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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 14 Aug 2019
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(14 Aug 2019, 5:25 pm)Cock Robin wrote They always reckoned it couldn't go via Teesside Park due to congestion !
</p><p><br></p><p>Resource used on S1 will be added to X12 - so plenty of extra time being added in (making it a 5 hour round trip one presumes).</p>
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 15 Aug 2019
So if they're not even saving a bus what's the point in slowing down the "X" 12 even further?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - S830OFT - 15 Aug 2019
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(15 Aug 2019, 9:55 am)Cock Robin wrote So if they're not even saving a bus what's the point in slowing down the "X" 12 even further?
</p><p>It will open up opportunities for passengers from County Durham and Tyne and Wear to travel directly to the park...</p>
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 15 Aug 2019
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(15 Aug 2019, 12:10 pm)S830OFT wrote </p><p>
</p><p>It will open up opportunities for passengers from County Durham and Tyne and Wear to travel directly to the park...</p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Not that it has anything we don't have closer to home. </p>
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 15 Aug 2019
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 05 Sep 2019
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Route: Battle Hill to Regent Centre
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Sep 2019
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Route: Durham to Cockfield
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Effective date: 27 Oct 2019
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - S830OFT - 12 Sep 2019
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(12 Sep 2019, 5:25 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/200 Registered
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Route: Horden to Durham Framwellgate Moor
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</p><p>Looks like the Horden X24 is going, although I hope the X24 can be revised into a combination of 24s & X24s so the 2x buses an hour can be retained...</p>
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 12 Sep 2019
(12 Sep 2019, 6:50 pm)S830OFT wrote <p>
</p><p>Looks like the Horden X24 is going, although I hope the X24 can be revised into a combination of 24s & X24s so the 2x buses an hour can be retained...</p>
Leave the half hourly 24 alone, X24 is just a waste, every time I see it in the morning it leaves Peterlee/Shotton the same time as the normal 24, if you want to get to Durham a little tiny bit earlier then get the Durham bound bus abit earlier, about time there took the x24 off there’s nowt expressy about it.
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 12 Sep 2019
All that’s happening is the X24 has been moved onto the 24 registration rather than being on a separate one - like most peak express trips are.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 12 Sep 2019
(12 Sep 2019, 7:18 pm)Kuyoyo wrote All that’s happening is the X24 has been moved onto the 24 registration rather than being on a separate one - like most peak express trips are.
Are the x21/x22 changes at the Southend of the routes?
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 12 Sep 2019
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(12 Sep 2019, 7:46 pm)cbma06 wrote Are the x21/x22 changes at the Southend of the routes? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</p><p><br></p><p>No, understand the route changes are in Peterlee.</p>
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 12 Sep 2019
(12 Sep 2019, 7:48 pm)Kuyoyo wrote <p></p><p><br></p><p>No, understand the route changes are in Peterlee.</p>
Ok, are there taking the x22 out of Pennine drive and put it down burnhope way past the college same as the x21? Or is the x22 swapping in Peterlee with the 22 route? Or am I not close [emoji1787]
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Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - 2bagstew - 12 Sep 2019
All I know is that the X21/22 will operate the same route within the Peterlee area.
Also on the X22 there will be other change to route on early and late runs.
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 12 Sep 2019
(12 Sep 2019, 7:13 pm)cbma06 wrote Leave the half hourly 24 alone, X24 is just a waste, every time I see it in the morning it leaves Peterlee/Shotton the same time as the normal 24, if you want to get to Durham a little tiny bit earlier then get the Durham bound bus abit earlier, about time there took the x24 off there’s nowt expressy about it.
Was the fresh air express back when it did a few trips a day, there's a reason why it got cut back again... Just get the 22 if you want a shorter trip from Peterlee Bus Station to Durham
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 12 Sep 2019
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(12 Sep 2019, 7:13 pm)cbma06 wrote Leave the half hourly 24 alone, X24 is just a waste, every time I see it in the morning it leaves Peterlee/Shotton the same time as the normal 24, if you want to get to Durham a little tiny bit earlier then get the Durham bound bus abit earlier, about time there took the x24 off there’s nowt expressy about it.
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</p><p><br></p><p>Well said. Another case of thinking about the start and end of a route and not the people catching it in between.</p><p><br></p><p>I don't think the X21 between Sunderland and Peterlee will be missed, though. Looks like GNE won that particular battle.<br></p>
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 12 Sep 2019
Here's one nobody seems to have picked up on...
(12 Sep 2019, 5:25 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/291 Registered
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Route: Hurworth to Teesside Airport
Service number: 12 (12)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 27 Oct 2019
Believe Darlington lose operation of service ED4 as a result of the X21 being curtailed at Peterlee.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 12 Sep 2019
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(12 Sep 2019, 8:31 pm)2bagstew wrote All I know is that the X21/22 will operate the same route within the Peterlee area.
Also on the X22 there will be other change to route on early and late runs.
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</p><p><br></p><p>The changes to routes on both are said to be in the Peterlee area.</p>
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - 2bagstew - 12 Sep 2019
(12 Sep 2019, 9:11 pm)Jimmi wrote Here's one nobody seems to have picked up on...
Believe Darlington lose operation of service ED4 as a result of the X21 being curtailed at Peterlee.
