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RE: School - Andreos1 - 12 Feb 2015
(12 Feb 2015, 6:26 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote Can I just say, that is pretty bad. Not the way you were treated at school, but the ways you responded to it all!Not condoning anything Tommy has done, but is it up to me, you or anyone else to judge him?
You got a computer until a certain time? Consider yourself lucky! The only time we're allowed on computers to do our own things is in the library at lunch, and even then it's every man for himself as there are only 12! And Sixth Formers get priority over us!
Wrapping cables around your neck? Because your computer was gone? And it took six members of staff to restrain you?! The last time I saw six members of staff in the same room was when they asked me to stay behind for a student voice thing. Extreme..!
And you threatened to push a teacher in front of a car?!?! Regardless of disability, age or maturity - if that happened in my school you would be kicked out and never allowed back - instantly!! I think they were pretty lenient!!...and then you subsequently hurled awful verbal abuse at them following them getting you back into the taxi (probably best!)...wow...
And then you started hitting a taxi driver after he failed to do as you commanded him to do? I think regardless of the speed he was going, he didn't deserve that sort of abuse. No wonder he called the police!!
* Tommy, I am aware you are autistic - but that is just not right. My best friend, Rhys, also has autism. And it's very noticeable by his behavior, etc, but even he doesn't go that far. If he doesn't get his own way, he has a bit of a moment to cry, maybe shout a bit and rant on, before his LSA takes him outside to calm down...and he always comes back in perfectly fine after being spoken to. Think about it - they were only trying to help you, regardless of how you took it.
I am also aware there are a huge variety of forms of autism, but after working and being friends with Rhys for over 10 years, as well as meeting plenty more autistic people with a variety of different needs - but that...words fail me!
He has done it, faced the consequences and is now left in a totally different position to the one he was in previously.
RE: School - Adrian - 12 Feb 2015
Only thing I'm going to add is a note to tone it down. I'm sure we're all more than capable of relying a story, without so many expletives. A mixture of excessive swearing in posts, plus Google's SafeSearch, could see certain parts of the forum fall off the Google search results.
RE: School - omnicity4659 - 13 Feb 2015
(12 Feb 2015, 6:26 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote Can I just say, that is pretty bad. Not the way you were treated at school, but the ways you responded to it all!
You got a computer until a certain time? Consider yourself lucky! The only time we're allowed on computers to do our own things is in the library at lunch, and even then it's every man for himself as there are only 12! And Sixth Formers get priority over us!
Wrapping cables around your neck? Because your computer was gone? And it took six members of staff to restrain you?! The last time I saw six members of staff in the same room was when they asked me to stay behind for a student voice thing. Extreme..!
And you threatened to push a teacher in front of a car?!?! Regardless of disability, age or maturity - if that happened in my school you would be kicked out and never allowed back - instantly!! I think they were pretty lenient!!...and then you subsequently hurled awful verbal abuse at them following them getting you back into the taxi (probably best!)...wow...
And then you started hitting a taxi driver after he failed to do as you commanded him to do? I think regardless of the speed he was going, he didn't deserve that sort of abuse. No wonder he called the police!!
* Tommy, I am aware you are autistic - but that is just not right. My best friend, Rhys, also has autism. And it's very noticeable by his behavior, etc, but even he doesn't go that far. If he doesn't get his own way, he has a bit of a moment to cry, maybe shout a bit and rant on, before his LSA takes him outside to calm down...and he always comes back in perfectly fine after being spoken to. Think about it - they were only trying to help you, regardless of how you took it.
I am also aware there are a huge variety of forms of autism, but after working and being friends with Rhys for over 10 years, as well as meeting plenty more autistic people with a variety of different needs - but that...words fail me!
I have mental health issues as well, they normally flare up if someone really annoys me, like really annoys me, it was the school's fault that the TA that I had previously was leaving, but they said to me, that he'll just be being trained to work with the "mute" students. When I saw him later in the week, he wasn't working with a "mute" student, he was working in the class that I was separated from, the school must have told my mam to lie to me about the old TA working with mute students. My mam admitted that she was lying.
