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8297 at Deptford - Acky81 - 14 Oct 2021

When did 8297 become a deptford vehicle or is this temporary from Chester. I noticed it on the 2A today but still has Durham advertising on the side


RE: Fleet Changes - Michael - 14 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 8:22 pm)Acky81 wrote When did 8297 become a deptford vehicle or is this temporary from Chester. I noticed it on the 2A today but still has Durham advertising on the side

Its been at Deptford since the 6.10.21 (according to bustimes.org) looks to be a permanent transfer.


RE: Fleet Changes - JP6004 - 14 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 8:40 pm)Michael wrote Its been at Deptford since the 6.11.21 (according to bustimes.org) looks to be a permanent transfer.
Are we in November already?


RE: Fleet Changes - Acky81 - 14 Oct 2021

Seems odd just that one been sent over. I can’t stand all these clapped out versas. Gone from having decent vehicles to breakdowns day after day after day


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 14 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 8:53 pm)Acky81 wrote Seems odd just that one been sent over. I can’t stand all these clapped out versas. Gone from having decent vehicles to breakdowns day after day after day
2 broke down today.


RE: Fleet Changes - Acky81 - 14 Oct 2021

Theres a surprise 2 more breakdowns. All we are getting is Newcastle cast offs


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 14 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 10:50 pm)Acky81 wrote Theres a surprise 2 more breakdowns. All we are getting is Newcastle cast offs
There was 2 or 3 mercedes broke down aswell


RE: Fleet Changes - Acky81 - 14 Oct 2021

These should of left go north east a while ago


RE: Fleet Changes - Train8261 - 15 Oct 2021

What would be a better bus replacement for these


RE: Fleet Changes - Michael - 15 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 8:44 pm)JP6004 wrote Are we in November already?

Ye Wink


RE: Fleet Changes - ian foster - 15 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 10:57 pm)Acky81 wrote These should of left go north east a while ago
All mercs except those on the connections 4 should have been withdrawn last year. Unfortunately  due to pandemic any proposals for new buses  was cancelled with the exception of the next batch of electric buses. Also with the proposed Newcastle clean air zone (now delayed till next year) any euro 6 emission bus was required for any service entering Newcastle so this meant Sunderland and County Durham areas had to lose out because of uncertainty over the future of bus travel. I would hope people are starting to  travel once more and once income starts to recover we will start once again to see investment in new buses hopefully many of them going to Sunderland and County Durham.


RE: Fleet Changes - Dan - 15 Oct 2021

(14 Oct 2021, 8:22 pm)Acky81 wrote When did 8297 become a deptford vehicle or is this temporary from Chester. I noticed it on the 2A today but still has Durham advertising on the side

(14 Oct 2021, 8:40 pm)Michael wrote Its been at Deptford since the 6.10.21 (according to bustimes.org) looks to be a permanent transfer.

It's only on temporary loan.


RE: Fleet Changes - Dan - 15 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 10:42 am)ian foster wrote All mercs except those on the connections 4 should have been withdrawn last year. Unfortunately  due to pandemic any proposals for new buses  was cancelled with the exception of the next batch of electric buses. Also with the proposed Newcastle clean air zone (now delayed till next year) any euro 6 emission bus was required for any service entering Newcastle so this meant Sunderland and County Durham areas had to lose out because of uncertainty over the future of bus travel. I would hope people are starting to  travel once more and once income starts to recover we will start once again to see investment in new buses hopefully many of them going to Sunderland and County Durham.

It was never intended for 'all' Citaros to be withdrawn last year, just some of them. That still remains to be the case once repaints and re-allocations are completed, with the eldest Citaros, 5275 - 5283, 5337/38 and 5481 - 5487, all planned for withdrawal. In addition to all those that went to Go North West last year, some of these have already been withdrawn:
  • 5275 (fire damage)
  • 5277 
  • 5280
  • 5283
  • 5337
  • 5338 (fire damage)
  • 5481 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5482 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5483 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5485 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5487 (scrap/spare parts donor)

Buses are built and depreciated over a period of 12-15 years. The remaining Citaros are only 13 years old, therefore have an expected life of at least two years yet. The 07-plates are actually being withdrawn a year early (when new, they'd have expected to be withdrawn in 2022).


