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RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 30 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 4:22 pm)aureolin wrote Current Nexus contract list (as of 27th July 2014) is attached to this post. Thanks for sharing. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Jul 2014 Something I've spotted straight away. It would appear that the minimum spec for Compass Community Transport's 37 board is a Euro 5 vehicle with capacity of 16, yet the board Gateshead Central Taxis have won for the 37 and 73 requires 3x Euro 5 vehicles with a capacity of 49. Seems bizarre how one operator can be contracted for 16 and one for 49 - i.e. 3x the capacity! 7102 37,8X Compass Community Tpt 1 L1605 29/05/2011 25/07/2015 Wholly secured 7598 M2,M2A Go Northern 1 L2304 01/06/2014 30/05/2015 Partially secured RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 30 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 6:00 pm)aureolin wrote Something I've spotted straight away. It would appear that the minimum spec for Compass Community Transport's 37 board is a Euro 5 vehicle with capacity of 16, yet the board Gateshead Central Taxis have won for the 37 and 73 requires 3x Euro 5 vehicles with a capacity of 49. Seems bizarre how one operator can be contracted for 16 and one for 49 - i.e. 3x the capacity! The contract for services 37/73 certainly originally stipulated the use of vehicles with a minimum capacity of 49, with Euro 4 vehicles, to my memory... Clearly Compass has submitted a non-conforming bid which has been accepted due to the lower cost for Nexus. I'd assume this is why the contract only lasts for one year with CCT, but three with GCT. Bizarre, nevertheless... MPDs 603-606 and Cadets 8247/48, 8251-55 and 8260 are all Euro 4 vehicles. Although fitted with Euro 3 engines when new, they have had Eminox modifications to make them Euro 4. Indeed, all of Washington's fleet is Euro 4 or Euro 5. I have stated in the past that the overwhelming majority of Go North East's fleet is a minimum of Euro 4, thanks to Eminox modifications, with only a few vehicles being less than that, at Euro 2 or 3. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 30 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 6:06 pm)Dan wrote The contract for services 37/73 certainly originally stipulated the use of vehicles with a minimum capacity of 49, with Euro 4 vehicles, to my memory... Clearly Compass has submitted a non-conforming bid which has been accepted due to the lower cost for Nexus. I'd assume this is why the contract only lasts for one year with CCT, but three with GCT. Bizarre, nevertheless... Looks to me like the Compass contract is an existing one running from 2011 Dan... Not sure where they fit in to the schedule? RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 30 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm)tyresmoke wrote Looks to me like the Compass contract is an existing one running from 2011 Dan... Not sure where they fit in to the schedule? They're the peak time 'extras' that they operated previously too (which fits in with it being an already established contract) - GCT took over GNE's run on service 37. Now that it interworks with service 73, it requires 3 vehicles in total. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 30 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 6:13 pm)Dan wrote They're the peak time 'extras' that they operated previously too (which fits in with it being an already established contract) - GCT took over GNE's run on service 37. Now that it interworks with service 73, it requires 3 vehicles in total. Makes sense, cheers RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 6:13 pm)Dan wrote They're the peak time 'extras' that they operated previously too (which fits in with it being an already established contract) - GCT took over GNE's run on service 37. Now that it interworks with service 73, it requires 3 vehicles in total. I recall that last time GNE didn't have the 37, they put a peak time 137 in direct competition. I wonder if they'll do something similar again, given that there is about 3 runs each way per day that (at least used to) have good loads. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Drifter60 - 30 Jul 2014 How does nexus set the euro rating? Just odd how 135/136 is Euro 5, 29 is Euro 4 etc. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 31 Jul 2014 (30 Jul 2014, 11:17 pm)Drifter60 wrote How does nexus set the euro rating? Just odd how 135/136 is Euro 5, 29 is Euro 4 etc. The higher the Euro rating, the more expensive the tender price set from bus operators will be (especially if they have to order new vehicles). So as far as I know, it depends on how cheaply Nexus want the contract to go for. I recall the contract for service 33 in Newcastle going down from Euro 4 to Euro 3, half way through the consultation... RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 03 Aug 2014 I wonder if GNE will take on the 880? Will increase the paasengers on the X85 too. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 08 Aug 2014 Have we heard anything about the NCC contracts yet? RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 08 Aug 2014 (08 Aug 2014, 2:25 pm)Tom wrote Have we heard anything about the NCC contracts yet? I've recently requested similar info from NCC (and other councils), as I've provided for Nexus. I'll hopefully have that in a few weeks time, which will let us look ahead at what's coming up. