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RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm)Malarkey wrote I'd say investment in the coming years should be that should be marked as a priority are listed below:See I think GNE might want to get some E200 EV's. Especially with the 60, it really shouldn't be allocated anything over 11.5m. And I think the Hydroliner only come in 10.8 & 12m. 10.8 is too small, 12m is too big for the route to be its permant allocation. (29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I can't see anything changing with the X21 any time soon, the B5s are seemingly performing very well on it, as long as they're actually being allocated.I agree, however the reason I and many others were wondering if the StreetDecks would be on the X21 was that there is 7/8 brand new buses just sitting on school routes. GNE clearly aren't in a place to start new expresses. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Malarkey - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 5:32 pm)Unber43 wrote See I think GNE might want to get some E200 EV's. Especially with the 60, it really shouldn't be allocated anything over 11.5m. And I think the Hydroliner only come in 10.8 & 12m.Could get Yutong E10's. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 6:03 pm)Malarkey wrote Could get Yutong E10's.There too small. I think the reason the 60 went for Versa's to Streetlite in 4 years were due to capacity issues, Also please no more Yutongs they're awful. But i think we can all agree 10/10A/10B/20/21/60/56/309/310/311 need upgrades, with the latter 56/309/310/311 possibly getting upgrades. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 5:32 pm)Unber43 wrote See I think GNE might want to get some E200 EV's. Especially with the 60, it really shouldn't be allocated anything over 11.5m. And I think the Hydroliner only come in 10.8 & 12m. But the excess of drivers... There's another 100 being recruited currently, so when you add them together, there's going to be an even bigger surplus. Time to explore new routes? RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 6:15 pm)Andreos1 wrote But the excess of drivers...Possibly, wonder if they'll look in here at a couple of suggestions for routes. Tho none of us have a degree and is not from the local area. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - ALavery - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 5:24 pm)cbma06 wrote If the Xlines brand to be kept on, then have them in the same front half colour, but the backend colour should all be the same, ie corporate colours design back end, the rest of the fleet should go corporate colours apart from all over paid advertisements, GNE need to go back to basics, individual branded services and route branding does not work when there are allocated to run other services and cause confusion to customers/passengers and not enthusiasts, and get rid of the x20 for good, it’s not needed , put deckers on the 20/20a for capacity issues I don’t know why they don’t bring overall branding back? Black cats and peterlee purples (bar one venturing into newcastle) as an example, paint multiple bus types into the brand for multiple routes and then that creates more flexibility and more of an identity for local services. I never understood why the sunderland district brand was all individual brands as oppose to one overall bran just called sunderland district. Or, just paint everything corp and make everyones life easier RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Storx - 29 Sep 2022 (29 Sep 2022, 9:22 pm)ALavery wrote I don’t know why they don’t bring overall branding back? Black cats and peterlee purples (bar one venturing into newcastle) as an example, paint multiple bus types into the brand for multiple routes and then that creates more flexibility and more of an identity for local services. I never understood why the sunderland district brand was all individual brands as oppose to one overall bran just called sunderland district. Or, just paint everything corp and make everyones life easier It's pointless doing that as the point of a brand is you think, ooo the green Angel that's my bus. If you paint everything in the green Angel then it defeats the point of it. They tried to copy Trent Barton and Transdev where it actually works but then made an arse of it by changing names every other month and what buses are allocated with then multiple buses in the same brand which just defeats the point of it. It's like Kelloggs changing it's name of Special K to Supreme K, then Super K the week after or branding everything as Special K so you can't tell the different between the cereals from miles away. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 12 Nov 2022 Wonder if GNE would ever purchase any second hand young deckers which are maybe 3-4 year old for fleet replacements for services such as the 56/309/310/311. Blackpool if they still do the fleet-replacement every 4 years would be a good place to get them from. Rip out the interiors and replace them with GNE spec, ADL Seats, tables, USB, Wireless chargers then they're basically brand new! Their Citaros would be quite good on the 12/12A/X20/61 or 35 as they quite suit CItaros. