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RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - CatsFast101 - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:14 pm)Dan wrote - X66 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand? Pulse - Possibly - not sure on numbers though, not from the area - with spare solar's - seem's likely. 64/64A/95/96 - might rejoin the Highwayman? - Whats their PVR? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand? Has certainly been suggested for a good two months or so now - and not by me this time! http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=784&pid=22211#pid22211 Well... Do you think the Pulse is gonna go red in a few weeks' time? If so, I see no problem with that suggestion. As for the 64/95/96, I doubt it - not yet. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand? 4969/5211/5212/5213 to the ''Pulse'' services, which leaves 5214/5215/5216/5217 to go somewhere. Possibly the X70/X71? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm)Dan wrote Has certainly been suggested for a good two months or so now - and not by me this time! It seems daft that all the B10's from 17/17/67/69/69A will go Northern when their inline to be withdrawn this year -.- Even though Dan said - a good tidy up might increase value, i still think its daft their wasting money when they won't even get much for them RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:34 pm)Michael wrote It seems daft that all the B10's from 17/17/67/69/69A will go Northern when their inline to be withdrawn this year -.- Gotta think - those B10BLEs have had a bit of work done to them! They're Euro 4, after all. Interiors aren't too shabby at present, but if they're given a thorough clean regardless... If they're in a more appropriate red (rather than a tired old yellow which hasn't been repainted for a good while), operators who are less likely to be able to afford £1.5k or so for a repaint, may be more tempted to buy them. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Kuyoyo - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:23 pm)Michael wrote Would be nice to see purple citaro's with black at the top! Ask and you shall receive RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Ask and you shall receive Yes, that's perfect, it suits the citaro really well RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Ask and you shall receive We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 11 Feb 2014 This could possibly happen if the Crusader did receive investment. Crusader Citaros: 5310-14 - Stanley for services X30 and X31. 5315-19/5328-29/30/32 to Stanley for the Red Kite Services. Laser Citaros: 5298-5309 - Deptford for Prince Bishops. Solars would displace Renowns. Red Kite Omnicities: 5234-42 - Percy Main for Centurion along with 5250 which could be a branded spare. Prince Bishops Solars: 4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. 4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. 5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. 5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:38 pm)Dan wrote Gotta think - those B10BLEs have had a bit of work done to them! They're Euro 4, after all. Interiors aren't too shabby at present, but if they're given a thorough clean regardless... Saying their euro 4 - then i agree - i didn't know that, as for being red, ye saves getting rid of the shabby yellow Tom- theirs also 4989-4992 - which is still the wrong colour for the Prince Bishops on the fleet allocation I would say 67/69/69A - 4969,4989,4890,4891,4892 -------------- Then theirs 5211,5212,5213,5214,5215,5216,5217 - Removes more B10's from frontline service. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan wrote We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! The current Prince Bishops doesn't look cheap, i really hope its not going to be Crusader job and be rubbish - if of course they receive them RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - CatsFast101 - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan wrote We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! I think the Prince Bishops livery is very good so if it's a new cheap one on the Citaros I'd be disappointed slightly. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:46 pm)Michael wrote Saying their euro 4 - then i agree - i didn't know that, as for being red, ye saves getting rid of the shabby yellow Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4. 4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3) 4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics). 5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services). 5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services) RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - northtynelinks2 - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm)Tom wrote Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4. Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm)Michael wrote The current Prince Bishops doesn't look cheap, i really hope its not going to be Crusader job and be rubbish - if of course they receive them That's the problem. I highly doubt it was cheap. Even though it's only a few vinyls, I'd suggest it wasn't on the cheap side. If GNE think it is to receive investment the following year (far too early to be discussing this, but hey ho!), I'm inclined to suggest that it will be a cheaper design to get them through the year prior to yet another cascade (probably the Fast Cats, or something similar). (11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm)Tom wrote Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4. Where's aureolin with his contractual requirement line?! (11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys? It does. