(20 Oct 2025, 4:23 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote It does look badly damaged, it will take a few months off the road to get fixed before returning back in service

(20 Oct 2025, 3:05 pm)Bob5666 wrote Not badly damaged to so it will be repaired

(20 Oct 2025, 4:31 pm)Storx wrote I'm unsure it will be personally. There's loads of spares around doing paint duties and they'll be getting withdrawn soon anyway. 

Unless the insurance pays for it, I can't see it getting repaired.

(20 Oct 2025, 5:24 pm)Bob5666 wrote There have a few spares  so perhaps one if those could come out to  don't forget  10 pulsars will be heading to Durham under 3 weeks as Durham  will be head of the x12s

(20 Oct 2025, 4:31 pm)Storx wrote I'm unsure it will be personally. There's loads of spares around doing paint duties and they'll be getting withdrawn soon anyway. 

Unless the insurance pays for it, I can't see it getting repaired.

(28 Oct 2025, 9:58 am)Superman wrote 1405 is withdrawn as expected, according to the November allocation.

(28 Oct 2025, 6:55 pm)Superman wrote The full list of 2 November fleet changes as follows:

1357 from Darlington to Disposal
1370 from Stockton to Redcar
1376 from Stockton to Redcar
1378 from Stockton to Redcar
1389 from Stockton to Blyth
1405 from Stockton to Disposal
1422 from Stockton to Reserve Fleet
1430 from Stockton to Reserve Fleet
1432 from Stockton to Reserve Fleet
1441 from Blyth to Durham
1442 from Stockton to Durham
1443 from Blyth to Durham
1482 from Blyth to Durham
1530 from Reserve Fleet to Disposal
1534 from Stockton to Training School
1589 from Durham to Darlington
2601 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2602 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2603 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2841 from Darlington to Disposal
3052 from Reserve Fleet to Ashington
3053 from Reserve Fleet to Darlington
3905 from Reserve Fleet to Disposal
4701 from Redcar to Disposal
4702 from Redcar to Disposal
4709 from Redcar to Arriva Midlands
4718 from Redcar to Arriva Midlands
4719 from Redcar to Arriva Midlands
4721 from Redcar to Disposal
4724 from Redcar to Disposal
7526 from Blyth to Ashington
7578 from Redcar to Blyth (temp repaint cover)
7579 from Redcar to Blyth (temp repaint cover)
7580 from Redcar to Blyth (temp repaint cover)
7581 from Redcar to Reserve Fleet
7609 from Redcar to Disposal
7610 from Redcar to Disposal

(28 Oct 2025, 8:26 pm)solsburian wrote It's a shame that 7609/10 are going for disposal rather than re-joining their fleetmates at Blyth. I guess the cost of Euro 6 conversion is not worth it considering their age.

(28 Oct 2025, 6:55 pm)Superman wrote The full list of 2 November fleet changes as follows:

1357 from Darlington to Disposal
1370 from Stockton to Redcar
1376 from Stockton to Redcar
1378 from Stockton to Redcar
1389 from Stockton to Blyth
1405 from Stockton to Disposal
1422 from Stockton to Reserve Fleet
1430 from Stockton to Reserve Fleet
1432 from Stockton to Reserve Fleet
1441 from Blyth to Durham
1442 from Stockton to Durham
1443 from Blyth to Durham
1482 from Blyth to Durham
1530 from Reserve Fleet to Disposal
1534 from Stockton to Training School
1589 from Durham to Darlington
2601 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2602 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2603 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2841 from Darlington to Disposal
3052 from Reserve Fleet to Ashington
3053 from Reserve Fleet to Darlington
3905 from Reserve Fleet to Disposal
4701 from Redcar to Disposal
4702 from Redcar to Disposal
4709 from Redcar to Arriva Midlands
4718 from Redcar to Arriva Midlands
4719 from Redcar to Arriva Midlands
4721 from Redcar to Disposal
4724 from Redcar to Disposal
7526 from Blyth to Ashington
7578 from Redcar to Blyth (temp repaint cover)
7579 from Redcar to Blyth (temp repaint cover)
7580 from Redcar to Blyth (temp repaint cover)
7581 from Redcar to Reserve Fleet
7609 from Redcar to Disposal
7610 from Redcar to Disposal

(28 Oct 2025, 9:29 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote 5 X12 boards are going to Durham which means 5 pulsars to Durham you've only got 4 pulsars down to go to Durham so I'm guessing the 5th one will be 1419

(28 Oct 2025, 8:55 pm)Superman wrote It was never going to happen either way, as the older 59 plate Geminis are all expected to be scrapped when the electrics come in.

(28 Oct 2025, 6:55 pm)Superman wrote The full list of 2 November fleet changes as follows:

2601 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2602 from Ashington to Arriva North West
2603 from Ashington to Arriva North West
3052 from Reserve Fleet to Ashington

(28 Oct 2025, 10:09 pm)Arriva7446 wrote It's a shame if all the 59 plate Gemini's go. Some of them are still very solid. Would make more sense to withdraw Pulsars of the same age or 10 plate I would have thought. Eg could withdraw 1390 - 94 and then send 1501 - 5 to Ashington to replace them and keep some of the 59 plates at Blyth which would mean more deckers for Blyth services.