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Dan - 12 Nov 2022 (12 Nov 2022, 5:07 pm)Unber43 wrote Wonder if GNE would ever purchase any second hand young deckers which are maybe 3-4 year old for fleet replacements for services such as the 56/309/310/311. Blackpool if they still do the fleet-replacement every 4 years would be a good place to get them from. GNE has pretty much replaced its entire fleet of Citaros - I can't see them wanting to bring Citaros back into the fleet any time soon. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 12 Nov 2022 (12 Nov 2022, 5:29 pm)Dan wrote GNE has pretty much replaced its entire fleet of Citaros - I can't see them wanting to bring Citaros back into the fleet any time soon.Maybe its because I have a soft spot for Citaros they are amazing buses, I was on the 35 and the versas are so much worse than the Citaros in quality. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Blockybus - 12 Nov 2022 (12 Nov 2022, 5:29 pm)Dan wrote GNE has pretty much replaced its entire fleet of Citaros - I can't see them wanting to bring Citaros back into the fleet any time soon. Go North East - Future Order Predictions - streetdeckfan - 14 Nov 2022 The Citaros were good for their time, but they aged badly and GNE's 'refurbishment' ruined them completely Sent from my SM-F721B using Tapatalk RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - nova347 - 17 Nov 2022 With any future orders do you think GNE will finally move to mirrorless buses? RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Malarkey - 18 Nov 2022 (12 Nov 2022, 5:29 pm)Dan wrote GNE has pretty much replaced its entire fleet of Citaros - I can't see them wanting to bring Citaros back into the fleet any time soon. Not even some eCitaro's? RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 19 Nov 2022 I think there are some 65 Plate Citaros which are being replaced in London, there are 15 9x 35 6x X20 10 Plate Citaros (X20) could be sent to CLS for 34 which needs 4 (1x Spare), 2x Spare for Deptford. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - L469 YVK - 19 Nov 2022 (19 Nov 2022, 2:24 pm)Unber43 wrote I think there are some 65 Plate Citaros which are being replaced in London, there are 15Why would GNE want Citaros? They're a money pit compared to StreetLites, Versas and E200MMCs RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - NL62WVW - 20 Nov 2022 (19 Nov 2022, 2:24 pm)Unber43 wrote 10 Plate Citaros (X20) could be sent to CLS for 34 which needs 4 (1x Spare), 2x Spare for Deptford. Washington don't you mean? RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 20 Nov 2022 (20 Nov 2022, 12:07 pm)NL62WVW wrote Washington don't you mean?Yeah RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Malarkey - 21 Nov 2022 (19 Nov 2022, 2:24 pm)Unber43 wrote I think there are some 65 Plate Citaros which are being replaced in London, there are 15 Go-Ahead London are getting 20 Scania Irizar IE Tram Buses to replace the 65reg Mercs on the 358 from Orpington Station to Crystal Palace which are due to enter service in early 2023, I would think 65reg Mercs would be cascaded to replace the older 09reg Mercs on the 108 from Stratford International to Lewisham with latter then cascaded elsewhere, I could also see the 108 being converted to Electric Buses in the New Year also, we'll have to wait and see what happens but I certainly wouldn't expect any cascades up here. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - nova347 - 05 Dec 2022 One thing I hate about E400MMC's, is that stupid AC vent at the front upstairs, first of all, its so loud and even when it's freezing outside it is still on. Like I don't think the E400MMC's even have any heating or if they do it's shit as they're also so cold. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - streetdeckfan - 05 Dec 2022 (05 Dec 2022, 2:19 pm)nova347 wrote One thing I hate about E400MMC's, is that stupid AC vent at the front upstairs, first of all, its so loud and even when it's freezing outside it is still on. Like I don't think the E400MMC's even have any heating or if they do it's shit as they're also so cold.The blow air heating on the Streetdecks is great, it blows down on top of you. It's a shame they didn't put adjustable vents up there as well! Sent from my SM-F721B using Tapatalk RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - ALavery - 05 Dec 2022 (05 Dec 2022, 5:05 pm)streetdeckfan wrote The blow air heating on the Streetdecks is great, it blows down on top of you. It's a shame they didn't put adjustable vents up there as well! i remember a few times though where the streetdecks had the heating on in the summer? Safe to say i was sweating enough to flood a city RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - streetdeckfan - 07 Dec 2022 Given how horrendously the seats of the newer X-Lines vehicles have aged, with any new orders are we likely to see a return full leather, or at least a darker colour scheme to hide the grime? I'm currently on 6099 and despite being refurbished 3 years ago it's still in better nick than the StreetDecks or E400s. