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Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 09 Sep 2015

A British airways 777-200 on flight BA2276 from Las Vegas to London has erupted in flames on the runway more news coming soon...


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 09 Sep 2015

(09 Sep 2015, 5:52 am)NK53 TKT wrote A British airways 777-200 on flight BA2252 from Las Vegas to London has erupted in flames on the runway more news coming soon...

No Fatalities


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 09 Sep 2015

(09 Sep 2015, 6:03 am)NK53 TKT wrote No Fatalities

G-VIIO.

Write up from the BA source.

http://www.thebasource.com/british-airways-b777-200er-g-viio-las-vegas-rejected-take-off-and-fire/


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

Been a devastating air crash in Egypt this morning, north of Sharm-el-Sheikh, all 224 passengers on board Kogylymavia flight 9268 from Sharm-el-Sheikh to St Petersburg Pulkovo airport.
This concerns me as I was in Sharm at Easter and I am supposed to be going back in July 2016. There probably will not be an answer unless the BEA join the investigation team.
R.I.P


RE: Aircraft Incidents - Michael - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Been a devastating air crash in Egypt this morning, north of Sharm-el-Sheikh, all 224 passengers on board Kogylymavia flight 9268 from Sharm-el-Sheikh to St Petersburg Pulkovo airport.
This concerns me as I was in Sharm at Easter and I am supposed to be going back in July 2016. There probably will not be an answer unless the BEA join the investigation team.
R.I.P

Update:

At least 100 victims, many of whom were still strapped to their seats, have been pulled from the wreckage of the Russian passenger plane which crashed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, rescue officials say.

So sad. R.I.P.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Been a devastating air crash in Egypt this morning, north of Sharm-el-Sheikh, all 224 passengers on board Kogylymavia flight 9268 from Sharm-el-Sheikh to St Petersburg Pulkovo airport.
This concerns me as I was in Sharm at Easter and I am supposed to be going back in July 2016. There probably will not be an answer unless the BEA join the investigation team.
R.I.P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268  Sad


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 1:31 pm)Michael wrote Update:

At least 100 victims, many of whom were still strapped to their seats, have been pulled from the wreckage of the Russian passenger plane which crashed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, rescue officials say.

So sad. R.I.P.

Very, very sad the plane is an A321, I believe this is the types first crash, I was last on G-TCDC of Thomas Cook in 2014


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Very, very sad the plane is an A321, I believe this is the types first crash, I was last on G-TCDC of Thomas Cook in 2014

I love the A321. I've flown on 4 of BA's fleet and I much prefer them to the A320/A319. Seem 'more' of an aircraft, so to speak.

That aside, what a tragic event. It seems to be a leased aircraft from Ireland. There's rumors on the net (airliners.net forum) that the pilot wanted to make a landing at Cairo due to 'engine difficulties'. 

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6536452/

Jump to post 57. It'll be interesting to see what transpires. 

I've flown with Rossiya (now owned by Aeroflot) on one of their A319s. I had a Russian-registered one when I flew St Petersburg - Amsterdam on a KLM codeshare. This was the year when there was a few Russian aviation incidents, including the one involving Lokomotiv Yaroslavl' and their hockey team. The service onboard, the age of the aircraft and just general appearance did not give me a good feel for Russian aviation. Needless to say, when I go back nowadays to LED or DME, I fly BA.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 2:03 pm)8222 wrote I love the A321. I've flown on 4 of BA's fleet and I much prefer them to the A320/A319. Seem 'more' of an aircraft, so to speak.

That aside, what a tragic event. It seems to be a leased aircraft from Ireland. There's rumors on the net (airliners.net forum) that the pilot wanted to make a landing at Cairo due to 'engine difficulties'. 

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6536452/

Jump to post 57. It'll be interesting to see what transpires. 

I've flown with Rossiya (now owned by Aeroflot) on one of their A319s. I had a Russian-registered one when I flew St Petersburg - Amsterdam on a KLM codeshare. This was the year when there was a few Russian aviation incidents, including the one involving Lokomotiv Yaroslavl' and their hockey team. The service onboard, the age of the aircraft and just general appearance did not give me a good feel for Russian aviation. Needless to say, when I go back nowadays to LED or DME, I fly BA.

