(16 Sep 2019, 10:05 am)Kuyoyo wrote PB0003954/1095 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street to Newcastle, Eldon Square
Service number: 97 (X97)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 27 Oct 2019

PB0003954/1079 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Sunderland to Peterlee
Service number: X6 (X7)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 27 Oct 2019

PB0003954/580 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Whitley Bay, The Links to Metrocentre
Service number: 1 (1A,1B)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 27 Oct 2019
Vary timetable

PB0003954/285 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Market Stree to Newcastle Market Street
Service number: 53 (54)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 27 Oct 2019
Variation to timetable

PB0003954/86 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Gateshead Metro to Gateshead Metro via Team Valley, Heworth
Service number: 93 (94)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 27 Oct 2019
Vary route and timetable

this is because the 93/94 is going to every 20 Mins bar aat peak times when be more buses just been told today iof driver

(10 Oct 2019, 10:56 am)jamjam9207 wrote

this is because the 93/94 is going to every 20 Mins bar aat peak times when be more buses just been told today iof driver

Hopefully they can operate the peak journeys in both directions at both am & pm...

(10 Oct 2019, 11:45 am)S830OFT wrote

Hopefully they can operate the peak journeys in both directions at both am & pm...

(10 Oct 2019, 10:56 am)jamjam9207 wrote

this is because the 93/94 is going to every 20 Mins bar aat peak times when be more buses just been told today iof driver

(10 Oct 2019, 2:14 pm)deanmachine wrote Think the loops are a complete waste of a B9TL if they ever get cascaded, this just further proves the point that they don't even justify a 15 minute service.

Waste of a B9? I would hardly say the ex-London ones are the best.

I think it depends what section of the route its on. The 94 is always busier on the way to the valley and felling rather than Heworth. The 93 always generally busier towards the QE and the valley as opposed to coming into Gateshead. Overall I think they have fairly decent loads and warrant a DD allocation if being reduced to every 20 minutes.

But I have always thought that the route into the retail park is a bit odd. It passes the entrance/ exit to the bus stop and gets stuck in traffic at the roundabout. Then loop back on to the roundabout to continue down the valley. Why not just use the other entrance to the retail park bus stop?

(10 Oct 2019, 2:45 pm)JP6004 wrote

Waste of a B9? I would hardly say the ex-London ones are the best.

I think it depends what section of the route its on. The 94 is always busier on the way to the valley and felling rather than Heworth. The 93 always generally busier towards the QE and the valley as opposed to coming into Gateshead. Overall I think they have fairly decent loads and warrant a DD allocation if being reduced to every 20 minutes.

But I have always thought that the route into the retail park is a bit odd. It passes the entrance/ exit to the bus stop and gets stuck in traffic at the roundabout. Then loop back on to the roundabout to continue down the valley. Why not just use the other entrance to the retail park bus stop?

I must say, whenever I've been on The Loop (after all these years, I still can't remember which way is which!) during the day between Gateshead and Team Valley, it's been dead, maybe a handful of other people on but that's about it.

I've never understood the stops, surely it would be a lot more convenient for the bus to actually serve Retail World rather than having to walk miles (well, what feels like miles) to actually get to the shops

(10 Oct 2019, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote

I must say, whenever I've been on The Loop (after all these years, I still can't remember which way is which!) during the day between Gateshead and Team Valley, it's been dead, maybe a handful of other people on but that's about it.

I've never understood the stops, surely it would be a lot more convenient for the bus to actually serve Retail World rather than having to walk miles (well, what feels like miles) to actually get to the shops

93 Heworth to Valley

94 Gateshead to Valley

I think it is largely to do with the shear amount of traffic heading into the retail park

(10 Oct 2019, 11:57 am)Michael wrote New timetables online,it confirms the 93/94 going to every 20 minutes

(10 Oct 2019, 2:45 pm)JP6004 wrote

Waste of a B9? I would hardly say the ex-London ones are the best.

