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Go North East - Second-hand vehicle acquisitions - Rapidsnap - 14 Jul 2022
It seems Go North East seem to be acquring Double Deckers from various sources. Here is a list of what I have so far....
From Go North West (New to First Manchester)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 1
6184 - MX07BRV
6185 - MX07BRZ
From East Yorkshire (New to Finglands)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini
6??? - YX08FWE
6??? - YX08FWF
6??? - YX08FWG
6??? - YX08FWH
From Go-Ahead London
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 2
6225 - LX59DDJ
6226 - LX60DXM
6227 - LX60DXO
6228 - LX60DXP
6229 - LX60DXR
6230 - LX60DXS
6231 - LX60DXT
ADL Enviro 400
6944 - LX57CHZ
6945 - LX57CJE
6946 - LX57CKF
6947 - LX57CKG
6948 - LX57CLY
6949 - LX08EBU
6950 - LX08EBV
6951 - LX08EBZ
6952 - LX08ECA
6953 - LX08ECC
There seems to be plenty of gaps with more to come it seems.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Retro Nero - 14 Jul 2022
Ooh ... Interesting!
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - wibblejunior - 14 Jul 2022
In terms of gaps we'd have:
6183
6186-6224
6232...
6954...
This looks very interesting...
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Rapidsnap - 14 Jul 2022
Possible the EYMS ones could be 6221-6224.
I know GNW are withdrawing or have withdrawn a number of B9TLs.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Unber43 - 14 Jul 2022
(14 Jul 2022, 9:55 pm)Rapidsnap wrote It seems Go North East seem to be acquring Double Deckers from various sources. Here is a list of what I have so far....I would say there is atleast 30-40 more to go.
From Go North West (New to First Manchester)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 1
6184 - MX07BRV
6185 - MX07BRZ
From East Yorkshire (New to Finglands)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini
6??? - YX08FWE
6??? - YX08FWF
6??? - YX08FWG
6??? - YX08FWH
From Go-Ahead London
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 2
6225 - LX59DDJ
6226 - LX60DXM
6227 - LX60DXO
6228 - LX60DXP
6229 - LX60DXR
6230 - LX60DXS
6231 - LX60DXT
ADL Enviro 400
6944 - LX57CHZ
6945 - LX57CJE
6946 - LX57CKF
6947 - LX57CKG
6948 - LX57CLY
6949 - LX08EBU
6950 - LX08EBV
6951 - LX08EBZ
6952 - LX08ECA
6953 - LX08ECC
There seems to be plenty of gaps with more to come it seems.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Michael - 15 Jul 2022
Quite alot of buses arriving by the looks of it.... are they for Metro replacement/School services and will they replace all of the Omnidekka's and Ex London Duel door?
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Unber43 - 15 Jul 2022
It will be interesting about where these 60 odd vehciles will go to, I'd imagine Riverside/Consett & Deptford will be where most are based, with Washington presumably being rammed due to the increase in servcies
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - KingSlayerRBLX - 15 Jul 2022
(14 Jul 2022, 9:55 pm)Rapidsnap wrote It seems Go North East seem to be acquring Double Deckers from various sources. Here is a list of what I have so far....Oh GNW Geminis, didn’t know about them coming to the fleet. Interesting
From Go North West (New to First Manchester)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 1
6184 - MX07BRV
6185 - MX07BRZ
From East Yorkshire (New to Finglands)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini
6??? - YX08FWE
6??? - YX08FWF
6??? - YX08FWG
6??? - YX08FWH
From Go-Ahead London
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 2
6225 - LX59DDJ
6226 - LX60DXM
6227 - LX60DXO
6228 - LX60DXP
6229 - LX60DXR
6230 - LX60DXS
6231 - LX60DXT
ADL Enviro 400
6944 - LX57CHZ
6945 - LX57CJE
6946 - LX57CKF
6947 - LX57CKG
6948 - LX57CLY
6949 - LX08EBU
6950 - LX08EBV
6951 - LX08EBZ
6952 - LX08ECA
6953 - LX08ECC
There seems to be plenty of gaps with more to come it seems.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Retro Nero - 17 Jul 2022
Is there any more news on gnw & East Yorkshire Gemini's