I admit that my behaviour wasn't appropriate, and I regret acting in that way.
The wrapping cables around my neck, was a suicide attempt, it wasn't about the computer, it was about all the things that had gone wrong in my life, I just wanted the hell to end.
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RE: School - idiot - 13 Feb 2015
Im off school today. I have done my quota of training woo hoo!
RE: School - Michael - 13 Feb 2015
Although its not school, i did a course on Autism this morning, which was really good, although this was more mainly about young children.
Now i have a week off, =)
RE: School - omnicity4659 - 14 Feb 2015
Now, to clear some things up.
When I say that I have autism, it DOES NOT mean that I talk in a funny way, act in a different way or obsess over everything.
I am just like anybody else.
If anyone treats me or sees me as "very autistic", I tell them where to go.
Many of you have opinions of me, well, to make it clear, I have some opinions of you too!
But I have one thing to say. If you don't like me, I don't like you.
Now, the autism affects me in NO WAY whatsoever.
Rant over.
This makes no sense to me whatsoever, so I assume it won't make sense to you either. I'm only clearing my mind, by expressing my opinions.
RE: School - Michael - 14 Feb 2015
(14 Feb 2015, 11:40 am)Tommy_1581 wrote Now, to clear some things up.
When I say that I have autism, it DOES NOT mean that I talk in a funny way, act in a different way or obsess over everything.
I am just like anybody else.
If anyone treats me or sees me as "very autistic", I tell them where to go.
Many of you have opinions of me, well, to make it clear, I have some opinions of you too!
But I have one thing to say. If you don't like me, I don't like you.
Now, the autism affects me in NO WAY whatsoever.
Rant over.
This makes no sense to me whatsoever, so I assume it won't make sense to you either. I'm only clearing my mind, by expressing my opinions.
Exactly, everyone is different.
I wasn't having ago at people with it, i was just saying i did some training it, i hope i didn't offend you =0
RE: School - omnicity4659 - 14 Feb 2015
(14 Feb 2015, 11:56 am)Michael wrote Exactly, everyone is different.
I wasn't having ago at people with it, i was just saying i did some training it, i hope i didn't offend you =0
No, you didn't offend me, I wasn't writing the post in any way about your training. I just like to have some rants from time to time, it releases the anger from inside of me.
My thoughts normally come out before I get to think about it, so that's probably how half of the crap I wrote doesnt make sense.
RE: School - R852 PRG - 22 Feb 2015
Back tomorrow...
RE: School - Tom - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 2:08 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote Back tomorrow...
Same... Can't be arsed.
RE: School - citaro5284 - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 2:08 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote Back tomorrow...
You want to try only having 5 weeks holiday a year...
RE: School - Dan - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 2:56 pm)citaro5284 wrote You want to try only having 5 weeks holiday a year...
Don't remind me!
School - R852 PRG - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 2:56 pm)citaro5284 wrote You want to try only having 5 weeks holiday a year...
But you have a job you enjoy!
My school life is filled with awful teachers, scruffy kids, and stuff I generally have little to no interest in.
RE: School - MurdnunoC - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 2:58 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote But you have a job you enjoy!
My school life is filled with awful teachers, scruffy kids, and stuff I generally have little to no interest in.
I think you'll discover most people find their working lives to be filled with awful bosses, unmotivated, cantankerous and disillusioned co-workers either doing or being informed of things which, on the whole, they have either little or no interest in.
School life is easy.
School - R852 PRG - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 4:52 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I think you'll discover most people find their working lives to be filled with awful bosses, unmotivated, cantankerous and disillusioned co-workers either doing or being informed of things which, on the whole, they have either little or no interest in.
School life is easy.
That might be so, but isn't exactly a picnic when you come from a respectable family yet you end up spending 6-7 hours a day with awful scruffy people.
