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Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - tyresmoke - 10 Dec 2024
(Yesterday, 7:45 pm)Mike_98 wrote With all these North West Pulsars coming to Teesside, do we have any news whats happening to the only Centro left in the fleet?
Also is there any Pulsar 1's coming or is it purely Pulsar 2's.
A mix of both… 1534 is down to be withdrawn - but I’m sure it’ll find a way to survive once again!
30 in total coming for the NE fleet, 5 going to Yorkshire to kill Tempos (3 arrived on Sunday) and I believe 20 (some of which have moved already) for Derby/Midlands to bin their Scanias
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RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - davao123 - 10 Dec 2024
(Yesterday, 7:51 pm)tyresmoke wrote A mix of both… 1534 is down to be withdrawn - but I’m sure it’ll find a way to survive once again!
30 in total coming for the NE fleet, 5 going to Yorkshire to kill Tempos (3 arrived on Sunday) and I believe 20 (some of which have moved already) for Derby/Midlands to bin their Scanias
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Unfortunately 4 was meant to arrive at Yorkshire on Sunday, but one broke down on the way it looks like that pulsar in question now, will be going to scrap and another one will be sent in its place.
(Yesterday, 7:45 pm)Mike_98 wrote With all these North West Pulsars coming to Teesside, do we have any news whats happening to the only Centro left in the fleet?
Also is there any Pulsar 1's coming or is it purely Pulsar 2's.
Most likely Pulsar 2s. 09/59/10 plates I assume
I imagine any Pulsar 1s still in the North West will more than likely be heading to scrap
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Storx - 11 Dec 2024
(08 Dec 2024, 4:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote 1404 going back from Ashington would make sense if 1418-29 are going to Stockton. That’s 9 from Redcar (18/20/21/23-27/29) and 1404 makes 10 displacing 10 Streetlites to NW in return for 10 Evora’s.
23 NW Pulsars allegedly heading for Redcar, how many are expected at Ashington?
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imo there'd be much better doing
1404: Ashington to Stockton
1462/1463/1497: Ashington to Darlington
1356/1357: Darlington to Withdrawn
1406/1408/1409/1411/1416/1417/1431/1437: Darlington to Stockton
1418/1420/1421/1423/1424/1425/1426/1427/1429/1433: Redcar to Stockton
10x Streetlite - North West
9x Streetlite - Ashington
7x Streetlite - Darlington
30x NW Pulsar: Redcar / Stockton
10x Evora: Redcar
Then any future orders are focused on Stockton, Redcar and Blyth since Ashington, Darlington and Durham are pretty much sorted until 2027 at least in terms of investment to get shot of the 09/59 Pulsars and 59 Gemini's.
Much easier to have everything combined together rather than microfleets all over the place.
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Mark66t - 11 Dec 2024
(11 hours ago)Storx wrote imo there'd be much better doing
1404: Ashington to Stockton
1462/1463/1497: Ashington to Darlington
1356/1357: Darlington to Withdrawn
1406/1408/1409/1411/1416/1417/1431/1437: Darlington to Stockton
1418/1420/1421/1423/1424/1425/1426/1427/1429/1433: Redcar to Stockton
10x Streetlite - North West
9x Streetlite - Ashington
7x Streetlite - Darlington
30x NW Pulsar: Redcar / Stockton
10x Evora: Redcar
Then any future orders are focused on Stockton, Redcar and Blyth since Ashington, Darlington and Durham are pretty much sorted until 2027 at least in terms of investment to get shot of the 09/59 Pulsars and 59 Gemini's.
Much easier to have everything combined together rather than microfleets all over the place.
Think ur getting ahead here as 1423 24 25 26 27 33 aren't on. Any list of moments that's been mentioned and also on fb 1462 was mentioned it was down for Redcar
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Spottybus17 - 11 Dec 2024
(8 hours ago)Mark66t wrote Think ur getting ahead here as 1423 24 25 26 27 33 aren't on. Any list of moments that's been mentioned and also on fb 1462 was mentioned it was down for Redcar
1418/1420/1421/1423/1424/1425/1426/1427 & 1429 are on the list to be moved to Stockton so your the one who is not getting ahead here.
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Mark66t - 11 Dec 2024
Question for u why would Redcar get shot of pulsars when the temsas are getting withdrawn ?
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Storx - 11 Dec 2024
(8 hours ago)Mark66t wrote Think ur getting ahead here as 1423 24 25 26 27 33 aren't on. Any list of moments that's been mentioned and also on fb 1462 was mentioned it was down for Redcar
To be fair most of them won't be on, it was more about cleaning where things are rather than having microfleets all over the place.