RE: Fleet Changes - peter - 15 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 10:51 am)Dan wrote It was never intended for 'all' Citaros to be withdrawn last year, just some of them. That still remains to be the case once repaints and re-allocations are completed, with the eldest Citaros, 5275 - 5283, 5337/38 and 5481 - 5487, all planned for withdrawal. In addition to all those that went to Go North West last year, some of these have already been withdrawn:
  • 5275 (fire damage)
  • 5277 
  • 5280
  • 5283
  • 5337
  • 5338 (fire damage)
  • 5481 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5482 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5483 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5485 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5487 (scrap/spare parts donor)

Buses are built and depreciated over a period of 12-15 years. The remaining Citaros are only 13 years old, therefore have an expected life of at least two years yet. The 07-plates are actually being withdrawn a year early (when new, they'd have expected to be withdrawn in 2022).

Would you be able to share a similar list for which Omnicities have been withdrawn and which are to be withdrawn? As a number of them haven't operated for quite a while according to Bustimes it would be nice to get a little fleet update there is possible!


RE: Fleet Changes - Dan - 15 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)peter wrote Would you be able to share a similar list for which Omnicities have been withdrawn and which are to be withdrawn? As a number of them haven't operated for quite a while according to Bustimes it would be nice to get a little fleet update there is possible!

I've been on holiday for the past two weeks, so there'll probably be more now, but the list back then was:
  • 5239 (scrap)
  • 5241
  • 5249
  • 5250
  • 5251 (scrap)
  • 5263
  • 5266 (scrap)
  • 5267
  • 5269
  • 5270
  • 5271 (earmarked for preservation)

The final cruise ship for the season docked on 3 October, so 5240/42/53 should all now be withdrawn too (as they were only being used on cruise ship shuttles).

5272 and 5274 are currently float/reserve and are in use at present at Deptford, to cover for buses off service for the air con modifications (Solos, Versas and Citaros) referenced here. They have been used at Riverside and Chester-le-Street similarly too. 5273, after a brief stint at Washington, is at Riverside for the same purpose, while Riverside's own allocation of Scania OmniCity (5252, 5264, 5268) are due for imminent withdrawal with 5464 - 5469 all having transferred into Riverside in recent weeks.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - Storx - 15 Oct 2021

There's nothing factual behind this but it wouldn't surprise me if 8294 - 8306 get withdrawn soon especially being the Euro 4 singles left. There's no use for them unless I'm missing something, be very surprised if they end up getting Euro 6 mods (unless they've been done) and there's no route that needs them assuming that 8319 - 8328 or Streetlites do the 25/28/28A with 8307 - 8309 acting on 34 while spares for the rest.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - V514DFT - 15 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 5:28 pm)Storx wrote There's nothing factual behind this but it wouldn't surprise me if 8294 - 8306 get withdrawn soon especially being the Euro 4 singles left. There's no use for them unless I'm missing something, be very surprised if they end up getting Euro 6 mods (unless they've been done) and there's no route that needs them assuming that 8319 - 8328 or Streetlites do the 25/28/28A with 8307 - 8309 acting on 34 while spares for the rest.
Except 8303 which went up in smoke,must be about 4 years ago now?


RE: 8297 at Deptford - Michael - 16 Oct 2021

Will the official GNE enthusiast fleet page be updated soon?


RE: Fleet Changes - Malarkey - 16 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 10:51 am)Dan wrote It was never intended for 'all' Citaros to be withdrawn last year, just some of them. That still remains to be the case once repaints and re-allocations are completed, with the eldest Citaros, 5275 - 5283, 5337/38 and 5481 - 5487, all planned for withdrawal. In addition to all those that went to Go North West last year, some of these have already been withdrawn:
  • 5275 (fire damage)
  • 5277 
  • 5280
  • 5283
  • 5337
  • 5338 (fire damage)
  • 5481 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5482 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5483 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5485 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5487 (scrap/spare parts donor)

Buses are built and depreciated over a period of 12-15 years. The remaining Citaros are only 13 years old, therefore have an expected life of at least two years yet. The 07-plates are actually being withdrawn a year early (when new, they'd have expected to be withdrawn in 2022).

Hopefully someone will take one of 07 Plates that were new for the then "Red Arrows" and preserve it.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - Rapidsnap - 16 Oct 2021

Give the Citaro track record, they may get their fingers burned.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - Michael - 17 Oct 2021

Have GNE had any buyers for the Citaro's/Omnicities yet?

Edit:


Done some working out (probs wrong) but after withdrawals they'll be:


40 Citaro’s in service - Deptford and Washington
14 Omnicities left in service - all at Washington


RE: 8297 at Deptford - JP6004 - 17 Oct 2021

(17 Oct 2021, 10:38 am)Michael wrote Have GNE had any buyers for the Citaro's/Omnicities yet?