I may well find a job where the people around me hate coming into work, but that's the exact same atmosphere I have in school. Nobody enjoys going there, but does so anyway - as Mr. Gilbert from the Inbetweener's said - ''unfortunately for you, this isn't the First World War, you can't conscientiously object'...
School isn't easy, I might not have it hard from people; I've never had any grief over my hobby - but it isn't any easier. I still have horrible teachers who would rather lie in bed and get drunk than stand in front of us and educate us.
RE: School - MurdnunoC - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 5:00 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote That might be so, but isn't exactly a picnic when you come from a respectable family yet you end up spending 6-7 hours a day with awful scruffy people.
I may well find a job where the people around me hate coming into work, but that's the exact same atmosphere I have in school. Nobody enjoys going there, but does so anyway - as Mr. Gilbert from the Inbetweener's said - ''unfortunately for you, this isn't the First World War, you can't conscientiously object'...
School isn't easy, I might not have it hard from people; I've never had any grief over my hobby - but it isn't any easier. I still have horrible teachers who would rather lie in bed and get drunk than stand in front of us and educate us.
And people still have horrible bosses who would rather lie in bed, sniff a line and get bladdered than come and stand in front of their co-workers reeling off performance statistics. The thing that brings horrible bosses and teachers together is money - they both need it and this is what they've chosen to do to get to it.
I take exception to your first sentence. Coming from a council-estate I resented going to school with people who thought they were better than everybody else because they lived in the posh estate at the edge of the village or town.
RE: School - MrFozz - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 5:17 pm)MurdnunoC wrote And people still have horrible bosses who would rather lie in bed, sniff a line and get bladdered than come and stand in front of their co-workers reeling off performance statistics. The thing that brings horrible bosses and teachers together is money - they both need it and this is what they've chosen to do to get to it.
I take exception to your first sentence. Coming from a council-estate I resented going to school with people who thought they were better than everybody else because they lived in the posh estate at the edge of the village or town.
Could not agree more on that point mate
School - R852 PRG - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 5:17 pm)MurdnunoC wrote And people still have horrible bosses who would rather lie in bed, sniff a line and get bladdered than come and stand in front of their co-workers reeling off performance statistics. The thing that brings horrible bosses and teachers together is money - they both need it and this is what they've chosen to do to get to it.
I take exception to your first sentence. Coming from a council-estate I resented going to school with people who thought they were better than everybody else because they lived in the posh estate at the edge of the village or town.
I understand your point about having horrible superiors, in fact I completely agree. Some teachers are absolute disgraces to their industry, and all they want is the money. They usually use the argument of 'I love being able to have an impact on your future' when they are challenged...when in reality they mean 'I love being able to have a negative impact on your future'...
I apologise if my first sentence offended you, but it is different now. The people who come from areas which in comparison to mine, aren't nice, they rule the school now...if you stand up for yourself, you have 4 angry bitches telling you to kill yourself...amongst other things...
I could list more and more points, but it all comes down to the following:
My school life consists of walking in, hoping the day goes by without anyone targeting me, and then walk out hate-free. Unfortunately, my tutor group is ruled by 4 slutty scruffy girls who come to school looking like prostitutes - and disrupt the class as a result. We lose valuable time in our education all due to them, and people who have stood up for themselves and others, their life ends when they do so...
RE: School - Andreos1 - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 5:17 pm)MurdnunoC wrote And people still have horrible bosses who would rather lie in bed, sniff a line and get bladdered than come and stand in front of their co-workers reeling off performance statistics. The thing that brings horrible bosses and teachers together is money - they both need it and this is what they've chosen to do to get to it.It's that 'being judgemental' thing again that people keep doing - not specifically on here, but in everyday life.
I take exception to your first sentence. Coming from a council-estate I resented going to school with people who thought they were better than everybody else because they lived in the posh estate at the edge of the village or town.
At the end of the day, we're all exactly the same - sleeping, eating and sh!tting our way through life.
Maybe some people think their sleep, food and sh!t is of a better standard, when all it boils down to is the family you're born into and the privileges they have.
