same route & timetable & operater 84/84A will be withdrawn (7 people objection to the plan) 552/M6 will be withdrawn. 16 response came from the M6 & 1 person from the 552. Local council will talk with nexus to decide on an idea for the people living in Vale House as they call it a transport shopper K2 will be withdrawn W1 had 8 responses. 5 were opposed, 2 asked for a route change & 1 was happy with the changes. They can't make the asked change but the W1 will have a different operater Not in any order but here they are: 51 Haymarket - Whitley Bay: Evening trips to GNE. All other trips are still run by Arriva Stagecoach: 18, 32/32A, 35, 54 and 317. Gateshead Central Taxis have retained the 335, 342 and gained the 19 and X46 Phoenix has got the W1 This is all from other contributions to the thread RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - DeltaMan - 27 Mar 2023 (03 Mar 2023, 10:48 pm)Storx wrote Was just thinking about this, does anyone know if the W2 is the new W2 or the old W2 as if this goes ahead then it means there's going to be absolutely no bus service between Sainsbury's and Whitley Bay via Whitley Lodge in an evening.According to the consultation, the residents were offered an hourly all day service, and it appears they rejected it (or those that shouted loudest got what they wanted) RE: Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023 - Storx - 27 Mar 2023 (27 Mar 2023, 3:31 pm)DeltaMan wrote According to the consultation, the residents were offered an hourly all day service, and it appears they rejected it (or those that shouted loudest got what they wanted) Aye I seen, I thought they might've gone ahead with the new W2 in addition to the 51 during the day. Would've gave a 30 minute bus route throughout rather than the bizarre 30 minute plus hourly service duplicating each other between Briardene and Whitley Bay. As I said in the other thread they should scrap the W2 and use it to fund the 51 and 54 in the evening instead imo, should be the same driver hours give or take and actually offer something useful. Shiremoor has a piss poor service now and Backworth and North Whitley Bay have nothing in an evening. It's just wrong even if there's not much demand there. |