I’ve heard a rumour that the ED4 will be linked with 23/24 operations with the curtailment of the X21 at Peterlee only.
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Stuartphin1639 - 12 Sep 2019
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(12 Sep 2019, 9:25 pm)2bagstew wrote I’ve heard a rumour that the ED4 will be linked with 23/24 operations with the curtailment of the X21 at Peterlee only.
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I read somewhere that the ED4 is off back to Durham in October, also there will be some more route changes in Darlington when amazon opens, as the new road is open and there’s bus stops along that road
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 13 Sep 2019
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - GNE6312 - 13 Sep 2019
Can somebody tell me the point in curtailing the X21 between Peterlee and Sunderland. Now if someone has to get from Darlington to seaham will have to get an explorer or 2 separate singles or returns or if you're going to Sunderland swap to a longer bus and get an arriva day ticket or a quick bus and get an explorer or separate tickets. They clearly didn't think of that.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Stuartphin1639 - 13 Sep 2019
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(13 Sep 2019, 9:26 pm)GNE6312 wrote Can somebody tell me the point in curtailing the X21 between Peterlee and Sunderland. Now if someone has to get from Darlington to seaham will have to get an explorer or 2 separate singles or returns or if you're going to Sunderland swap to a longer bus and get an arriva day ticket or a quick bus and get an explorer or separate tickets. They clearly didn't think of that.
The way I’m thinking is that the X21 between peterlee and Sunderland is running at a loss, many people just use any bus to Sunderland rather than the X21 which is one bus a hour, pretty sure at one point the X6 or X7 used to run minutes in front of the X21
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - S830OFT - 14 Sep 2019
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(13 Sep 2019, 11:52 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote The way I’m thinking is that the X21 between peterlee and Sunderland is running at a loss, many people just use any bus to Sunderland rather than the X21 which is one bus a hour, pretty sure at one point the X6 or X7 used to run minutes in front of the X21
</p><p>The 22/23 will still stop in New Seaham, and anyone wanting access to Peterlee using Arriva will still have the ED4 on the morning...</p>
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 14 Sep 2019
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(14 Sep 2019, 7:07 am)S830OFT wrote <p>
</p><p>The 22/23 will still stop in New Seaham, and anyone wanting access to Peterlee using Arriva will still have the ED4 on the morning...</p>
The 22 and 23 stop in Peterlee anyway, so no need to change buses?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 14 Sep 2019
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 14 Sep 2019
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(13 Sep 2019, 9:26 pm)GNE6312 wrote Can somebody tell me the point in curtailing the X21 between Peterlee and Sunderland. Now if someone has to get from Darlington to seaham will have to get an explorer or 2 separate singles or returns or if you're going to Sunderland swap to a longer bus and get an arriva day ticket or a quick bus and get an explorer or separate tickets. They clearly didn't think of that.
</p><p><br></p><p>And clearly you didn't think of the fact that there might not have been many people doing that particular journey, to justify the continued service?</p><p><br></p>
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - 2bagstew - 14 Sep 2019
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The way I’m thinking is that the X21 between peterlee and Sunderland is running at a loss, many people just use any bus to Sunderland rather than the X21 which is one bus a hour, pretty sure at one point the X6 or X7 used to run minutes in front of the X21
The 22 running just in front of X21 at Sunderland wouldn’t help the situation either, quite a few times I’ve seen the 22, 23, X21 and X7 all going to Sunderland within a few minutes.
Most passengers mainly pass holders will catch the first bus that turns up, quite a few times I’ve seen the X21 going to and from Sunderland carrying fresh air.
At the moment I do believe that there too many buses going to Sunderland from Peterlee BS.
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Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 14 Sep 2019
(14 Sep 2019, 1:16 pm)2bagstew wrote The 22 running just in front of X21 at Sunderland wouldn’t help the situation either, quite a few times I’ve seen the 22, 23, X21 and X7 all going to Sunderland within a few minutes.
Most passengers mainly pass holders will catch the first bus that turns up, quite a few times I’ve seen the X21 going to and from Sunderland carrying fresh air.
At the moment I do believe that there too many buses going to Sunderland from Peterlee BS.
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There’s not that many buses between Peterlee and Sunderland, don’t forget there do go different ways between the 2 destinations, back in United days there were practically a bus every 5 minutes on the Peterlee Corridor with United/Northern/OK and JHM Travel
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Does anybody know the route changes in Peterlee for the services that are changing?
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Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - 2bagstew - 14 Sep 2019
(14 Sep 2019, 2:26 pm)cbma06 wrote There’s not that many buses between Peterlee and Sunderland, don’t forget there do go different ways between the 2 destinations, back in United days there were practically a bus every 5 minutes on the Peterlee Corridor with United/Northern/OK and JHM Travel
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Does anybody know the route changes in Peterlee for the services that are changing?
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The vast majority of all the buses that go to Sunderland now do so via Dalton Park with a few local diversions, expect the GNE 55 but who would use that to Sunderland.
The bottom line is all the buses seem to arrive at Peterlee at approx the same time to go to Sunderland then there is nothing for the next 30mins.
It’s similar situation on the Peterlee - Hartlepool sections.
In reality there is not the amount of people traveling to fill all these buses.
A lot of the time the bus companies are just pinching each other’s passengers.
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