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - V514DFT - 17 Jul 2022
I know it sounds daft,but could one be the new 6145
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - KingSlayerRBLX - 17 Jul 2022
(17 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm)V514DFT wrote I know it sounds daft,but could one be the new 61456145 was the Orange DFDS Dekka that went up in flames
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - V514DFT - 22 Jul 2022
(17 Jul 2022, 7:48 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote 6145 was the Orange DFDS Dekka that went up in flamesAnd if iyou read what i said again, i said the NEW 6145
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - wibblejunior - 22 Jul 2022
As far as I know Go North East generally don't reuse fleet numbers (with 6134/5 being some of the few exceptions)
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Rapidsnap - 22 Jul 2022
To be honest I think due to Covid, there hasn't been a need for a fourth DFDS decker since 6145 decided to go out in a blaze of glory. But quite possible some of these second hand vehicles coming maybe replacements for the DFDS Omnidekkas, those 4 ex EYMS B9TLs kind of match the numbers up nicely if they decided to go back to having for vehicles for DFDS (maybe the contract states that they have to have 4 buses painted).
At one point they had 10 buses dedicated to ferry work consisiting of.....
Leyland Atlantean / ECW - 3538/3540
Leyland Olympian / ECW - 3674 / 3744
Volvo Olympian / N-C Palatine 2 - 3832 / 3833
Dennis Trident / ELC Lolyne - 3866 / 3867
Dennis Trident / Plaxton President - 3890 / 3891
All except the Atlanteans were in the white and blue DFDS livery. The Atlanteans were in Coastline Livery with writing above the lower deck windows advertising that they were ferry shuttle buses.
It then dropped to 6 being 3832/3833, 3866/3867, 3890/3891.
Then the DFDS went for a refresh where it dropped to 4 branded vehicles being 3866/3867 and 3890/3891.
The number of branded vehicles did increase during the swap over between Tridents and the allocation of Omnidekkas 6144/6145/6147/6148. Though the Tridents weren't all replaced at the same time with 3866/3867 coming off first, and 3890/3891 a few months later.
Then it dropped to the current 3 with the demise of 6145.
As for GNE reusing fleetnumbers, it usually tends to be fleetnumbers in the 9xxx series that have been reused but I think they may have been on or two odd exceptions over the years, as per your example, though I don't think 3995/6 actually saw use with their originally allocated numbers. Mind plenty of vehicles have been renumbered over the years.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - OrangeArrow49 - 23 Jul 2022
(22 Jul 2022, 11:26 pm)Rapidsnap wrote To be honest I think due to Covid, there hasn't been a need for a fourth DFDS decker since 6145 decided to go out in a blaze of glory. But quite possible some of these second hand vehicles coming maybe replacements for the DFDS Omnidekkas, those 4 ex EYMS B9TLs kind of match the numbers up nicely if they decided to go back to having for vehicles for DFDS (maybe the contract states that they have to have 4 buses painted).
At one point they had 10 buses dedicated to ferry work consisiting of.....
Leyland Atlantean / ECW - 3538/3540
Leyland Olympian / ECW - 3674 / 3744
Volvo Olympian / N-C Palatine 2 - 3832 / 3833
Dennis Trident / ELC Lolyne - 3866 / 3867
Dennis Trident / Plaxton President - 3890 / 3891
All except the Atlanteans were in the white and blue DFDS livery. The Atlanteans were in Coastline Livery with writing above the lower deck windows advertising that they were ferry shuttle buses.
It then dropped to 6 being 3832/3833, 3866/3867, 3890/3891.
Then the DFDS went for a refresh where it dropped to 4 branded vehicles being 3866/3867 and 3890/3891.
The number of branded vehicles did increase during the swap over between Tridents and the allocation of Omnidekkas 6144/6145/6147/6148. Though the Tridents weren't all replaced at the same time with 3866/3867 coming off first, and 3890/3891 a few months later.