RE: School - MurdnunoC - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 5:29 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote I understand your point about having horrible superiors, in fact I completely agree. Some teachers are absolute disgraces to their industry, and all they want is the money. They usually use the argument of 'I love being able to have an impact on your future' when they are challenged...when in reality they mean 'I love being able to have a negative impact on your future'...
I apologise if my first sentence offended you, but it is different now. The people who come from areas which in comparison to mine, aren't nice, they rule the school now...if you stand up for yourself, you have 4 angry bitches telling you to kill yourself...amongst other things...
I could list more and more points, but it all comes down to the following:
My school life consists of walking in, hoping the day goes by without anyone targeting me, and then walk out hate-free. Unfortunately, my tutor group is ruled by 4 slutty scruffy girls who come to school looking like prostitutes - and disrupt the class as a result. We lose valuable time in our education all due to them, and people who have stood up for themselves and others, their life ends when they do so...
What you describe is exactly how school-life was back in my day (and possibly how it was for everybody else on the forum).
I went to a Catholic School (shouldn't be hard to guess which one) where, at the time, I was the only person without any sort of religion. I was once told by somebody my existence was essentially worthless because I wasn't either baptised or christened.
Because I came from a 'poor' background, I was mocked because I didn't wear Naff-Naff or McKenzie (believe it or not - both were big brands in the early 90s) clothing or sported Adidas Torsion or the latest Reebok Pumps. As far as I can recall, I was always 'scruffy', but in my defence, I was a kid who used to get up mischief on their way to/from school.
Schools have always been ruled by cliques. I was lucky enough to be on the fringes of one when I was at school but I've still witnessed my fair share of bullying and violence to students who are not as lucky. There will always be disruptive students and girls who choose to dress, in your words, like prostitutes.
Nothing's changed.
RE: School - MurdnunoC - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 5:46 pm)Andreos1 wrote It's that 'being judgemental' thing again that people keep doing - not specifically on here, but in everyday life.
At the end of the day, we're all exactly the same - sleeping, eating and sh!tting our way through life.
Maybe some people think their sleep, food and sh!t is of a better standard, when all it boils down to is the family you're born into and the privileges they have.
Exactly.
Also, at the age of fourteen or fifteen, it's unlikely that you've achieved anything of note which allows for such a snobby, judgemental disposition. For most children, they've been to school, maybe participated in some extra-curricular activity, and that's about it!
RE: School - citaro5284 - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 2:08 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote Back tomorrow...
I hope you had plenty of homework and that you have completed it.
RE: School - Dan - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 6:15 pm)citaro5284 wrote I hope you had plenty of homework and that you have completed it.
Cruel... I hope you enjoy Period End, citaro5284!
RE: School - R852 PRG - 22 Feb 2015
Look, I'm sorry to anyone who seems to have gotten the impression I am a snob. I can assure you, I don't intend to be. The point I am trying to make, and seemingly failing to do so; is that I have no control over what happens in school - I would never want to for anyone else - but just for myself. I believe 'drive your own destiny' is the phrase that I'm thinking of.
Basically, I don't know how many times I've tried to say this, my tutor group has 24 people in it - 4 of whom are girls, exceptional girls. They are horrible, nasty, vile, slutty girls who frighten other people into keeping their lips sealed. When, all we want to do, is get on with our education, for all it's worth. We sit there with our heads in our hands while they sit at the back of the classroom shouting abuse at each and every one of us if we do something they disagree with. The teachers...what can they do?! There's 1 teacher - 4 of them. And 20 of us, who simply don't want to get involved. Nobody dares challenge their authority. If I unloaded everything that has been built up over the course of 3 years - I would probably be stabbed by some of the hard boys in their group in Chester-le-Street.
They sit there in their seats doing barely any work, and disrupt throughout nearly every lesson, even in tests for crying out loud... One throws a pen at another at the bottom of the classroom and they laugh like they're going to choke themselves to death. This can happen several times in a lesson, and take up valuable time. There is rebelling, then there is what these girls do. Many a time someone has decided to turn around and quietly ask them to let them get on with their work and stop talking over the top of teachers - they tend to get 'shut up and jump in front of a bus' or 'ya knar that railway station up there, how about you go and chuck yaself on the tracks' but mainly 'shut up and go f*** yourself'.
