(15 May 2025, 9:16 pm)V514DFT wrote Hadrian Park is a pretty "nothing" place, they could easily send the 335 back to the Cobalt
I've got some "wonky" ideas in my head, and some of them might just work

(15 May 2025, 9:16 pm)V514DFT wrote Hadrian Park is a pretty "nothing" place, they could easily send the 335 back to the Cobalt
I've got some "wonky" ideas in my head, and some of them might just work

(15 May 2025, 9:22 pm)Storx wrote Aye, it was more for operational reasons really, the 350 is slightly too long to do just Northumberland Park to Newcastle so would need to interwork with something that's like 50 minutes or so which the 335 wouldn't be a million miles away from if it was extended.

The 19/335/350/W2 are a waste of tax payer funds currently though, as they are imo, especially when you've got stuff like areas in Sunderland unserved which used to be covered by the 18 as they've 'got no money'. The W2 just shouldn't exist at all, when the 351 exists which is basically the same route, bar one bus stop. Just a waste of public funds.

(17 May 2025, 7:16 pm)RMF1254 wrote Maybe not for the people who live there!

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Have you noticed the loads carried on the 350/351, especially on the West Allotment - Holystone - Benton Rise - Newcastle part of the routes? I travel regularly on both routes and at certain times it’s difficult to get a seat into the city centre. 
I believe the 335 is used by people from Hadrian Park, Battle Hill, High Farm areas to ASDA.

(17 May 2025, 7:16 pm)RMF1254 wrote Have you noticed the loads carried on the 350/351, especially on the West Allotment - Holystone - Benton Rise - Newcastle part of the routes? I travel regularly on both routes and at certain times it’s difficult to get a seat into the city centre. 
I believe the 335 is used by people from Hadrian Park, Battle Hill, High Farm areas to ASDA.

(17 May 2025, 9:21 pm)Storx wrote Aye no arguments about the West Allotment - Newcastle side of the route, it's why it should be curtailed short. It's the West Allotment to Whitley Bay part that's the problem side, seen it a few times now near Wellfield and the most I've seen on it is 1 person and not surprised either considering it follows a more frequent 57 and doesn't really exactly do anything else.

Personally they'd be better to do the old 51/51A route which Arriva done instead with the 351 running to Whitley omitting the annoying Holystone Park backtracking and the 350 running to Holystone Park only

https://api.arrivabus.co.uk/routes/services/NMS_JE_51-NMS_JE_51A/220904-221225/51-51A-Newcastle-to-Whitley-Bay-from-04-Sep-2022.pdf - That timetable. Would save a bus aswell and should include the full evening timetable aswell since the whole 351 corridor in Whitley Bay is outright unserved in an evening now.

(18 May 2025, 1:00 pm)L469 YVK wrote Personally, the 350/351 look to be working fine in their current form past West Allotment. The two buses per hour from Holystone Park as well as East Benton Rise is what's needed to attract passengers and grow the service. 

I don't know if GNE now run the 317 commercially, but the 350/351 could be an attractive proposition if GNE took these on commercially and have options to interwork them with something either end of the route.

(18 May 2025, 1:00 pm)L469 YVK wrote Personally, the 350/351 look to be working fine in their current form past West Allotment. The two buses per hour from Holystone Park as well as East Benton Rise is what's needed to attract passengers and grow the service. 

I don't know if GNE now run the 317 commercially, but the 350/351 could be an attractive proposition if GNE took these on commercially and have options to interwork them with something either end of the route.