(23 Jul 2013, 5:52 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote 22/22A - Heworth - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland Interchange - Sunderland Enterprise Park - Waterview Park - Barmston - Washington Village - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Eighton Banks - Wrekenton - Harlow Green - Allerdene - Low Fell - Shipcote - Bensham Bank - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Fellside Park - Swalwell Estate - Metrocentre - Newcastle City Centre - Gateshead - Heworth - Every 20 Minutes Clockwise/Anti-Clockwise

An extravagant service I know, but this would replace numerous services including X3/X36/73/24 And 97, not sure if there is more.

A few Brand Names I have came up with

Regional Connect
Tyne and Wear Circular
Tyne Wear Xpress

(23 Jul 2013, 5:52 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote 22/22A - Heworth - Boldon - Fulwell - Sunderland Interchange - Sunderland Enterprise Park - Waterview Park - Barmston - Washington Village - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Eighton Banks - Wrekenton - Harlow Green - Allerdene - Low Fell - Shipcote - Bensham Bank - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Fellside Park - Swalwell Estate - Metrocentre - Newcastle City Centre - Gateshead - Heworth - Every 20 Minutes Clockwise/Anti-Clockwise

An extravagant service I know, but this would replace numerous services including X3/X36/73/24 And 97, not sure if there is more.

A few Brand Names I have came up with

Regional Connect
Tyne and Wear Circular
Tyne Wear Xpress

(25 Jul 2013, 7:58 am)Andreos1 wrote ^ Not sure this was meant to end up in the Stagecoach section :p

(30 Jul 2013, 5:38 pm)CatsFast101 wrote I must admit, although it holds no meaning or route specific, I think simplicity could be something that could be a new to north east generic livery building upon their 'Simple' fare structure. 'Simplicity by Go North East' as a new company branding getting rid of the bland boring Red Northern. The whole price guarantee stuff would have to be twisted to use there 'simple fares' spiel. But I think it's certainly not the best brand but far from the worst and by gone it could be an improvement on red northern!

(31 Jul 2013, 4:07 pm)gtomlinson wrote Service 26 (Hourly to 8pm for TV closing - No Sundays)

Gateshead - Low Fell - Belle Vue Bank - Saltwell Road - Eastern Avenue - Kingsway North - Team Valley Retail World - Sainsburys - Harlow Green - Angel - Birtley - Barley Mow Estate - Vigo Bridge.

26A Peak Workers Service.
Vigo Bridge - Barley Mow Estate - Birtley - Harlow Green Bridge - Gold Medal - Sainsburys - Team Valley Retail World - Team Valley Kingsway (duration) - Bensham - Saltwell Road - turn to 26 working (alternatively continue to Gateshead dep on loads)

X23 Hourly 10-6
Durham Bus Station - Arnison Cente - Framwellgate Moor - Chester Le Street - Barley Mow - Birtley - Lamesley - Team Valley Retail World - Team Valley Kingsway - Metrocente (either via Bensham or Western Bypass)

(31 Jul 2013, 4:11 pm)BJ10VUS wrote Great ideas. Although maybe not numbering them 26 and 26A, to avoid confusion?

(31 Jul 2013, 6:41 pm)gtomlinson wrote

(31 Jul 2013, 4:11 pm)BJ10VUS wrote Great ideas. Although maybe not numbering them 26 and 26A, to avoid confusion?

I could go with current GNE favourite 26X?

(01 Aug 2013, 9:47 am)chris5292 wrote Instead of having 3 different bus services running the kibblesworth route have 1 main bus every half an hour dont care what number it is...kibblesworth - newcastle or a little xpress bus kibblesworth to low fell to co inside with the 29 (x29)

(01 Aug 2013, 7:56 pm)gtomlinson wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 9:47 am)chris5292 wrote Instead of having 3 different bus services running the kibblesworth route have 1 main bus every half an hour dont care what number it is...kibblesworth - newcastle or a little xpress bus kibblesworth to low fell to co inside with the 29 (x29)

Kibblesworth probably only justifies hourly and certainly no express bus.

(01 Aug 2013, 7:59 pm)ifm001 wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 7:56 pm)gtomlinson wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 9:47 am)chris5292 wrote Instead of having 3 different bus services running the kibblesworth route have 1 main bus every half an hour dont care what number it is...kibblesworth - newcastle or a little xpress bus kibblesworth to low fell to co inside with the 29 (x29)

Kibblesworth probably only justifies hourly and certainly no express bus.

"probably",,,,do you live in Kibby, thought not?

You try living in the sticks and needing to get to work in Newcastle or the Metrocentre at unearthly hours with a bus operating hourly.

(01 Aug 2013, 6:03 pm)ifm001 wrote I would like to see GNE improve services in South Tyneside and bring back more of the express services

Ie X22 used to run South Shields~Hebburn~Metrocentre and on weekdays used to run South Shields~Hebburn only

Also can anyone remember the old 002/004 services that used to run in the 1990s. 002 ran from Stanley to South Shields and 004 ran from South Shields to Beamish Museum.

These services were very popular in both directions in the summer and should be reintroduced

(01 Aug 2013, 8:51 pm)Daniel wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 7:59 pm)ifm001 wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 7:56 pm)gtomlinson wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 9:47 am)chris5292 wrote Instead of having 3 different bus services running the kibblesworth route have 1 main bus every half an hour dont care what number it is...kibblesworth - newcastle or a little xpress bus kibblesworth to low fell to co inside with the 29 (x29)

Kibblesworth probably only justifies hourly and certainly no express bus.

"probably",,,,do you live in Kibby, thought not?

