Hi Glen. E200MMC numbers 26231 to 26254 entered service in Thanet (Margate/Ramsgate)  this week under the 'Loop' brand. Look on Facebook group Stagecoach uk enthusiasts. I have seen s

Some pictures on there. Good Luck.

Registration numbers as follows:  YW19 VNA to VNH, VNJ to VNP, VNR to VNV, VNX to VNZ and YW19VPA. Hope this helps..

(04 Jul 2019, 7:53 pm)glen1234 wrote I saw stagecoach South East new enviro 200 MMCs single deckers they are smart . Are the new enviro 200 mmcs single deckers bigger than the enviro 300 whats on 36 service now.

Seat capacity is more in these new Enviro 200 MMCs - at 43 (41 in the Enviro 300).

Length wise they are the same at 11.8m.

(05 Jul 2019, 8:40 am)RBZ 5459 wrote

Seat capacity is more in these new Enviro 200 MMCs - at 43 (41 in the Enviro 300).

Length wise they are the same at 11.8m.

Why did they remove the 300 model and combine it with the 200?

In my mind, the longer versions are still the 300 and I've made the mistake of calling them that on here a few times.

It's like getting rid of the 400 and calling that a 200 too.

The various numbers gave the different types and identity.

(05 Jul 2019, 10:29 am)Andreos1 wrote

Why did they remove the 300 model and combine it with the 200?

In my mind, the longer versions are still the 300 and I've made the mistake of calling them that on here a few times.

It's like getting rid of the 400 and calling that a 200 too.

The various numbers gave the different types and identity.

There is a photo on Facebook of Dennis Trident/ALX300 18125 (YN04 KGK) at Walkergate Depot.

Apparently it is here for spare parts for the Open Top tridents.

(05 Jul 2019, 2:30 pm)AIG20 wrote

There is a photo on Facebook of Dennis Trident/ALX300 18125 (YN04 KGK) at Walkergate Depot.

Apparently it is here for spare parts for the Open Top tridents.

Ironic given its substantially newer than the tat that is on there

ALX300,do you not mean ALX400

(05 Jul 2019, 2:30 pm)AIG20 wrote

There is a photo on Facebook of Dennis Trident/ALX300 18125 (YN04 KGK) at Walkergate Depot.

Apparently it is here for spare parts for the Open Top tridents.

Seems a waste of a bus!

(06 Jul 2019, 6:36 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote

Seems a waste of a bus!

Well it is Stagecoach after all

Can anyone remember Tyne and Wear omnibus services 31 and 32 city centre to Doxford. I’m trying to find there routes they took. Always the route of the 31 before it got axed serving the hospital rather than ashbrooke

(10 Jul 2019, 9:43 pm)Acky81 wrote

Can anyone remember Tyne and Wear omnibus services 31 and 32 city centre to Doxford. I’m trying to find there routes they took. Always the route of the 31 before it got axed serving the hospital rather than ashbrooke

Don’t think they were TWOC. The 32 came first as a Sunday
only Sunderland Busways service, then operated daily on a revised route.  Then 31 was introduced with 31 & 32 both being
jointly operated by Busways and Northern. 
This was all before Busways took over TWOC.  The 32 was withdrawn and the 31 later became
a Favourite service.  The revised route
via Royal Hospital was in May 2001, the last change before the service was
killed off entirely.

(10 Jul 2019, 10:28 pm)Acky81 wrote Don’t recall northern running these any pics? 31 was deffo twoc prior to favourite. What was the full routes

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(11 Jul 2019, 5:18 am)cbma06 wrote All Busways minibus services became Tyne and Wear omnibus company when there were bought out, originally before the 32 came onto the scene the 31 was axed between Sunderland and Seaburn Camp section and replaced by new service 17 which lasted quite awhile until stagecoach axed all minibus operations when there streamlined there services


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It was the 32 that went to Seaburn (Sundays only) before the 31 came on
the scene, I believe?  The 31 first appeared as that joint service in
1988 whereas the 32 started back in 1987.  When the 32 went daily, the
section north of the river was withdrawn though the 17 had already been
in operation for some months before that.  The 17 and 25 seem to have
swapped terminals back and forth at the north end too, switching between
South Bents and Seaburn between them. 

17 started 23-03-87 (CBS to Seaburn)

31 started 11-04-88

32 started 18-07-87 (Sundays, Doxford Park - Seaburn) then 11-12-87 (Doxford Park - CBS)

Interestingly I found reference
to a Service 8 which was to operate
















from Central Bus Station to Ferryboat Lane via Hylton Castle Road but appears to have only lasted a metter of weeks in the summer of 1988 - does anyone recall this one?

(11 Jul 2019, 10:06 am)stagecoachbusdepot wrote

It was the 32 that went to Seaburn (Sundays only) before the 31 came on
the scene, I believe?  The 31 first appeared as that joint service in
1988 whereas the 32 started back in 1987.  When the 32 went daily, the
section north of the river was withdrawn though the 17 had already been
in operation for some months before that.  The 17 and 25 seem to have
swapped terminals back and forth at the north end too, switching between
South Bents and Seaburn between them. 

17 started 23-03-87 (CBS to Seaburn)

31 started 11-04-88

32 started 18-07-87 (Sundays, Doxford Park - Seaburn) then 11-12-87 (Doxford Park - CBS)

Interestingly I found reference
to a Service 8 which was to operate
















from Central Bus Station to Ferryboat Lane via Hylton Castle Road but appears to have only lasted a metter of weeks in the summer of 1988 - does anyone recall this one?

(11 Jul 2019, 10:54 am)cbma06 wrote It was too early this morning for me [emoji1787], yea the 32, service 17 came about from service 17A/17B which started up from Wearside (Redby)circular service .


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I've often wondered how they chose the service numbers beyond those that were direct changes from 102 ->2 etc.  So for example, why make a 32 but no 30, or 31 at the time.  And why the 9 was never used until the South Hylton service in Stagecoach days etc.

Busways initially operated a 17 that became 17A/17B then back to 17.  The good old days with a proper network of services instead of a few high frequency routes and little else.

(11 Jul 2019, 11:05 am)stagecoachbusdepot wrote

I've often wondered how they chose the service numbers beyond those that were direct changes from 102 ->2 etc.  So for example, why make a 32 but no 30, or 31 at the time.  And why the 9 was never used until the South Hylton service in Stagecoach days etc.

Busways initially operated a 17 that became 17A/17B then back to 17.  The good old days with a proper network of services instead of a few high frequency routes and little else.

(11 Jul 2019, 2:39 pm)glen1234 wrote Stagecoach in Hull are starting get new enviro 200MMCs so is Stockton in line for new enviro MMCs soon.

As said by others they will still ready for September/October time.

(11 Jul 2019, 3:23 pm)cbma06 wrote Can you remember service 26 from town end farm areas to Seaburn only used to run Sundays only on the summer months and during one year Busways put on a service 26 from Sunderland to Seaburn camp then the summer Sunday service 26 got renumbered to a 36


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Anyone got pics of the 31 and 32 services

In northern twoc and busways livery.

I remember the 17 and 25 been extended to Doxford park.

The 26 went to the forge didn’t it

(14 Jul 2019, 9:11 pm)Acky81 wrote

Anyone got pics of the 31 and 32 services

In northern twoc and busways livery.

I remember the 17 and 25 been extended to Doxford park.

The 26 went to the forge didn’t it

That was a much later incarnation - there were three different 26's operated by Sunderland Busways at different times.  The one from St Peters to The Forge was the last of the three and started in August 1994.