Then it dropped to the current 3 with the demise of 6145.
As for GNE reusing fleetnumbers, it usually tends to be fleetnumbers in the 9xxx series that have been reused but I think they may have been on or two odd exceptions over the years, as per your example, though I don't think 3995/6 actually saw use with their originally allocated numbers. Mind plenty of vehicles have been renumbered over the years.
Has GNE always had the contract to operate the DFDS 327 service?
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - omnicity4659 - 23 Jul 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 12:00 am)OrangeArrow49 wrote Has GNE always had the contract to operate the DFDS 327 service?
Since before it was even called GNE if I recall correctly. Northern operated it, and possibly TWPTE before then.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Retro Nero - 23 Jul 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 12:00 am)OrangeArrow49 wrote Has GNE always had the contract to operate the DFDS 327 service?There is a photo somewhere of a lineup of Northern general buses at the DFDS quay taken late 60s early 70s
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - durhambusman - 23 Jul 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 12:19 am)omnicity4659 wrote Since before it was even called GNE if I recall correctly. Northern operated it, and possibly TWPTE before then.Didn't twpte have those extra long Bristol VR for that service?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/adogriff/5082316118
I also seem to recall MVK501R had PTE lively with blue stripes through which I thought was for this service?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/3274464181/in/photolist-2jegoNf-eibMDs-5Zmu7Z-bDwRKR-2jg4ote-Ru1umc-FAr73o-bViebb
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - missedbus - 23 Jul 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 6:11 am)durhambusman wrote Didn't twpte have those extra long Bristol VR for that service?I think MVK500-5R all did, and they were staffed by Northern drivers and kept at Percy Main.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/adogriff/5082316118
I also seem to recall MVK501R had PTE lively with blue stripes through which I thought was for this service?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/3274464181/in/photolist-2jegoNf-eibMDs-5Zmu7Z-bDwRKR-2jg4ote-Ru1umc-FAr73o-bViebb
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Andreos1 - 23 Jul 2022
(22 Jul 2022, 11:26 pm)Rapidsnap wrote To be honest I think due to Covid, there hasn't been a need for a fourth DFDS decker since 6145 decided to go out in a blaze of glory. But quite possible some of these second hand vehicles coming maybe replacements for the DFDS Omnidekkas, those 4 ex EYMS B9TLs kind of match the numbers up nicely if they decided to go back to having for vehicles for DFDS (maybe the contract states that they have to have 4 buses painted).There were more ferries back then too.
At one point they had 10 buses dedicated to ferry work consisiting of.....
Leyland Atlantean / ECW - 3538/3540
Leyland Olympian / ECW - 3674 / 3744
Volvo Olympian / N-C Palatine 2 - 3832 / 3833
Dennis Trident / ELC Lolyne - 3866 / 3867
Dennis Trident / Plaxton President - 3890 / 3891
All except the Atlanteans were in the white and blue DFDS livery. The Atlanteans were in Coastline Livery with writing above the lower deck windows advertising that they were ferry shuttle buses.
It then dropped to 6 being 3832/3833, 3866/3867, 3890/3891.
Then the DFDS went for a refresh where it dropped to 4 branded vehicles being 3866/3867 and 3890/3891.
The number of branded vehicles did increase during the swap over between Tridents and the allocation of Omnidekkas 6144/6145/6147/6148. Though the Tridents weren't all replaced at the same time with 3866/3867 coming off first, and 3890/3891 a few months later.
Then it dropped to the current 3 with the demise of 6145.
As for GNE reusing fleetnumbers, it usually tends to be fleetnumbers in the 9xxx series that have been reused but I think they may have been on or two odd exceptions over the years, as per your example, though I don't think 3995/6 actually saw use with their originally allocated numbers. Mind plenty of vehicles have been renumbered over the years.
Granted the routes changed nearly as often as a GNE service in the North Sunderland Estates, but there were regular ferries to Norway (various Norwegian companies operated this one until DFDS ended up with it.), Sweden, Denmark and Germany during the 70s and 80s.