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 08 Aug 2014 (08 Aug 2014, 7:35 pm)aureolin wrote I've recently requested similar info from NCC (and other councils), as I've provided for Nexus. I'll hopefully have that in a few weeks time, which will let us look ahead at what's coming up. They start 1st September if nothing has changed. I'd like to see GNE take on the 880 - a new ticket similar to the AD122/X85 ticket could be introduced, for example X85 + 880 ticket £7.20 - Should also boost passenger numbers on the X85 too. If I remember correctly, service 74 (Newcastle-Matfen-Hexham), 79 (Ponteland-Morpeth), 683 (Hexham-Newbrough), 688 (Hexham-Allendale), 689 (Hexham-Consett), 880 (Hexham-Bellingham-Kielder Castle), 882 (Colwell-Hexham) and other various stuff. I'd like to see GNE retain the 688 and 689, and possibly the 74 as all seem to get decent passenger numbers at times (even the 689, yes!). RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Drifter60 - 08 Aug 2014 (08 Aug 2014, 7:46 pm)Tom wrote They start 1st September if nothing has changed. Interesting, well ish, that the 689 is a Northumberland Contract but operated by Consett under the Venture name. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 14 Aug 2014 http://m.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/major-overhaul-of-sunderland-and-washington-bus-routes-1-6782637 Not sure it is a major overhaul like... RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 14 Aug 2014 (14 Aug 2014, 12:23 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote http://m.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/major-overhaul-of-sunderland-and-washington-bus-routes-1-6782637 Bit late,the changes were ages ago RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 14 Aug 2014 (14 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm)Michael wrote Bit late,the changes were ages ago They were. Presumably someone has been sitting on the press release and it hasn't been published. Checked the date and it only appeared yesterday. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 14 Aug 2014 (14 Aug 2014, 12:27 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote They were. Typical Sunderland echo... haha RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 14 Aug 2014 Nice one sided story there. Councillors say it's good, so we'll take that opinion... RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 30 Aug 2014 The Northumberland Contracts were due to start on 1st September, but nothing has been released about them? Has it been extended once again? RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Aug 2014 (30 Aug 2014, 9:07 pm)Tom wrote The Northumberland Contracts were due to start on 1st September, but nothing has been released about them? NCC list attached. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 30 Aug 2014 (30 Aug 2014, 9:14 pm)aureolin wrote NCC list attached. A lot of the Hexham contracts are due to end tomorrow! RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 30 Aug 2014 (30 Aug 2014, 9:17 pm)Tom wrote A lot of the Hexham contracts are due to end tomorrow! I would assume that they have been extended again... RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Aug 2014 (30 Aug 2014, 10:01 pm)tyresmoke wrote I would assume that they have been extended again... That list only arrived in my mailbox on Friday from NCC. I'll enquire on Monday for a definite answer. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 25 Sep 2014 Upcoming Durham County Council tenders. Current contracts all due to expire on the 25th October 2014.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - gtom - 08 Nov 2014 Gateshead Council's latest budget proposal plans for the withdrawal of funding to Quaylink from the next tender (though it would need to reach agreement with Newcastle over this) It states Gateshead College is well served and services could be extended to the Baltic (I assume the 93/94) The impact statement notes the main concern is late night provision to the Quayside and the effect on hotels and potential development RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 08 Nov 2014 (08 Nov 2014, 10:50 am)gtom wrote Gateshead Council's latest budget proposal plans for the withdrawal of funding to Quaylink from the next tender (though it would need to reach agreement with Newcastle over this) Isn't it 2015 for the new tender? I wonder if GNE will keep it on but change the frequency, i think a few people on here said that would be the best option. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 08 Nov 2014 Nexus have very recently put a tender out for the Quaylink service so this is an interesting development Re: RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 08 Nov 2014 (08 Nov 2014, 3:28 pm)tyresmoke wrote Nexus have very recently put a tender out for the Quaylink service so this is an interesting developmentIt can only be a short tender surely? Two year deal max I would have thought, since they'll be looking to tie it in with QCS after that... RE: Nexus - Malarkey - 10 Nov 2014 Wasn't to sure where to put this. Was at the MetroCentre rather briefly This Afternoon around 3ish, and Ray Parnaby and 2 other Enthusiasts were having a bit of a chit chat, so I went over and said hello, and according to one of those other 2 Enthusiasts (don't know his name) apparently Gateshead Central Taxis have put a Bid in for the Quaylink Contract. #Don'tShootTheMessenger #HashtagsOnNEB |