I think it depends what section of the route its on. The 94 is always busier on the way to the valley and felling rather than Heworth. The 93 always generally busier towards the QE and the valley as opposed to coming into Gateshead. Overall I think they have fairly decent loads and warrant a DD allocation if being reduced to every 20 minutes.

But I have always thought that the route into the retail park is a bit odd. It passes the entrance/ exit to the bus stop and gets stuck in traffic at the roundabout. Then loop back on to the roundabout to continue down the valley. Why not just use the other entrance to the retail park bus stop?

Even if the 93 turned left prior to the roundabout and used the 'bus station', it would save time.

To be honest, I've no idea why the road behind Mothercare can't be adapted to suit the buses and make it bi-directional for the entire length.

(10 Oct 2019, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote

I must say, whenever I've been on The Loop (after all these years, I still can't remember which way is which!) during the day between Gateshead and Team Valley, it's been dead, maybe a handful of other people on but that's about it.

I've never understood the stops, surely it would be a lot more convenient for the bus to actually serve Retail World rather than having to walk miles (well, what feels like miles) to actually get to the shops

It used to stop on the main road outside Retail World, but was curtailed to its current route a while back, due to the traffic heading in and out.

The stop was just shy of where Mcdonalds is now, on the left hand side.

(10 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm)Andreos1 wrote

Even if the 93 turned left prior to the roundabout and used the 'bus station', it would save time.

To be honest, I've no idea why the road behind Mothercare can't be adapted to suit the buses and make it bi-directional for the entire length.

It used to stop on the main road outside Retail World, but was curtailed to its current route a while back, due to the traffic heading in and out.

The stop was just shy of where Mcdonalds is now, on the left hand side.

Yes there was a bus stop on the mothercare side but seems to be of taken away a while ago

(10 Oct 2019, 2:45 pm)JP6004 wrote

Waste of a B9? I would hardly say the ex-London ones are the best.

I think it depends what section of the route its on. The 94 is always busier on the way to the valley and felling rather than Heworth. The 93 always generally busier towards the QE and the valley as opposed to coming into Gateshead. Overall I think they have fairly decent loads and warrant a DD allocation if being reduced to every 20 minutes.

But I have always thought that the route into the retail park is a bit odd. It passes the entrance/ exit to the bus stop and gets stuck in traffic at the roundabout. Then loop back on to the roundabout to continue down the valley. Why not just use the other entrance to the retail park bus stop?

I just think the 58 would be much more deserving of a 'Decker allocation than the Loops. That actually does get busy enough all through the day to warrant them. I've driven the Loops in the past, as well as used them in College and I've never had a full standing load, outside of 8-9am on the 94.

(10 Oct 2019, 5:24 pm)deanmachine wrote

I just think the 58 would be much more deserving of a 'Decker allocation than the Loops. That actually does get busy enough all through the day to warrant them. I've driven the Loops in the past, as well as used them in College and I've never had a full standing load, outside of 8-9am on the 94.

Would be a bit of a downgrade to B9s. They aren't the nicest buses

(10 Oct 2019, 5:38 pm)JP6004 wrote

Would be a bit of a downgrade to B9s. They aren't the nicest buses

I don't see how they're a downgrade from a Versa, not like they have USBs and e-Leather, I'd rather have a seat on a B9 then be a sardine on a "nicer" Versa.

(10 Oct 2019, 3:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote

I must say, whenever I've been on The Loop (after all these years, I still can't remember which way is which!) during the day between Gateshead and Team Valley, it's been dead, maybe a handful of other people on but that's about it.

I've never understood the stops, surely it would be a lot more convenient for the bus to actually serve Retail World rather than having to walk miles (well, what feels like miles) to actually get to the shops

It did used to stop at the edge of the car park, opposite where topps tiles is. (edit to acknowledge that other people have made the same point!)

(24 Oct 2019, 4:34 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote Any reason for the Extension to the X5/X15, is it replacing something, or is it something new because of increased Demand?

