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High Speed Three - Dan - 27 Oct 2014
News and discussion on High Speed Three
RE: High Speed Three - Dan - 27 Oct 2014
High Speed Three has been covered by quite a few newspapers recently, a number of related articles are given below...
David Cameron: Big benefits for North in high-speed rail revolution
Read more: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/columnists/david-cameron-big-benefits-for-north-in-high-speed-rail-revolution-1-6917753
Train journey times between northern cities could be slashed
Read more: http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/newS/11560201.Train_journey_times_between_northern_cities_could_be_slashed/?ref=rss
Sheffield Council leader - HS3 rail plans focus on ‘speed not economy’
Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/sheffield-council-leader-hs3-rail-plans-focus-on-speed-not-economy-1-6917602
Breaking: New HS3 rail link to connect north and slash Sheffield journey times
Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/breaking-new-hs3-rail-link-to-connect-north-and-slash-sheffield-journey-times-1-6917585
Manchester to Leeds in just 35 minutes as part of ‘HS3′ plan
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2014/10/27/manchester-to-leeds-in-just-35-minutes-as-part-of-hs3-plan-4922961/
'HS3' plan would cut journey times between Manchester and Leeds by half
Read more: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/hs3-plan-would-cut-journey-8000956
Leeds to Manchester in 26 minutes as new HS3 train service to halve journey times
Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hs3-leeds-manchester-26-minutes-4513364
Ministers give the go-ahead for THIRD high speed rail link: And we don't even know what HS2 will cost us yet!
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2808702/Cameron-Osborne-set-approve-controversial-HS3-rail-line-halve-journey-times-northern-cities-despite-official-review-huge-cost-HS2.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
PM and Chancellor give green light to develop HS3
Read more: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-and-chancellor-give-green-light-to-develop-hs3
HS3: Manchester to Leeds in half an hour as rail plan is ready to depart
Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-to-leeds-inhalf-an-hour-hs3-rail-plan-is-ready-to-depart-9819828.html
PM backs HS3 plans to cut journey times
Read more: http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/wider-political-news/pm-backs-hs3-plans-to-cut-journey-times.25688090?utm_source=www.heraldscotland.com&utm_medium=RSS%20Feed&utm_campaign=Scottish%20Political%20News
HS3: Pennines rail tunnel key to high-speed plans for the north
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/pennines-tunnel-hs3-plans
David Cameron backs 'HS3' rail link for north of England
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29779134
RE: High Speed Three - Adrian - 27 Oct 2014
Not convinced about this one. I think it's more of a political project, rather than one that fixes a massive problem.
RE: High Speed Three - Andreos1 - 27 Oct 2014
As I said back in June (http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=341&page=2), the Government need to realise there are other cities, people and businesses beyond Leeds and Manchester.
The current line between Leeds and Manchester isn't good enough - but a lot of that, is to do with the geography and victorian engineering.
The current line between Doncaster/York and Newcastle isn't good enough - but a lot of that is not to do with the geography and more the lack of track upgrades or loops.
No matter how much money is spent improving links to Manchester and Leeds, the bottleneck north of York will still exist.
I often look out of the train window when heading north on an East Coast at Doncaster and/or York to see what (if anything) is pulling ahead of us.
Sometimes a late running Cross Stinky gets in the way and the East Coast is held back, held up and stuck - potentially all the way to Edinburgh.
Added to that, are the lack of passing loops on the two track stretch.
If a freight train happens to have issues - it leads to the whole stretch grinding to a halt.
HS2 and HS3 isn't going to fix any of that.
RE: High Speed Three - MurdnunoC - 28 Oct 2014
As I've said elsewhere, I'm not against the idea of HS2 or HS3 but I'd rather see the money spent on upgrading the entire rail network - north to south; east to west - which might include building new lines or reopening old ones.
With the exception of track replacement, electrification and signalling, the network hasn't changed much since its Victorian heyday. In fact, as lines have closed, one could argue that our railways are in a worse state now than they were 100 years ago.
RE: High Speed Three - Dan - 28 Oct 2014
High-speed rail link should be extended north of the Border
Read more: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport/high-speed-rail-link-should-be-extended-north-of-the-border.25716570?utm_source=www.heraldscotland.com&utm_medium=RSS%20Feed&utm_campaign=Scottish%20News
RE: High Speed Three - Andreos1 - 28 Oct 2014
Total pie in the sky idea here (too much Railroad Tycoon).
The WCML has had millions spent on it and really, only serves a limited part of the country north of Preston etc.
At times heading down the M6, you are lucky to see a train at all.
The link between Leeds and Manchester is said to be important, but does nowt for the North East.
How about a new east/west link, basically following the route of the A66, using the valleys around Kirkby Stephen to link to the WCML?
No doubt it would cost billions and upset environmentalists...
RE: High Speed Three - Michael - 28 Oct 2014
(28 Oct 2014, 12:23 pm)Andreos1 wrote Total pie in the sky idea here (too much Railroad Tycoon).
The WCML has had millions spent on it and really, only serves a limited part of the country north of Preston etc.
At times heading down the M6, you are lucky to see a train at all.
The link between Leeds and Manchester is said to be important, but does nowt for the North East.
How about a new east/west link, basically following the route of the A66, using the valleys around Kirkby Stephen to link to the WCML?
No doubt it would cost billions and upset environmentalists...
Don't see why they need to spend billion for a HS railway when it only cuts times by 30 mins in some areas... waste of money.
Like you said... does nothing for us in the NE...
RE: High Speed Three - Andreos1 - 20 Mar 2015
Government plans for HS3, which seem to have suddenly included the NE...
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/revolutionary-plans-for-northern-transport-set-out
There are also proposals for upgrades, rather than building of new lines.
RE: High Speed Three - omnicity4659 - 20 Mar 2015
Wasn't HS3 the one that would link Wales to London?