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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - Dans_bus_photos - 01 May 2017

(30 Apr 2017, 5:51 pm)topsweep1506 wrote Buses currently transferred to slatyford from Walkergate are

10638 19203 39722 39723 39724 39725 39726

And 22345 is down to be transferred to but still at Walkergate depot

Any idea whats been withdrawn from Slatyford as a result? I'm assuming the remaining 6 darts will all be going


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dans_bus_photos - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 10:30 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote Any idea whats been withdrawn from Slatyford as a result? I'm assuming the remaining 6 darts will all be going

Have just been past Slatyford depot and 22345 is now there parked up at the back. 35192-95, 22072 and 22075 are all now parked down the side of the depot next to 22013 all without ticket machines so have presumably been withdrawn.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - big mac - 01 May 2017

Anyone know how the bank holiday x24 has done in terms of passengers?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - LiamD55 - 01 May 2017

Has 10652 went to Walkergate ?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - topsweep1506 - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 4:10 pm)LiamD55 wrote Has 10652 went to Walkergate ?

No just came in to get cleaned out as someone had a crap upstairs 
10632 went out in place of it then swapped back over on its way to killy


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Ds1197 - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 3:57 pm)big mac wrote Anyone know how the bank holiday x24 has done in terms of passengers?

My journey had 10 passengers including me that's better then it does during a normal weekday service


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Simmy - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 4:44 pm)topsweep1506 wrote No just came in to get cleaned out as someone had a crap upstairs 
10632 went out in place of it then swapped back over on its way to killy

Think that I'll give 10632 a miss next time I am on the 62/63...  Undecided


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - big mac - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 4:46 pm)Ds1197 wrote My journey had 10 passengers including me that's better then it does during a normal weekday service

What time was that?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Ds1197 - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 6:06 pm)big mac wrote What time was that?

About 16:25


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - big mac - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 6:09 pm)Ds1197 wrote About 16:25

I have used it at about that time on Saturday out of Newcastle and it has been quite busy.  At least 20 if not more.  Perhaps busier on a Saturday with shoppers than weekdays?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - LiamD55 - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 4:44 pm)topsweep1506 wrote No just came in to get cleaned out as someone had a crap upstairs 
10632 went out in place of it then swapped back over on its way to killy

Nasty Dodgy


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - topsweep1506 - 01 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 7:36 pm)LiamD55 wrote Nasty Dodgy

Yep not one of the best things to do, luckily i didnt do it lol


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - NK53 TKT - 02 May 2017

First day going out in rush hour without the 32/32A and less 6s. Give me luck!


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - Michael - 02 May 2017

Was on the Newcastle services map on the Stagecoach site and noticed:

"Sorry, but Megarider, Dayrider, Smartzone and Network One tickets are not valid on service X55".

Yet nothing is on the site about the X55... No info or timetables, thought they would advertise it all the time, like they did with the X24.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Cock Robin - 03 May 2017

(01 May 2017, 7:45 pm)topsweep1506 wrote Yep not one of the best things to do, luckily i didnt do it lol

Got a good idea who did! Big Grin


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - topsweep1506 - 03 May 2017

20550 and 22076 at Walkergate depot tonight looks like 20550 has just had a repaint as its got no vinyls at the rear


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - Cock Robin - 04 May 2017

"Well, from what I've heard:

13 reduced to Middlesbrough-Salters Lane only - saving of 2 buses
14/34 reduced to half hourly - again saving 2 buses"


So nothing serving Tollesby or Brookfield or Hemlington Hall Road?
I thought that end of the 13 was more viable than the other end? They knocked the Portrack service on the head before and only restarted it when Alrite Travel put a service on.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - topsweep1506 - 05 May 2017

(03 May 2017, 7:10 pm)topsweep1506 wrote 20550 and 22076 at Walkergate depot tonight looks like 20550 has just had a repaint as its got no vinyls at the rear

Looks like Walkergate are getting 20550 as a new training bus as there just waiting for vinyls to come then its ready to go


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - RBZ 5459 - 05 May 2017

(05 May 2017, 7:44 am)topsweep1506 wrote Looks like Walkergate are getting 20550 as a new training bus as there just waiting for vinyls to come then its ready to go

The Group will be soon making it mandatory for divisions to have at least 55 plate MANs soon, so will be short lived. There are already some ex-Scottish ones done for the Midlands, with the Scottish SF/SP batch looking like ones to be done as pretty much most will be disposal. NE obviously has a batch of 55 plates so further ahead contenders, perhaps the 54s might be allowed. Western just got three 06 plates from Manchester.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - Cock Robin - 05 May 2017

(05 May 2017, 9:21 am)RBZ 5459 wrote The Group will be soon making it mandatory for divisions to have at least 55 plate MANs soon, so will be short lived. There are already some ex-Scottish ones done for the Midlands, with the Scottish SF/SP batch looking like ones to be done as pretty much most will be disposal. NE obviously has a batch of 55 plates so further ahead contenders, perhaps the 54s might be allowed. Western just got three 06 plates from Manchester.