Arriva badly imo need to try and decide who has what rather than microfleets all over the place. There's no need for Streetlite's at 4 depots. Durham and Ashington imo should be converted to full Streetlite single decker operation with their Pulsars moved out, there's barely any at either now anyway.
That's Ashington and Durham both sorted for fleet investment for years, with all the 12/13/63 Pulsars heading to Darlington and again sorting them out for awhile. You could put some older ones on the 2 as there's electrics planned for that in the future.
Means then all the investment can be focused on Stockton and Redcar who both probably deserve some as they've got some strong routes and the fleet is like a heritage fleet at both ie. massive order at Stockton to replace all the 09/59 Plates which are all now allocated there. Well and they're not affected by franchising like the Northern depots.
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Ryland - 11 Dec 2024
(8 hours ago)Spottybus17 wrote 1418/1420/1421/1423/1424/1425/1426/1427 & 1429 are on the list to be moved to Stockton so your the one who is not getting ahead here.
I thought these weren't moving from redcar
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Aaron21 - 11 Dec 2024
(6 hours ago)Mark66t wrote I can confirm there not I asked nothing is leaving Redcar part from temsas
Ah yes
A spotter asking a driver for info hahahaha makes me laugh these days
Yea drivers know absolutely everything
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Mike_98 - 11 Dec 2024
Like what Storx said. However, I don't think Redcar should lose some of their Pulsars they have had for ages like 1433. Stockton also may as well swap their Lites with Darlo and Ashington for some of their Pulsars to keep them from having microfleets everywhere. This is what I would do.
Northumbria to Stockton:
1404, 1462, 1463, 1480, 1493, 1495, 1496, 1497
Stockton to Northumbria:
1556, 1557, 1558, 1559, 1560, 1561, 1562, 1563
Darlington to Stockton:
1406, 1408, 1409, 1411, 1416, 1417, 1431, 1437
Stockton to Darlington:
1550, 1551, 1552, 1553, 1554, 1555, 1473, 1474
10 Brand New Evoras to Redcar
23x+ Pulsars from North West to Redcar to Replace Temsas and Centro
Then theres the question with the Solos at Whitby and the DB300's
People would hate me for this but maybe
Redcar to Northumbria:
7609, 7610
Northumbria to Redcar:
7551, 7552
That'll sort the Park and Ride Contract for like 8 Years. Also with all the DB's up there, it gives them a case to buy an extra 2 new vehicles when all of them get withdrawn. No point of having the DB's in Redcar for them to Micro Manage them.
EDIT: Then I would have:
Stockton to Redcar:
1431,1432, 1437
Redcar to Stockton:
1418, 1420, 1421
RE: Fleet Changes - Winter 2024 - Storx - 11 Dec 2024
(2 hours ago)Mike_98 wrote Like what Storx said. However, I don't think Redcar should lose some of their Pulsars they have had for ages like 1433. Stockton also may as well swap their Lites with Darlo and Ashington for some of their Pulsars to keep them from having microfleets everywhere. This is what I would do.
Northumbria to Stockton:
1404, 1462, 1463, 1480, 1493, 1495, 1496, 1497
Stockton to Northumbria:
1556, 1557, 1558, 1559, 1560, 1561, 1562, 1563
Darlington to Stockton:
1406, 1408, 1409, 1411, 1416, 1417, 1431, 1437
Stockton to Darlington:
1550, 1551, 1552, 1553, 1554, 1555, 1473, 1474
10 Brand New Evoras to Redcar
23x+ Pulsars from North West to Redcar to Replace Temsas and Centro
Then theres the question with the Solos at Whitby and the DB300's
People would hate me for this but maybe
Redcar to Northumbria:
7609, 7610
Northumbria to Redcar:
7551, 7552
That'll sort the Park and Ride Contract for like 8 Years. Also with all the DB's up there, it gives them a case to buy an extra 2 new vehicles when all of them get withdrawn. No point of having the DB's in Redcar for them to Micro Manage them.
EDIT: Then I would have:
Stockton to Redcar:
1431,1432, 1437
Redcar to Stockton:
1418, 1420, 1421
Aye, need an extra 5 at Ashington though.
To be honest I'd probably be tempted to do it the opposite way and send the Streetlite's down from Ashington in return for Pulsars tbh but send some of the newer ones ie. send 1509/1510/1511/1514-1523 to Ashington in return for their 8 Streetlite's instead with 1601-7 from Darlington joining them. Then spread the remaining Streetlite's out between Darlington and Durham instead.
The Streetlite's are a bit of a microfleet really with the allocations on paper at Ashington being:
1509/1510/1511/1514/5: 57/57A
1516-19: 1
1520-1523: 2
1479/1512/1513: X16/777
Would be an upgrade really up here since the Solo's are going and no-one will be moaning about the loss of a year or two from the Streetlite's.