Appreciate they weren't all daily, but assuming two were docked at one time...
Even in to the 2000's, there was Sweden, Norway and Holland.
Not sure if they still do, but I know there were Dutch travel agents working to sell tickets for Newcastle and Sunderland games.
Norwegian operators organised trips to the Metrocentre and Newcastle too.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Ambassador - 23 Jul 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 8:11 am)Andreos1 wrote There were more ferries back then too.
Granted the routes changed nearly as often as a GNE service in the North Sunderland Estates, but there were regular ferries to Norway (various Norwegian companies operated this one until DFDS ended up with it.), Sweden, Denmark and Germany during the 70s and 80s.
Appreciate they weren't all daily, but assuming two were docked at one time...
Even in to the 2000's, there was Sweden, Norway and Holland.
Not sure if they still do, but I know there were Dutch travel agents working to sell tickets for Newcastle and Sunderland games.
Norwegian operators organised trips to the Metrocentre and Newcastle too.
pre covid you did get charter flights into Newcastle from the Faroes, Denmark and Sweden, not sure if they’ll be back this year
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - ian foster - 23 Jul 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 6:30 am)missedbus wrote I think MVK500-5R all did, and they were staffed by Northern drivers and kept at Percy Main.you also forgot about 3228/3230/3232/3235 ( NCN104/106/108/111L) as well.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Rapidsnap - 23 Jul 2022
IIRC the NCN-L buses were converted around the mid 80s to replace the MVK-Rs due to the upcoming deregulation. They NCN-L were replaced by various MCW bodied Leyland Atlanteans around 1992 before they were replaced by ECW Atlanteans 3538/3540, then around 1999 the fleet started to be boosted with vehicles in full DFDS colours.
As mentioned ex Ribble Bristol VRLs were used, owned by the PTE but staffed by Northern drivers.
Examples of vehicles below....
Bristol VRL / ECW - OCK67K - https://www.flickr.com/photos/30794964@N03/8539043756 - Photo by John Evans
Leyland Atlantean / Alexander - MVK505R & MVK500R - https://www.flickr.com/photos/131962719@N04/18314175921 - Photo by Ken Weaver
Leyland Atlantean / ECW - NCN104L (in the yellow and white Northern version of livery) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/busfreakbrian/18178072816 - Photo by Brian H
Leyland Atlantean / ECW - NCN111L (in the red and white Go-Ahead Northern version of the livery) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/henry_pattison/49887227551
Leyland Atlantean / MCW - VFT200T (in the red and white Go-Ahead Northern version of the livery with the all white GAN fleetname) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nedbasher/5694022761 - Photo by Ned Basher
Leyland Atlantean / MCW - VFT185T (in Coastline livery no branding think the ferry companies were in the middle of takeovers) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/solenteer/52094307523 - Photo by Solenteer
Leyland Atlantean / ECW - MBR438T (Coastline livery with Go Coastline Fleetnames and minimal branding, they did originally have Coastline fleetnames) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/thetransportnetwork/52056152913 - Photo by Ernie Robson
Then from as mentioned in 1999/2000 the livery changed to one that was basically a giant advert for DFDS Seaways which to be fair suited the buses. (All photos by me)
Leyland Olympian / ECW - B744GCN - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/13804461055
Volvo Olympian / N-C Palatine 2 - S832OFT - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/51930548033
Dennis Trident / ELC Lolyne - W177SCU - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/40503745722
Dennis Trident / Plaxton President - NK51UCT & NK51UCU - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/51150636104 (This was when some buses went to Metrocentre for the shoppers)
The two tone Blue and White livery was phased out on the low floor fleet (the Volvo Olympian retained it until they became Yellow Bus / Red Spare) for a more advertisment based liveries which I shall use W866PNL as an example showing the different versions it carried, each vehicle has a unique advert to it I think.