You try living in the sticks and needing to get to work in Newcastle or the Metrocentre at unearthly hours with a bus operating hourly.

I'd have to agree with gtomlinson. Go North East (or any other operator for that matter) cannot operate a service that doesn't make enough revenue. They could, but they wouldn't last very long - would they?
Nexus-secured service 29 is around for a reason... Nexus provides the 29 service (and other services like the 29) to ensure that communities (such as Kibblesworth) retain a bus service - particularly during early mornings, at nights and at weekends, where operators are unwilling to operate commercial services.
Go North East work out whether a commercial service is justifiable or not by how many fare paying passengers are on each individual run - not by how much revenue the service makes from all passengers over the course of the full day. This is why Go North East cut so many services, and although it isn't very good for the customer, it clearly works for them as a company.
I've visited Lamesley and Kibblesworth quite frequently recently because I've been wanting some more "scenic" photographs of the "Waggonway" 28/28A services before the DAFs depart the fleet later this month. I must say that before 09:30am, I didn't see very many passengers board buses at all - including the 29. I find it hard to believe that Nexus manages to cover the costs of the 29 (and all of the other services they secure) because they just don't make very much money at all. That said, I appreciate the 29 service being there, and I imagine those who use it will do too.
I must admit, however, that I haven't been greatly inconvenienced by the frequency of the bus services at all. I've discovered that - when I didn't fancy a walk down to Newcastle Bank in Birtley for the 21 (a 1.7 mile walk isn't everyone's cup of tea) - the area essentially has a half hourly frequency, excluding the 29. You can either get a direct bus to Gateshead/Newcastle on the 28A to Newcastle, or you can get on the 28A to Birtley and get the 21 to Gateshead/Newcastle. I imagine one option would be cheaper than the other, but expense isn't an issue for me being Under 18 (POP card and Get Around key card holder).

In GNE's favour, a commercial service being operated at 7am onwards is pretty good, albeit hourly... A lot of areas don't have that, and an area as remote as Kibblesworth should appreciate such early bus services being operated in my opinion. Perhaps I'd have different opinions if I was inconvenienced by what could be debated as a late first service as I have a bus service from 5am onwards, operated by either Stagecoach or GNE, but I honestly do agree with gtomlinson and that I don't think GNE could do anything more for the Kibblesworth area that would be profitable for them.

(02 Aug 2013, 9:17 am)ifm001 wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 8:51 pm)Daniel wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 7:59 pm)ifm001 wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 7:56 pm)gtomlinson wrote

(01 Aug 2013, 9:47 am)chris5292 wrote Instead of having 3 different bus services running the kibblesworth route have 1 main bus every half an hour dont care what number it is...kibblesworth - newcastle or a little xpress bus kibblesworth to low fell to co inside with the 29 (x29)

Kibblesworth probably only justifies hourly and certainly no express bus.

"probably",,,,do you live in Kibby, thought not?

You try living in the sticks and needing to get to work in Newcastle or the Metrocentre at unearthly hours with a bus operating hourly.

I'd have to agree with gtomlinson. Go North East (or any other operator for that matter) cannot operate a service that doesn't make enough revenue. They could, but they wouldn't last very long - would they?
Nexus-secured service 29 is around for a reason... Nexus provides the 29 service (and other services like the 29) to ensure that communities (such as Kibblesworth) retain a bus service - particularly during early mornings, at nights and at weekends, where operators are unwilling to operate commercial services.
Go North East work out whether a commercial service is justifiable or not by how many fare paying passengers are on each individual run - not by how much revenue the service makes from all passengers over the course of the full day. This is why Go North East cut so many services, and although it isn't very good for the customer, it clearly works for them as a company.
I've visited Lamesley and Kibblesworth quite frequently recently because I've been wanting some more "scenic" photographs of the "Waggonway" 28/28A services before the DAFs depart the fleet later this month. I must say that before 09:30am, I didn't see very many passengers board buses at all - including the 29. I find it hard to believe that Nexus manages to cover the costs of the 29 (and all of the other services they secure) because they just don't make very much money at all. That said, I appreciate the 29 service being there, and I imagine those who use it will do too.
I must admit, however, that I haven't been greatly inconvenienced by the frequency of the bus services at all. I've discovered that - when I didn't fancy a walk down to Newcastle Bank in Birtley for the 21 (a 1.7 mile walk isn't everyone's cup of tea) - the area essentially has a half hourly frequency, excluding the 29. You can either get a direct bus to Gateshead/Newcastle on the 28A to Newcastle, or you can get on the 28A to Birtley and get the 21 to Gateshead/Newcastle. I imagine one option would be cheaper than the other, but expense isn't an issue for me being Under 18 (POP card and Get Around key card holder).

In GNE's favour, a commercial service being operated at 7am onwards is pretty good, albeit hourly... A lot of areas don't have that, and an area as remote as Kibblesworth should appreciate such early bus services being operated in my opinion. Perhaps I'd have different opinions if I was inconvenienced by what could be debated as a late first service as I have a bus service from 5am onwards, operated by either Stagecoach or GNE, but I honestly do agree with gtomlinson and that I don't think GNE could do anything more for the Kibblesworth area that would be profitable for them.

All I am saying is people shouldn't presume that hourly bus services are sufficient. the 29 doesn't operate on evenings or sundays so your comment about nexus doesn't completely justify your statement. in fact the 29 is probably the most used Nexus Bus out of all and if it wasn't for the mass proposed Quality Contract Scheme I wouldn't have been surprised for GNE to take it on direct instead of contract.

You say yourself you have services from 5am, we would all love services to commence that early but I guess we will have to stick to taxis and not have the luxury of living in your area