I think what's also interesting is that there's a lot of Irish-leased aircraft operating in Russia. The likes of Transaero, Rossiya and this airline all fly them. I wonder if it was a dry/damp/wet lease agreement.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Very, very sad the plane is an A321, I believe this is the types first crash, I was last on G-TCDC of Thomas Cook in 2014

I think there's been a few fatalities on an Air Blue A321 that downed a few years back.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 2:03 pm)8222 wrote I love the A321. I've flown on 4 of BA's fleet and I much prefer them to the A320/A319. Seem 'more' of an aircraft, so to speak.

That aside, what a tragic event. It seems to be a leased aircraft from Ireland. There's rumors on the net (airliners.net forum) that the pilot wanted to make a landing at Cairo due to 'engine difficulties'. 

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6536452/

Jump to post 57. It'll be interesting to see what transpires. 

I've flown with Rossiya (now owned by Aeroflot) on one of their A319s. I had a Russian-registered one when I flew St Petersburg - Amsterdam on a KLM codeshare. This was the year when there was a few Russian aviation incidents, including the one involving Lokomotiv Yaroslavl' and their hockey team. The service onboard, the age of the aircraft and just general appearance did not give me a good feel for Russian aviation. Needless to say, when I go back nowadays to LED or DME, I fly BA.
Never been to Russia, but the Thomas Cook ones I have been (G-TCDC and G-TCDF) on were great


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 2:05 pm)8222 wrote I think what's also interesting is that there's a lot of Irish-leased aircraft operating in Russia. The likes of Transaero, Rossiya and this airline all fly them. I wonder if it was a dry/damp/wet lease agreement.

Many are Irish, many also with Metrojet, the Russian TUI
I wonder what lease it was on too


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 31 Oct 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 2:47 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Many are Irish, many also with Metrojet, the Russian TUI
I wonder what lease it was on too

That, and who does the MX on it. It must have been an early model as it was 18 year old.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

In crash scene pictures it shows many ambulances, none to pick up the injured sadly ;-(


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 31 Oct 2015

93 knots is too slow for an Airbus A321 at FL280


RE: Aircraft Incidents - Simmy - 01 Nov 2015

Isis' Sinai Province has 'claimed responsibility' for the crash, however Moscow and Cairo dispute the claims.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 01 Nov 2015

(31 Oct 2015, 10:41 pm)NK53 TKT wrote 93 knots is too slow for an Airbus A321 at FL280

You're edging on a stall at that speed. You want to be pitching down to get glide speed as per the US Airways A320 that landed on the Hudson. Any slight upward movement would have stalled at that speed.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - MrFozz - 01 Nov 2015

(01 Nov 2015, 12:00 am)Simmy wrote Isis' Sinai Province has 'claimed responsibility' for the crash, however Moscow and Cairo dispute the claims.
My first toughts on this was a so-called Islamic State North Sinai revenge attack in retaliation for bombing IS positions in Syria, guess we will have to wait and see what an investigation comes up with


RE: Aircraft Incidents - tyresmoke - 01 Nov 2015

If you read through the full thread on PPRuNe (which is a forum with many thousands of pilots on) it seems almost certain that the aircraft broke apart in mid air. This could be caused by a missile strike, however it could also be caused by some catastrophic failure... This airframe did suffer a tail strike back in 2004, in Cairo ironically, which could be a point to look at, if this has caused some fatigue that has eventually failed.
It will be interesting to see what the investigators find


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 01 Nov 2015

(01 Nov 2015, 9:31 am)tyresmoke wrote If you read through the full thread on PPRuNe (which is a forum with many thousands of pilots on) it seems almost certain that the aircraft broke apart in mid air. This could be caused by a missile strike, however it could also be caused by some catastrophic failure... This airframe did suffer a tail strike back in 2004, in Cairo ironically, which could be a point to look at, if this has caused some fatigue that has eventually failed.
It will be interesting to see what the investigators find

Yes
But no offence to anyone.
According to previous investigations the Russians will lie and Egypt will blame Russia


RE: Aircraft Incidents - MrFozz - 02 Nov 2015

(01 Nov 2015, 9:40 am)NK53 TKT wrote Yes
But no offence to anyone.
According to previous investigations the Russians will lie and Egypt will blame Russia

It is one of there own this time, not like, say, MH17, cant see them lying, not to there own people, if there at fault, they will just not tell anybody.

There now saying Pilot Error has been ruled out, and it apparantly has to be something external, Terrorism has not been ruled out yet


RE: Aircraft Incidents - Andreos1 - 02 Nov 2015

It is unfortunately quite ironic if it has been shot down - especially following events and alleged reasons apportioned to MH17 coming down.

