(30 Jan 2023, 11:13 pm)N391OTY wrote Noticed 5396 and 6168 at Haymarket tonight on services 25 and 311. I'm guessing neither of these are CAZ-compliant, but could be wrong. Other than that, GNE seem to have observed the CAZ pretty well, apart from the Percy Main Omnidekkas on the service 327. Does that service have any dispensation given the luggage capacity requirements ?

I would mark then 9+ out of 10 for compliance today, considerably better than the shambolic performance of the other large operator in the area. No, not Arriva ...

(31 Jan 2023, 8:37 pm)V514DFT wrote I thought 5396 was a Streetlite

(31 Jan 2023, 5:47 am)Dan wrote GNE was fully CAZ compliant yesterday, including 5396 and 6168.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

(31 Jan 2023, 8:53 pm)Unber43 wrote Which Streetlite are being upgraded to Euro 6?

(31 Jan 2023, 8:43 pm)Dan wrote It is.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

(01 Feb 2023, 8:52 am)V514DFT wrote Is it not Euro 6?

(01 Feb 2023, 11:35 am)missedbus wrote The 15 plate batch are Euro 5 as built, however all of the Country Ranger ones at least come up as exempt on the Government CAZ checker, which leads me to believe that they have been registered as upgraded to Euro 6 with a CVRAS approved exhaust system.
The 56-plate Omnidekkas do not come up as exempt in the checker therefore I assume that they are subject to the 12 month local "retrofit or replacement" exemption. If the 18 electrics for the 21 arrive within 12 months, fleet cascades will presumably allow their withdrawal.

(01 Feb 2023, 11:52 am)Storx wrote Have a feeling it's more likely the Ex London WVL B9's that'll replace them.

(01 Feb 2023, 11:35 am)missedbus wrote The 15 plate batch are Euro 5 as built, however all of the Country Ranger ones at least come up as exempt on the Government CAZ checker, which leads me to believe that they have been registered as upgraded to Euro 6 with a CVRAS approved exhaust system.
The 56-plate Omnidekkas do not come up as exempt in the checker therefore I assume that they are subject to the 12 month local "retrofit or replacement" exemption. If the 18 electrics for the 21 arrive within 12 months, fleet cascades will presumably allow their withdrawal.

(01 Feb 2023, 12:59 pm)missedbus wrote Fair point, I briefly forgot about the fact that there are still 20+ of those awaiting transfer.

(01 Feb 2023, 5:28 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Any Vehicle made in 2015 or after that is Euro 5 is exempt, but any vehicle that is Euro 5 but older than 2015 is not exempt.
You'll see this with the 2015 Lites being exempt and the 2013 ones not being exempt. If that makes sense

(01 Feb 2023, 6:49 pm)Storx wrote The 15/16 plate Streetlite's 100% aren't Euro 6 without mods. It's why they got swapped with the 17 plates at Sunderland in the first place. The checker seems buggy as it says all the Solo's are Euro 6 aswell which they aren't.

(01 Feb 2023, 8:20 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Yes but the Streetlites are built between 2015 and 2022 same with the Solo SR's so if they were needed in Newcastle they would be fine. I Think GNE only has 1 Euro 6 SR which is 717.

(01 Feb 2023, 8:20 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Yes but the Streetlites are built between 2015 and 2022 same with the Solo SR's so if they were needed in Newcastle they would be fine. I Think GNE only has 1 Euro 6 SR which is 717.

(04 Feb 2023, 7:44 am)Unber43 wrote What about the 684/74

5377-79 are Euro 6(i think), but the Tynedale Links Solos aren't neither are 665/666/672

(05 Feb 2023, 7:52 am)NEbushopper wrote I was on MX61 AVL (1538) in Newcastle on the X14. I think the bus is Euro 5. Would Arriva gotten fined?

(05 Feb 2023, 5:26 pm)RobinHood wrote No, because it is Euro 6.

(07 Feb 2023, 7:27 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Are Stagecoach’s ALX300s exempt as they’re due to be replaced?
Saw two in the city today.

(09 Feb 2023, 2:10 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Yes, we can take them through with no penalty.

I drove one through on the first day of the CAZ to test the theory.

(09 Feb 2023, 7:56 pm)mb134 wrote Ridiculous that a company as large as Stagecoach are willingly sending multiple non-compliant vehicles through a clean air zone that they've had literally years to prepare for, and are getting away with it.

(09 Feb 2023, 8:21 pm)omnicity4659 wrote The use of ALX300s is temporary until their Euro 6 replacements and the new E400s arrive.

Whilst predictable, there's currently a shortage of serviceable vehicles which means that the ALX300s are still being sent out. On routes that need a decker.

Hopefully these new vehicles see off the worst of the 2008 E400s and 2011 E400Hs, as well as all the remaining ALX300s. I do doubt that they'll be enough - unless we're getting more secondhand stock - as the training fleet is also going to be renewed at some point in the near future.

(09 Feb 2023, 9:26 pm)mb134 wrote My initial post was more a statement on how badly the council have implemented the CAZ.

Allowing large companies extensions past the already pushed back start date is mental. Nearly as mental as it not having any impact on private cars.