What's the point of that when the 03 reg ones are identical?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - RBZ 5459 - 05 May 2017

(05 May 2017, 12:07 pm)Cock Robin wrote What's the point of that when the 03 reg ones are identical?

Stagecoach logic!
Hopefully NE will get away with using what they have when the time comes, but giving 20550 a new paint and vinyls does seem a bit unnecessary. 


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - RBZ 5459 - 05 May 2017

Summary of fleet movements Period 1 (to week commencing 30th April)

BUSWAYS
10638 SN16OYD ADL E400 MMC [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
17240 X368NNO DENNIS TRIDENT [In service City Sightseeing]
17647 W647RND DENNIS TRIDENT [Delicenced -> Disposal]
19203 NK57DWJ ADL ENVIRO 400 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
20550 P550ESA VOLVO B10M [Stockton -> Walkergate]
20554 P554ESA VOLVO B10M [Walkergate -> Disposal]
22072 NK54BFY MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22075 NK54BGF MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22076 NK54BGO MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22077 NK54BGU MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22078 NK54BGV MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22345 NK55AJX MAN ALX300 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
22346 NK55AJY MAN ALX300 [Walkergate -> Reserve]
22515 SF56FKT MAN 18.240 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22574 SP08DDA MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22580 SP08DDN MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
39722 NK09EPU MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39723 NK09EPP MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39724 NK09EGU MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39725 NK09EGX MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39726 NK09EGY MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
34401 NK53KFW DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
35188 NK56FFH DENNIS DART SLF [S/ford Res. -> S/Shields Res]
35190 NK56FFL DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35191 NK56FFM DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35192 NK56FFN DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35193 NK56FFO DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35194 NK56FFP DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35195 NK56FFR DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]

TRANSIT 
20550 P550ESA VOLVO B10M [Stockton -> Walkergate]
27507 NK05JXF ADL E300 [In service at Stockton]
27510 NK05JXJ ADL E300 [Stockton -> Reserve]
34561 NK04KZU DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
34563 NK04KZW DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
34564 NK04KZX DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
54045 SF57DRV VOLVO B12B [West Scotland -> Reserve]


Also here is a summary of PVR changes, I've formulated which should correspond reality.

NORTH TYNESIDE PVR CHANGES
Walkergate
12: remains 12, but made of 10 ADL E400 and 2 ADL E400H
18: 4 to 3
39/40: 23 to 21
62/63: 7 to 6
15/15A: withdrawn, 4 to 0

Total: 108 to 99
PVR: 108 to 99 (decrease of 8)

Slatyford
6/7/8: 7 to 8
32/32A: 7 to 6 
X47: 5 to 4
62/63: 14 to 16
72: 2 to 1
X82: 3 to 2 
100: 5 to 4, but made up of 3 E300 and 1 ALX300
Kinetics remain 'spare'

Total: 98 to 92
PVR: 87 to 82 (decrease of 5)


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - AIG20 - 05 May 2017

22515 SF56FKT MAN 18.240 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22574 SP08DDA MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22580 SP08DDN MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]

Well, the above vehicles haven't lasted very long! Surely it could have been more cost effective to buy more new vehicles (which I assume are covered with some sort of warranty for a few years?) than to obtain worn out vehicles from other divisions that end up completely failing a few months after entering service  - including after having an extensive refurbishment?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - RBZ 5459 - 05 May 2017

(05 May 2017, 4:34 pm)AIG20 wrote 22515 SF56FKT MAN 18.240 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22574 SP08DDA MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22580 SP08DDN MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]

Well, the above vehicles haven't lasted very long! Surely it could have been more cost effective to buy more new vehicles (which I assume are covered with some sort of warranty for a few years?) than to obtain worn out vehicles from other divisions that end up completely failing a few months after entering service  - including after having an extensive refurbishment?

All three getting repaired currently so keeps it tidy on paper with recent changes. Been off for a while 22580 and 22515, didn't think a second E300 was longterm dead to the world. Sometimes you wish enthusiasts had a say in movements! Useless bags of shite....


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - tyresmoke - 05 May 2017

(05 May 2017, 5:29 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote All three getting repaired currently so keeps it tidy on paper with recent changes. Been off for a while 22580 and 22515, didn't think a second E300 was longterm dead to the world. Sometimes you wish enthusiasts had a say in movements! Useless bags of shite....

If them Kinetics are spare and they're wanting newer training buses around 2005/6 age....