Edit:


Done some working out (probs wrong) but after withdrawals they'll be:


40 Citaro’s in service - Deptford and Washington
14 Omnicities left in service - all at Washington
Probably would of been only the 10 and 63 plate citaros left it covid hadn't happened.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - peter - 18 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 5:28 pm)Storx wrote There's nothing factual behind this but it wouldn't surprise me if 8294 - 8306 get withdrawn soon especially being the Euro 4 singles left. There's no use for them unless I'm missing something, be very surprised if they end up getting Euro 6 mods (unless they've been done) and there's no route that needs them assuming that 8319 - 8328 or Streetlites do the 25/28/28A with 8307 - 8309 acting on 34 while spares for the rest.
I could see this happening as there's no obvious use for them. With 8329-8338 on the 2/2A then 8319-8328 for the 25/28/28A and 8307-8309 as spares like you say. Then perhaps 8310-8315 remain at Riverside for the 29 and 67/69 and 8316-8318 at Chester-le-Street for the 34. Could even bring back a brand for the 34 as they would only be allocated to that service. That would make sure there's definitely a spare for the 25/28/28A and can't think what other services would need the Versa's at Riverside. That would give Chester 16 compared to the current 18 allocated - if all 18 needed then a couple extra Streetlites could be sourced I'm sure.


RE: Fleet Changes - peter - 22 Oct 2021

(15 Oct 2021, 10:51 am)Dan wrote It was never intended for 'all' Citaros to be withdrawn last year, just some of them. That still remains to be the case once repaints and re-allocations are completed, with the eldest Citaros, 5275 - 5283, 5337/38 and 5481 - 5487, all planned for withdrawal. In addition to all those that went to Go North West last year, some of these have already been withdrawn:
  • 5275 (fire damage)
  • 5277 
  • 5280
  • 5283
  • 5337
  • 5338 (fire damage)
  • 5481 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5482 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5483 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5485 (scrap/spare parts donor)
  • 5487 (scrap/spare parts donor)

Buses are built and depreciated over a period of 12-15 years. The remaining Citaros are only 13 years old, therefore have an expected life of at least two years yet. The 07-plates are actually being withdrawn a year early (when new, they'd have expected to be withdrawn in 2022).

Have 5276/5278 been withdrawn now? As neither have been out since October 9th according to BusTimes. Also have 6126/7/9 been withdrawn? I know it was said the 03-reg Omnidekka's were going to be leaving but as these didn't go with the original batch I wasn't sure.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - Wybus - 22 Oct 2021

6126/7/29 get used on the Scholars 850 service and this doesn't track on BusTimes


RE: Fleet Changes - ian foster - 24 Oct 2021

(22 Oct 2021, 10:39 am)peter wrote Have 5276/5278 been withdrawn now? As neither have been out since October 9th according to BusTimes. Also have 6126/7/9 been withdrawn? I know it was said the 03-reg Omnidekka's were going to be leaving but as these didn't go with the original batch I wasn't sure.
6126/7/9 all withdrawn. 5276/8 still in service at riverside. I suggest having a look on the website Quack77 to keep up to date not just with go north east but with most other bus operators as well.


8297 at Deptford - Dan - 24 Oct 2021

(24 Oct 2021, 1:43 pm)ian foster wrote 6126/7/9 all withdrawn. 5276/8 still in service at riverside. I suggest having a look on the website Quack77 to keep up to date not just with go north east but with most other bus operators as well.


If that’s the information on Quack77, then it’s not to be trusted.

6126/27/29 remain in service at Riverside on a private scholars contract, with 3995 as a spare. Indeed 6126 spent some time on service 57 yesterday.

5276/78 were both withdrawn a couple of weeks ago.


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RE: 8297 at Deptford - ian foster - 25 Oct 2021

(24 Oct 2021, 3:06 pm)Dan wrote If that’s the information on Quack77, then it’s not to be trusted.

6126/27/29 remain in service at Riverside on a private scholars contract, with 3995 as a spare. Indeed 6126 spent some time on service 57 yesterday.

5276/78 were both withdrawn a couple of weeks ago.


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Quack 77 site updated this morning with the above information. The site receives updates most days.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - Keeiajs - 25 Oct 2021

(25 Oct 2021, 10:58 am)ian foster wrote Quack 77 site updated this morning with the above information. The site receives updates most days.
But it was wrong, untill corrected.


RE: 8297 at Deptford - ian foster - 26 Oct 2021

(25 Oct 2021, 11:38 am)Keeiajs wrote But it was wrong, untill corrected.
Yes I will admit not everything on this website as accurate, however at the moment  it our only source of regular updates since the go north east website fleet lists have not been updated since 2nd May. I would also mention how many times in the past have vehicles been listed as withdrawn but then still used then are re-instated. Had a look on Quack77 again today and it is now showing 5480 in Voyager livery. Is this true,any pictures, also whats the situation with other re paints.