(28 Oct 2025, 10:20 pm)davao123 wrote What's with Temsa's 4709/4718/4719 to Arriva Midlands?  Spares for parts for the Temsa coaches down that way or what?

(28 Oct 2025, 10:29 pm)solsburian wrote Yeah, I assumed that the BYD deckers would replacing the 57/58 plate Envoro 400s for the 43/44/45 and the rest of Blyth's deckers staying for the time being. Anyway I am straying off topic.

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Yes it seems quite odd unless they have common parts for those. I oner if one will enter preservation

(28 Oct 2025, 11:19 pm)Bob5666 wrote Won't be for parts total different vechale all together  from the temsas there have which are coaches

(28 Oct 2025, 10:20 pm)davao123 wrote What's with Temsa's 4709/4718/4719 to Arriva Midlands?  Spares for parts for the Temsa coaches down that way or what?

(28 Oct 2025, 10:20 pm)davao123 wrote What's with Temsa's 4709/4718/4719 to Arriva Midlands?  Spares for parts for the Temsa coaches down that way or what?

(28 Oct 2025, 9:39 pm)PH - BQA wrote 7526 being the only decker to move to Ashington is mental too given the increase in deckers required on the Morpeth corridor (+3). 3 72-plate MMCs meanwhile going to crawl around on the Blyth routes, while a 11 year old E400 is sent for the X18 increase. Make it make sense.

(29 Oct 2025, 8:54 am)Superman wrote Its understood Midlands are taking the Temsas for their engines/other major units only. If they do indeed use them on a temp basis, that is not confirmed.

The engines are common Cummins models that can be reused. The agreement was that Midlands would take the entire bus and remove the major components themselves.



The three MMCs are just up at Blyth for now while the repaints get done, they’ll be back down to Redcar once that’s all sorted.

Ashington’s set to get about 20 new double-deckers as part of the 2026 order, which by the sounds of it’s getting placed any day now. It’s part of a bigger ANE order, just shy of 70 buses all in. Then ye’ve got the Blyth, Durham and Darlington electrics to come as well, which should take the 2026 intake for ANE to just under 120 new motors, maybe even creeping into early 2027 depending on how the build slots land.

As folk’ve said a few times on here, the investment and fleet renewal’s ticking along bit by bit, can’t all happen overnight. Arriva Yorkshire’s due about 50 new vehicles from the end of December too, so if it all comes together, we’ll be looking at around 170 new buses across the North East and Yorkshire by the end of 2026.

Inside the company, the short- and medium-term allocations are all made for their own reasons, even if they divvent always make much sense from the outside. There’ll be a reason behind it somewhere.

(29 Oct 2025, 9:50 am)Bob5666 wrote And been mentioned 1389 is transferring to Blyth

(29 Oct 2025, 10:17 am)busesofthenortheast wrote I've been told 1389 is going to Blyth on loan for repaint cover with 7578-7580

(28 Oct 2025, 9:39 pm)PH - BQA wrote Assume it'll be the following leaving the fleet when the electrics arrive?

7501-7/9 - 8 buses
7514-6/8-21 - 6 buses
7557/8/60/62 - 4 buses
7601-8/11-15 - 13 buses

Total of 31, how many electric deckers are due again?

(29 Oct 2025, 11:58 am)Storx wrote Guess it depends whether the Ashington Diesels or Durham's electrics come first?

On paper, 1463/80/93/95/97/1501-5, 7501-7/9, 7557/8/60/2, 7601-8/11-15 need to go from Blyth as they're either old or inappropiate (37 vehicles) and you might aswell get rid of the last 4 random E400's while your at it aswell since Ashington has gained another lately so suggests they aren't staying (41 Vehicles)

Blyth: 14x New Electrics
Ashington: 12x 17 Plate E400MMC's
Durham: 14x 16 Plate E400MMC's

Would sort it all out on paper... With the E400's and Pulsar's not needed being sent South for upgrades down there, 1501-5 heading to Ashington replace 1390-4.

(29 Oct 2025, 12:05 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Two of Durham's E400MMCs are earmarked for Whitby Park and Ride should Arriva retain the contract. Likewise, the rest are also earmarked for transfer to Darlington once Durham's electrics arrive next year, allowing the withdrawn of the 09 plate E400s there as well as a number of Pulsars to allow an increased decker allocation at the depot.

(29 Oct 2025, 12:40 pm)Storx wrote Yeah that's fair, had a feeling that might have been the case, guessing it's the Ashington vehicles which will be replacing stuff instead then, rather than electrics as it doesn't work otherwise. 

I'm going to put this out there and guess that something is going to end up at Whitby for the X93/X94 (no doubt ex Ashington) with the B9TL's heading elsewhere, probably Durham if the MMC's are all heading to Darlington since something is needed there as having newer buses on the P&R doesn't make sense?