It’s mainly going on unserved roads so increasing ridership. Also with Shotley bridge hospital being pretty much empty of services, I’d guess there might be a demand from the areas being served.

(24 Oct 2019, 5:25 am)Stanleyone wrote Couple of changes from 3rd of November.

V9 re-routed to serve Elm Park (Shotley Bridge)

X5/X15 extended from Consett to Shotley Bridge & Benfieldside (X5 clockwise loop / X15 anti-clockwise loop) pvr increase to 4.

Changes on Vosa site for Lumier.

(24 Oct 2019, 9:16 pm)Wybus wrote Although the extension doesn’t run at school times, so they won’t need any additional buses in total.

1 bus will presumably go on an/pm scholars but a quick look at the following;

09:15 CBS

09:53 DBS arr

10:00 DBS dep

10:39 CBS arr

10:44 CBS dep

Shotley Bridge loop

11:10 CBS arr

Equal to 4 buses, currently 3. Hope that clears it.

(25 Oct 2019, 9:51 am)Stanleyone wrote

1 bus will presumably go on an/pm scholars but a quick look at the following;

09:15 CBS

09:53 DBS arr

10:00 DBS dep

10:39 CBS arr

10:44 CBS dep

Shotley Bridge loop

11:10 CBS arr

Equal to 4 buses, currently 3. Hope that clears it.

(24 Oct 2019, 5:25 am)Stanleyone wrote Couple of changes from 3rd of November.

V9 re-routed to serve Elm Park (Shotley Bridge)

X5/X15 extended from Consett to Shotley Bridge & Benfieldside (X5 clockwise loop / X15 anti-clockwise loop) pvr increase to 4.

Changes on Vosa site for Lumier.

So when the V9 reaches the end of Benfieldside Road in Shotley Bridge, it will turn right instead past Elm Park, up towards Medomsley then go down Ebchester Bank past the Derwent Walk Inn to Ebchester?

Buses coming back from Chopwell will struggle going up Ebchester Bank the other way for sure if that is the case.

(25 Oct 2019, 10:52 am)DH9 wrote

So when the V9 reaches the end of Benfieldside Road in Shotley Bridge, it will turn right instead past Elm Park, up towards Medomsley then go down Ebchester Bank past the Derwent Walk Inn to Ebchester?

Buses coming back from Chopwell will struggle going up Ebchester Bank the other way for sure if that is the case.

In my opinion if it’s a streetlite it will struggle, but some of those minibuses will be ok.

(25 Oct 2019, 10:52 am)DH9 wrote

So when the V9 reaches the end of Benfieldside Road in Shotley Bridge, it will turn right instead past Elm Park, up towards Medomsley then go down Ebchester Bank past the Derwent Walk Inn to Ebchester?

Buses coming back from Chopwell will struggle going up Ebchester Bank the other way for sure if that is the case.

Assuming that these changes are connected to the conversation in the tender thread a few months back.

https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=848&page=51

Not a bad little earner diverting one service and extending another, using a vehicle that would otherwise be standing idle.

Hopefully the services are sustainable enough to last beyond the end of the funding.

(25 Oct 2019, 1:01 pm)Andreos1 wrote

Assuming that these changes are connected to the conversation in the tender thread a few months back.

https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=848&page=51

Not a bad little earner diverting one service and extending another, using a vehicle that would otherwise be standing idle.

Hopefully the services are sustainable enough to last beyond the end of the funding.

Yes it is, other improvements to the services include retrofitting free Wi-Fi and Next Stop Announcements.

(25 Oct 2019, 1:04 pm)Dan wrote

Yes it is, other improvements to the services include retrofitting free Wi-Fi and Next Stop Announcements.

(24 Oct 2019, 4:34 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote Any reason for the Extension to the X5/X15, is it replacing something, or is it something new because of increased Demand?

(30 Oct 2019, 8:39 pm)Jimbo wrote

  will this replace the Tesco bus T1

I don't personally believe it will, somebody is paying out for that contract to run -- and it has stipulations about when and where you can board.