If it has been taken down by ISIS, I can't see the Russians going down the same diplomatic route as the rest of the world did with MH17.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 02 Nov 2015

(02 Nov 2015, 10:49 am)MrFozz wrote It is one of there own this time, not like, say, MH17, cant see them lying, not to there own people, if there at fault, they will just not tell anybody.

There now saying Pilot Error has been ruled out, and it apparantly has to be something external, Terrorism has not been ruled out yet

According to the BBC, it was an airline official that suggested that it was "due to an external influence."

However, the Government stance is that it's, "premature to speculate" and, "this kind of talk is not based on any facts."

Even if it was one of their own, you would be surprised the spin the Russian Authorities can put on anything. 

At the end of the day, the only time we will properly know what's happened is when the black boxes have been decoded and analysed. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34697416


RE: Aircraft Incidents - MrFozz - 02 Nov 2015

(02 Nov 2015, 4:11 pm)8222 wrote According to the BBC, it was an airline official that suggested that it was "due to an external influence."

However, the Government stance is that it's, "premature to speculate" and, "this kind of talk is not based on any facts."

Even if it was one of their own, you would be surprised the spin the Russian Authorities can put on anything. 

At the end of the day, the only time we will properly know what's happened is when the black boxes have been decoded and analysed. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34697416

I am just going on what I have heard, of course at the moment there is and will be a lof speculation on what happened.

A few front pages seem to be reporting it was shot down by so called IS...

Out of interest, has the Black Box(es) been discovered???


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 02 Nov 2015

(02 Nov 2015, 4:20 pm)MrFozz wrote I am just going on what I have heard, of course at the moment there is and will be a lof speculation on what happened.

A few front pages seem to be reporting it was shot down by so called IS...

Out of interest, has the Black Box(es) been discovered???

They've been found and are being analysed.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - MrFozz - 02 Nov 2015

(02 Nov 2015, 4:26 pm)8222 wrote They've been found and are being analysed.
Not being an aviation expert or anything, how many black boxes is there on an Aeroplane and how long does it take to analyse them...

Lets say for a mimute? it is discovered to be a so called IS shootdown, could be similar questions be asked along the lines of MH17 i.e. Why did it go Flying over a place that is known to have a terrorist element in tne area...


RE: Aircraft Incidents - NK53 TKT - 02 Nov 2015

(02 Nov 2015, 4:33 pm)MrFozz wrote Not being an aviation expert or anything, how many black boxes is there on an Aeroplane and how long does it take to analyse them...

Lets say for a mimute? it is discovered to be a so called IS shootdown, could be similar questions be asked along the lines of MH17 i.e. Why did it go Flying over a place that is known to have a terrorist element in tne area...
If ISIS is at fault I will rearrange my luxury upcoming Egyptian holiday.
A plane has two black boxes


RE: Aircraft Incidents - 8222 - 03 Nov 2015

(02 Nov 2015, 4:33 pm)MrFozz wrote Not being an aviation expert or anything, how many black boxes is there on an Aeroplane and how long does it take to analyse them...

Lets say for a mimute? it is discovered to be a so called IS shootdown, could be similar questions be asked along the lines of MH17 i.e. Why did it go Flying over a place that is known to have a terrorist element in tne area...

It usually consists of two parts: Flight Data Recorder and your Cockpit Voice Recorder.

At the end of the day, it's down to the airline where they fly (minus China where air routes are set - no matter how rough the chop maybe en route) so they calculate the risk. Some airlines are more risk averse than others, I guess, but at the end of the day, they won't knowingly put anyone in danger. Slightly different, I know, but I remember flying home from MEX on BA and them totally rerouting our flight to avoid some stormy weather out on the Mexican Gulf. It added a an hour onto our flight on the good old 744, but better safe than sorry. Interesting, that should it have been the case in China, you wouldn't be allowed to deviate.


RE: Aircraft Incidents - Michael - 04 Nov 2015

At least 17 people are dead after a Russian-built cargo plane crashed shortly after take-off from an airport in South Sudan, according to local media and news agencies

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/world/south-sudan-plane-crash/index.html?sr=fb11415southsudanplanecrash438aStoryLink

Its from CNN (American News channel)


RE: Aircraft Incidents - Michael - 04 Nov 2015

Bali Airport Closed After Volcanic Eruption
Passengers wait for information on delayed and cancelled flights after a volcanic eruption on Lombok Island.

http://news.sky.com/story/1581458/bali-airport-closed-after-volcanic-eruption