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - stagecoachbusdepot - 06 May 2017

RBZ 5459 Wrote:
Oh yeah, 35188 landed at Shields. Reserve pool quite possibly now. Although odd when Slatyford are short, even odder when they send 36464 across.


Does anyone know if 35188 has seen service in South Shields (this time around) - or just there for storage?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - South Tyne Lad - 06 May 2017

(06 May 2017, 6:46 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote RBZ 5459 Wrote:
   Oh yeah, 35188 landed at Shields. Reserve pool quite possibly now. Although odd when Slatyford are short, even odder when they send 36464 across.


Does anyone know if 35188 has seen service in South Shields (this time around) - or just there for storage?

35188 hasn't entered Service yet at Shields, I believe its getting a tart up before entering service, Though could be wrong.

Last time I seen 34611 was Wednesday/Thursday time, And with 35188 expected very shortly, I wouldn't be surprised if that's its last time in service here, Unless 35188 will not be available for Monday?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - stagecoachbusdepot - 06 May 2017

(06 May 2017, 9:00 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote 35188 hasn't entered Service yet at Shields, I believe its getting a tart up before entering service, Though could be wrong.

Last time I seen 34611 was Wednesday/Thursday time, And with 35188 expected very shortly, I wouldn't be surprised if that's its last time in service here, Unless 35188 will not be available for Monday?

Wouldn't bet it will displace anything, 35189 was expected to replace 34605 at Sunderland but both remain in regular service


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - Simmy - 06 May 2017

(06 May 2017, 9:00 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote 35188 hasn't entered Service yet at Shields, I believe its getting a tart up before entering service, Though could be wrong.

Last time I seen 34611 was Wednesday/Thursday time, And with 35188 expected very shortly, I wouldn't be surprised if that's its last time in service here, Unless 35188 will not be available for Monday?

Saw 34611 running NIS on the A183 past the Marsden grotto this morning but not sure where it was heading.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017 - Cock Robin - 08 May 2017

(05 May 2017, 1:47 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Summary of fleet movements Period 1 (to week commencing 30th April)

BUSWAYS
10638 SN16OYD ADL E400 MMC [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
17240 X368NNO DENNIS TRIDENT [In service City Sightseeing]
17647 W647RND DENNIS TRIDENT [Delicenced -> Disposal]
19203 NK57DWJ ADL ENVIRO 400 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
20550 P550ESA VOLVO B10M [Stockton -> Walkergate]
20554 P554ESA VOLVO B10M [Walkergate -> Disposal]
22072 NK54BFY MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22075 NK54BGF MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22076 NK54BGO MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22077 NK54BGU MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22078 NK54BGV MAN ALX300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22345 NK55AJX MAN ALX300 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
22346 NK55AJY MAN ALX300 [Walkergate -> Reserve]
22515 SF56FKT MAN 18.240 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22574 SP08DDA MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
22580 SP08DDN MAN E300 [Slatyford -> Reserve]
39722 NK09EPU MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39723 NK09EPP MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39724 NK09EGU MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39725 NK09EGX MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
39726 NK09EGY MAN E200 [Walkergate -> Slatyford]
34401 NK53KFW DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
35188 NK56FFH DENNIS DART SLF [S/ford Res. -> S/Shields Res]
35190 NK56FFL DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35191 NK56FFM DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35192 NK56FFN DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35193 NK56FFO DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35194 NK56FFP DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]
35195 NK56FFR DENNIS DART SLF [Slatyford -> Reserve]

TRANSIT 
20550 P550ESA VOLVO B10M [Stockton -> Walkergate]
27507 NK05JXF ADL E300 [In service at Stockton]
27510 NK05JXJ ADL E300 [Stockton -> Reserve]
34561 NK04KZU DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
34563 NK04KZW DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
34564 NK04KZX DENNIS DART SLF [Reserve -> Cheltenham]
54045 SF57DRV VOLVO B12B [West Scotland -> Reserve]


Also here is a summary of PVR changes, I've formulated which should correspond reality.

NORTH TYNESIDE PVR CHANGES
Walkergate
12: remains 12, but made of 10 ADL E400 and 2 ADL E400H
18: 4 to 3
39/40: 23 to 21
62/63: 7 to 6
15/15A: withdrawn, 4 to 0

Total: 108 to 99
PVR: 108 to 99 (decrease of 8)

Slatyford
6/7/8: 7 to 8
32/32A: 7 to 6 
X47: 5 to 4
62/63: 14 to 16
72: 2 to 1
X82: 3 to 2 
100: 5 to 4, but made up of 3 E300 and 1 ALX300
Kinetics remain 'spare'

Total: 98 to 92
PVR: 87 to 82 (decrease of 5)


22012 Disposal to Reserve as well. Still in service.