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 07 Dec 2022 (07 Dec 2022, 5:06 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Given how horrendously the seats of the newer X-Lines vehicles have aged, with any new orders are we likely to see a return full leather, or at least a darker colour scheme to hide the grime?I like the interior of the Xlines buses, but I agree the cream hasn't aged well. Really they need to stick with one interior, within like the last 6 years theres been 4 or 5 different interiors. They need to stick with one, and I doubt there will be any more XLines which need Cream seats so I assume there just wont be any create seats. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 10 Dec 2022 Wonder if GNE would ever trial or buy an optare/switch again, just looked at their electric buses and the decker is awful, the only one I kinda like is e1. Also I really like the GB Kite. You could easily fit 1 table in them aswell. RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 10 Dec 2022 XLines X21 - E400EV 11x Newcastle - West Auckland (30 mins layover in Newcastle to charge as on a full charge it can only do the trip twice max) Simplicity 42|43 - E200EV 5x Silksworth - Sunderland (every 15 mins combined) Connections 2|3 - E200EV 7x Sunderland - Washington (every 30 mins) Connections 4 - eCitaro 19 x Heworth - Sunderland (every 15 mins combined) 4 - Heworth - Houghton - Doxford Park - Sunderland (every 30 mins) 4A Heworth - Houghton - Doxford Park (39A Route to Sunderland Park Lane) 6 - MCV Evora 9x Lanchester/Stanley - Newcastle (every 30 mins) Tyne Valley Ten 10|10A|10B - StreetDeck FCEV 20x Newcastle - Blackhall Mill/Low Prudhoe/Hexham (every 10 mins combined) Prince Bishops 20 - E200EV 9x Sunderland - Durham (every 15 mins) Angel 21 - StreetDeck FCEV 20x Newcastle - Chester-Le-Street either Ouston (hourly) or Waldridge Park (hourly) | Newcastle - Durham/Brandon (every 30 mins) | Newcastle - Bowburn Amazon (every 30 mins) Blaydon Racer 49|49A E200 EV 9x Gateshead - Winlaton (every 15 mins combined) CityRider 56 StreetDeck FCEV 11x Sunderland - Newcastle (every 15 mins) Drifter 60|61|62 Wrightbus GB KITE ELECTROLINER BEV or E200EV 7x 60 Parkside - Sunderland (every 12 mins) 3x 61 Sunderland - Murton (every 30 mins) 3x 62 Sunderland - Doxford Park - A19 - New Seaham - Dawdon - Murton - Easington - Peterlee (every 60 mins) (39 way to Doxford) Coast & Country 78 MCV Evora 7x Sunderland to Consett Cobalt & Coast 309|310|311 StreetDeck FCEV 17x Newcastle - Hadrian Park | North Shields | Blyth Overall Changes Red Kite Ranger 47 Upgraded to Volvo B5TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 3 (Ex-XLines X21) (PVR 7, 1 Spare) East Gateshead Rider 58 Upgraded to Wright StreetDeck Micro Hybrid (Ex-Angel) (PVR 7) East Gateshead Loop 93/94 Upgraded to Wright StreetDeck Micro Hybrid (Ex-Angel) (PVR 9) Country Ranger 8 Upgraded to Wright Streetlites (Ex - 6 (66 plates)) (PVR 6, 1 Spare) 35 Upgraded to Wright Streetlites or Mercedes Citaros (Ex Connections 4 or Prince Bishops) (PVR 8, 2 Spare) Wright Gemini 2 31x Placed on School Routes/Spare buses/327 Xlines X71/72 6x StreetDeck (ex X45/46) Xlines X1 2x StreetDeck (ex X45/46) there could be a further expansion of X1 route. 6350|6351 Painted to Xlines Charcoal (X10 Spare & Other Spare) Xlines X5|X15 4x Wright StreetDeck (ex Angel) 34 Reduced to every 30 mins (PVR 2) Angel 21 Extended to Durham every 15 mins, 2ph to Brandon, 2ph to Bowburn Amazon. Extended 1ph Waldridge Park, 1ph to Ouston Sunderland & District Graphite Every 15 Mins Combined 39 Sunderland Park Lane - Pennywell 39A Sunderland Park Lane - Pennywell (different route) Withdrawn - 8x Wright Streetlite (Drifter) 4x Mercedes Citaro (Violet) 11x Optare Versa (Berries) 21x Optare Versa (Corporate) 7x Wright Eclipse Gemini (Corporate) Issues - 16|16A|16B|27 will all need new/used buses RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 21 Dec 2022 I really love the look of the GB Kite, I hope GNE will get some RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - streetdeckfan - 21 Dec 2022 (21 Dec 2022, 10:52 am)Unber43 wrote I really love the look of the GB Kite, I hope GNE will get some I think it looks absolutely awful, it's got a very thicc forehead RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 21 Dec 2022 It should have dual display it has the space RE: Go North East - Future Order Predictions - Unber43 - 30 Mar 2023 GNE seem to be really struggling atm tbf. as someone mentioned TVT 7 are off, probs more, RK Rangers have awful reliablity, 11 Plate/12 Plate Deckers are struggling, especially with the hybrids. Drifters/Ex Saltwell Parks are struggling too. even the 15/16 plates lites are. Wonder if GNE engineering is just poor, I heard a driver say about a bus, its had a new engine, they should have got their money back (no idea for vehicle just heard it while passing) They need a huge order, ordering about 150 buses between 2011-2013 has done them no good |