The first one was terrible one which basically covered up all the windows on the side as shown here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/38736088690
The Second Version was a vast improved which allowed those towards the front of the bus to see out of the windows clearly - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/51149060761
Version three was similar to the second version but they added colour to the advert - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/51149286938
Then there is version 4 which meant each bus was white below the downstairs windows and a different colour top - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/25675454157
The Tridents were eventually all replaced with the Omnidekkas leading to Version 5 of the livery using the same base design as version 4 but with different advert graphics as shown by 6145 (524FUP) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/51174209678
Though I imagine many of the younger enthusiasts on here remember the last 3 versions at least.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Ambassador - 23 Jul 2022
Very much enjoyed reading that and reminiscing about the past (in a positive way) as I often do with your posts Gary!
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - V514DFT - 24 Jul 2022
I remember most from 1999 onwards
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Boggle - 24 Jul 2022
The branded MCW Atlantans in the 1990s were 3685 and 3700. I remember being desperate to ride on them when I was younger but they never did anything else after being branded.
They eventually transferred to OK at Team Valley when the route was briefly operated from there. OK did my scholars bus at the time which meant I did eventually get to ride on both on my way to school.
They both wore the livery in the photo you shared of 3700, then standard Coastline livery and finally standard OK Travel livery.
When OK Tavel ran it, all sorts of deckers covered the extra runs on the 327. This photo shows one of the weirdest. Check out the caption.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/22342302@N05/2190470335/in/photolist-2nyzg8R-ox7ivE-euLQ5J-euHDE4-nzFBzy-4kyJvV
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Retro Nero - 25 Jul 2022
Any news or pics of any GNW, East Yorkshire Deckers or London Enviros or B9s
Go North West to the North East - KingSlayerRBLX - 02 Aug 2022
6192 Is the first Go North West Gemini have logos applied and fleet numbers. Seen below:
![[Image: 20220802125549_IMG_6724.JPG]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880434663338938408/1003993911339012106/20220802125549_IMG_6724.JPG)
Will be nice to see them in the 2019 livery. Orange Interior will match well!!
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - reymyster9 - 02 Aug 2022
(14 Jul 2022, 9:55 pm)Rapidsnap wrote It seems Go North East seem to be acquring Double Deckers from various sources. Here is a list of what I have so far....
From Go North West (New to First Manchester)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 1
6184 - MX07BRV
6185 - MX07BRZ
From East Yorkshire (New to Finglands)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini
6??? - YX08FWE
6??? - YX08FWF
6??? - YX08FWG
6??? - YX08FWH
From Go-Ahead London
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 2
6225 - LX59DDJ
6226 - LX60DXM
6227 - LX60DXO
6228 - LX60DXP
6229 - LX60DXR
6230 - LX60DXS
6231 - LX60DXT
ADL Enviro 400
6944 - LX57CHZ
6945 - LX57CJE
6946 - LX57CKF
6947 - LX57CKG
6948 - LX57CLY
6949 - LX08EBU
6950 - LX08EBV
6951 - LX08EBZ
6952 - LX08ECA
6953 - LX08ECC
There seems to be plenty of gaps with more to come it seems.
I would assume (given ex-GNW MX57HDZ and MX07BUV have turned up at GNE recently) that the gaps will be:
From Go North West (New to First Manchester)
Volvo B9TL - Wright Eclipse Gemini 1
6183 - MX07BRF
6184 - MX07BRV
6185 - MX07BRZ
6186 - MX07BSO
6187 - MX07BSU
6188 - MX07BSV
6189 - MX07BSY
6190 - MX07BSZ
6191 - MX07BUE
6192 - MX57HDZ (correct number, see above post)
6193 - MX07BUU
6194 - MX07BUV
However, this still leaves a significant gap of 6194-6225 so there must be more to come that hasn't been noted yet.
RE: Go North East - Secondhand Deckers 2022 - Malarkey - 02 Aug 2022
Go-Ahead London Central have a number of BYD Alexander Dennis Enviro 400EV's entering service on the 132 (North Greenwich - Bexleyheath Shopping Centre) which was allocated Volvo B9TL Wright Gemini 2's so i'd imagine we'll see more coming from them in the coming weeks.