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys? Yeah, mostly. It's normally on the Blaydon Racers when the Soccerbus isn't operating, but is branded for advertising. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Kuyoyo - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan wrote We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Simple answer to that net - it was either a plain purple one or use the present branding, so easy choice to make. As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm)Kuyoyo wrote As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Somewhat similar services, aren't they? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Simple answer to that net - it was either a plain purple one or use the present branding, so easy choice to make. It looks much better on a versa than the current B10's. bet it gets some streetshites though! RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Kuyoyo - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:56 pm)Dan wrote Why else would you think I'd choose that rather than a Citaro (other than not presently having a decent Euro6 style Citaro net)? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:59 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Why else would you think I'd choose that rather than a Citaro (other than not presently having a decent Euro6 style Citaro net)? Think you've missed the point... Just thinking out loud, y'know... What's just happened with the Fast Cats? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Kuyoyo - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 6:00 pm)Dan wrote Think you've missed the point... Not missing the point, point know for quite some time RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - CatsFast101 - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Ask and you shall receive Must admit I'm slightly in love with that purple Citaro looks great. Can't wait to see the WearTees Xpress ones! RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Malarkey - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 6:00 pm)Dan wrote Think you've missed the point... I agree with you Daniel, I believe I mentioned this a few months ago in the Service Suggestions Thread or Perhaps even this Thread, and I also agree Kuyoyo has completely missed the point you were making, which was to have the 57 under the Citylink Branding along side the 58, as they are pretty similar Routes between Newcastle and Heworth, So therefore branding the 57 Citylink would make Perfect sense, Hence the Reason Dan put the Citylink Versa Image up on his Post. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Adrian - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)Dan wrote Where's aureolin with his contractual requirement line?! Right here. I'd think the X66 Merc artics would possibly suit as a replacement for the X40 Scania artics? RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 6:20 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote I agree with you Daniel, I believe I mentioned this a few months ago in the Service Suggestions Thread or Perhaps even this Thread, and I also agree Kuyoyo has completely missed the point you were making, which was to have the 57 under the Citylink Branding along side the 58, as they are pretty similar Routes between Newcastle and Heworth, So therefore branding the 57 Citylink would make Perfect sense, Hence the Reason Dan put the Citylink Versa Image up on his Post. I would also agree... i would of also included the 56 in the Citylink brand, since it links 2 city's so the 56,57,58 would all be under the Citylink brand RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 6:28 pm)aureolin wrote Right here. I'd think the X66 Merc artics would possibly suit as a replacement for the X40 Scania artics? Would be a good idea - not so sure if the Scania artics would be worth as great a value as the Merc when traded in part exchange (we assume...) using Optare Direct though... Also the issue of re-creating the X40 livery. Rather expensive that one was, and obviously required external painters (Thornton's) owing to the size of the bus and the complexity of the base livery. RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Malarkey - 11 Feb 2014 Just a thought what if GNE Traded in the Following via Optare, how much Discount would they get on such a Big Order, Plus would Intu/Great Park put any Money in Towards Investment, Like the Cobalt/Npower have for the Geminis on the 309/310 and X1/921, Just Curious, As this would then Allow for Vehicles to be Withdrawn, and obviously if the Crusader/Laser/Toonlink and Lime all Receive Investment, Further Cascades would allow for Further Withdrawal of older Vehicles in the Fleet, Thus allowing for Further Standardisation of the Fleet. X40 Artics X66 Artics FAB 57/Pulse/Centurion Renowns Total of Versas = 32 Versas Plus 28 Citaros = Lime/Toonlink 34 Geminis = Laser/Crusader Total = 94 New Buses - Over the 80 we are Expecting this Year - But for Discount on Big Orders/Possible Investment from Intu/Great Park, Then might worth Investing in Another 14 Buses Re: RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Adrian - 12 Feb 2014 (11 Feb 2014, 6:31 pm)Dan wrote Would be a good idea - not so sure if the Scania artics would be worth as great a value as the Merc when traded in part exchange (we assume...) using Optare Direct though... That's a good point. I guess it comes down to the trade in cost vs replacing the Scania artics soon (12 years old now?). May be worthwhile keeping the Mercs and paying a bit extra for the Versas. |