I look forward to subjects like English and Maths, where they aren't within eyesight. Because if they were, I would never get a break. I have subjects like RE, where 'everyone can get involved and voice their opinion'...that is taken advantage of. History - whenever we've watched videos of concentration camps - sometimes ones where people are being executed in fields, etc, - 'sir, where's Hitler in this?' (then 2 minutes of uncontrollable laughing...).
I understand some older members may have experienced similar things during their school lives to what it seems I endure day in day out, and that you may have gained the impression I am a snob. I can assure you, I don't want you to think this. Everything that goes on in school - these people disrupting lessons, the girl who I like but doesn't like me - it has led to very little self-confidence. That might seem hard to believe, considering some of my previous posts, but I am a very sensitive person and I can get very sad at times, occasionally depressed. It sounds stupid, some may find it offensive who've been through it, but sometimes I sit and stare into nothing at times wondering whether all my problems at school will ever be resolved. There are a few other things, which I would rather not discuss on a public forum, that make me a miserable bastard who loves to point out flaws in things and people. Sometimes, all I have to go on is that I have a loving family and a lovely home. I have plenty of friends, one or two teachers who care about the kids they teach, but in reality all I would like is this girl I have mentioned before to like me back, all the terrible people and teachers in my school to go elsewhere and just to enjoy my life.
I have this 'problem' where I can't back myself up or think of reasonable arguments to defend myself - that lead to me using the arguments I have used above. What I'm trying to say is, I lead a pretty 50/50 life. On a typical Thursday morning I wake up thinking 'oh, only two days left until the weekend, but I'll still have to endure the horrors of school', then on the day of the Metrocentre Rally I feel so happy and want to live life to the full...
Basically, I apologize for coming across as rude, snobby, and generally believing I am better than everyone else. Sometimes I just don't know what to do about my sad life, and I guess the fact that I have a privileged background keeps me going. And I know that's not a reason to shove it down your throats.
Marcus
RE: School - Tom - 22 Feb 2015
Generally the slutty ones are the hot ones though!
Thankfully in my form there are no slutty or horrible people, and we all get along decently well.
The same can't be said about most other forms though...
RE: School - Dan - 22 Feb 2015
I'm not going to quote that post as it's a bit long, but I'd just like to pick up on the point regarding the girls disrupting your lessons...
I have friends who are my age that are (or were) in mainstream education opposed to private education. In the lower years of our school life, they couldn't understand why I had so much work to do for school and why I didn't have time to go out with them on an evening or weekend. The teachers at my school put students under a lot of pressure to do well, and it wasn't long before I realised that I had to put in a lot of effort to my school work in exchange for good grades at the end of the process. Sadly, as mainstream education doesn't have the same direct teacher to pupil communication as private education does, some of my friends took quite a long time to realise that, if you want to go somewhere decent in life, there's a good chance you're going to need good grades, and to get those good grades, you need to put the effort in.
At GCSE level, I'd suggest that most begin to realise that what they achieve in school stands a good chance of impacting on their whole life. My friends in mainstream education started to knuckle down in Year 10 and get some work done. They were learning things in Year 10 that I covered and understood at the start of Year 9, meaning that I was at an instant advantage over them. I had spare time in Year 10, but they didn't, as they had too much work to do if they wanted to cover the entire syllabus in time for their exams at the end of Year 11.
A lot of my friends didn't do as well as they had hoped originally, and they had to face the disappointment on Results Day after the exams in August. Some of my friends did very well indeed - some received a few more A*s than I did! The ones who did well are the ones who put the effort in. If the girls in your year group care for what their future prospects are in life, they'll knuckle down next year. Failing, or getting low grades in exams, is not a good feeling. There's only one way you can do your best to avoid that happening. It's just a waiting game until next year, I'm afraid, Marcus. Just remember that if you keep working as best as you can, you'll be at an advantage over them when it comes to GCSEs, and you could be driving a great car in a couple of years time while they're waiting in the dole queue with their three kids.
RE: School - Michael - 22 Feb 2015
Most of them in my year were sluts, Most of the lasses from my year have kids now...
Still glad i'm the only lad in my uni class LOL
RE: School - R852 PRG - 22 Feb 2015
The notable girls in my school - I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. They're horrible, nasty, wear too much make-up (I know most girls do, but there's a line!) and just generally look like wrecks. Whereas the one I like, she's nice even without make-up. And I don't just like her because she looks nice, she's generally lovely. And I think I didn't do too bad on V-Day.
@Dan - thanks for the advice. But those girls couldn't care less what happen to them. In fact I'm positive that most have had their GCSEs picked for them by the school. I've always been seen as intelligent, but the way my school life has become corrupted has changed my personality drastically, sadly...
RE: School - Andreos1 - 22 Feb 2015
Just to throw my experiences onto the board - my family have a working class background.
My Dad grafted his balls off at work and was able to provide a good standard of living for us.
Both him and my Mam did without at times; not going out all of the time with friends etc, so that we could have a good life, with good holidays.
Eventually, we moved into a newbuild estate, similar to the one Marcus lives in - but still they continued slogging on, to maintain everything, pay the bills and keep a roof over our heads.
To my new friends (no idea about my siblings) at my new comprehensive, initially jealousy took hold when they found out I lived in 'the new houses'.
However, when they realised I was as down to earth as them, did the same things as them and could interact with them, they were fine. I was 'one of the lads'.
I mixed with a whole load of people (even the ones classed as hard and disruptive) and was quite popular with my peers.
It possibly helped that I was good at sports and could handle myself if needed.
The school itself was in an area surrounded by all sorts of estates and took in a wide variety of pupils, with different backgrounds and issues.
I got decent grades, but pushed myself at some subjects, gave up with others and possibly became complacent at the lessons I was good at.
I am still mates with a big chunk of people I met at school way back when.
We have all moved on with our lives and have ended up in a wide range of professions - some doing things, that others may look down on.
We are all good, honest people though.
What stood me in good stead as I got older and became a Dad at quite a young age (younger than I had planned), was the determination to build on the decent grades I got at school & college and the ethic my Dad had shown. I could have gone on the dole and not provided for my family - that would have been much easier in the short term.
At this stage, I was in exactly the same position as some of the 'friendly' girls from school and was a parent at a young age.
I grafted, grafted some more, built on my GCSE's/A Levels and went to Uni whilst working full time and doing whatever else a Dad with a mortgage does.
Life has thrown me a number of curveballs at varying times, but one thing I have never forgotten is my roots, my background and my heritage (something I am extremely proud of) and the knowledge that I am no different to any of my old classmates - whether they have ended up inside, on the dole, running businesses or working behind a desk.
RE: School - MrFozz - 22 Feb 2015
(22 Feb 2015, 7:15 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote The notable girls in my school - I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. They're horrible, nasty, wear too much make-up (I know most girls do, but there's a line!) and just generally look like wrecks. Whereas the one I like, she's nice even without make-up. And I don't just like her because she looks nice, she's generally lovely. And I think I didn't do too bad on V-Day.If it is that bad, could you not have ever asked to transfer to a new scbool or would that have been more hassle than it's worth?
@Dan - thanks for the advice. But those girls couldn't care less what happen to them. In fact I'm positive that most have had their GCSEs picked for them by the school. I've always been seen as intelligent, but the way my school life has become corrupted has changed my personality drastically, sadly...
When I moved to Durham, when I went into Care long term, the deputy tried bloody hard to get my Social Worker to transfer me to Fram Comp, Durham Johnston or Fyndoune in Sacriston, but it was deemed not worth it for 1 year, I reckon I would have slightly improved my chances if I went to another place, as I had quite a few friends in those 3 schools and only had 4 friends at Easington(3 girls and 1 teacher)