(18 Apr 2023, 3:32 pm)Unber43 wrote Apparently the 8 is going back to every 30 mins on May 14th which is a Sunday

(18 Apr 2023, 7:20 pm)busmanT wrote 14th May is a Nexus change date for services in Sunderland - it doesn’t mean that the 8 will be every 30 minutes on a Sunday.

(18 Apr 2023, 8:21 pm)Unber43 wrote If the 238 still ran they could have interworked the 79 with it or just have the 238 run the whole way through

(19 Apr 2023, 10:21 am)R838PRG wrote The 79 is part of what the 238 was!

(18 Apr 2023, 3:32 pm)Unber43 wrote Apparently the 8 is going back to every 30 mins on May 14th which is a Sunday

(20 Apr 2023, 2:54 pm)Michael wrote Service changes from Sunday 14 May

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/service-changes-from-14-May

(20 Apr 2023, 3:05 pm)Andreos1 wrote The spin they put on this man... It's because of them that the Nexus services exist!

(20 Apr 2023, 3:15 pm)Adrian wrote I notice "Journeys will track in real-time on our mobile app and buses will have ‘next stop’ audio-visual announcements." under the 82 heading, presumably trying to point out something not present on the JH/GCT offering of the 82/82A. 

Have the "'next stop' audio-visual announcements" been reinstated on the other Washington 8x services? I don't think I've seen them active since the service changes 9 months ago.

(20 Apr 2023, 4:10 pm)Rob44 wrote Journeys will only run as far as QE Hospital, no longer serving Gateshead Interchange. Customers travelling to Gateshead can change buses at Wrekenton, onto Cityrider service 56 and X-lines service X1.

does the 2528/51/52 no longer stop at wrekenton??

Why not advise to change at QE and add the 57 to buses you can catch or  is this bus service been ditched?

(20 Apr 2023, 4:33 pm)Storx wrote The services are just a farce with the 25/81/82/83.

I wish they'd just work with GNE and run the 81 all day between Waterview Park and Newcastle via the 81 route extended to Newcastle and scrap the rest.

It would make it a hell of a lot easier for people.

There's the 28 for people who want to go from Birtley to the QE and others can change at Wrekenton.

If the minibuses become full, then that's a sign of success and just up the frequency where the problems are... Be nice to try and actually build a route for once.

(20 Apr 2023, 7:52 pm)Malarkey wrote I agree with this, the revised 82 is Go North East literally setting it up to turn around to Nexus and say it's not commercially viable down the line to operate with cutting it from Q.E. Hospital to Gateshead, actually quite a few do use the 82 to/from Gateshead more so to Birtley if the 21 has been late and wouldn't you if you still only paying £2 Single, I do think if Go North East kept the existing route as it is then with there fare options it could boost passenger numbers in a positive manner.  

One thing GNE and Nexus do need to sort is the evening/sunday timings of the 28B/81 as they operate within a few mins of each other going into Gateshead from Chowdene Bank onwards, have often seen both together.

(20 Apr 2023, 7:52 pm)Malarkey wrote I agree with this, the revised 82 is Go North East literally setting it up to turn around to Nexus and say it's not commercially viable down the line to operate with cutting it from Q.E. Hospital to Gateshead, actually quite a few do use the 82 to/from Gateshead more so to Birtley if the 21 has been late and wouldn't you if you still only paying £2 Single, I do think if Go North East kept the existing route as it is then with there fare options it could boost passenger numbers in a positive manner.  

One thing GNE and Nexus do need to sort is the evening/sunday timings of the 28B/81 as they operate within a few mins of each other going into Gateshead from Chowdene Bank onwards, have often seen both together.

(20 Apr 2023, 7:52 pm)Malarkey wrote I agree with this, the revised 82 is Go North East literally setting it up to turn around to Nexus and say it's not commercially viable down the line to operate with cutting it from Q.E. Hospital to Gateshead, actually quite a few do use the 82 to/from Gateshead more so to Birtley if the 21 has been late and wouldn't you if you still only paying £2 Single, I do think if Go North East kept the existing route as it is then with there fare options it could boost passenger numbers in a positive manner.  

One thing GNE and Nexus do need to sort is the evening/sunday timings of the 28B/81 as they operate within a few mins of each other going into Gateshead from Chowdene Bank onwards, have often seen both together.

(20 Apr 2023, 8:34 pm)Unber43 wrote Wonder if the 81 running all day hourly with the 8 hourly from Washington to Sunderland, then the 81 connecting to Newcastle would be better than the 8 every 30 mins, and that can be from washington only.

(20 Apr 2023, 4:33 pm)Storx wrote The services are just a farce with the 25/81/82/83. 

I wish they'd just work with GNE and run the 81 all day between Waterview Park and Newcastle via the 81 route extended to Newcastle and scrap the rest.

It would make it a hell of a lot easier for people.

There's the 28 for people who want to go from Birtley to the QE and others can change at Wrekenton.

If the minibuses become full, then that's a sign of success and just up the frequency where the problems are... Be nice to try and actually build a route for once.

(21 Apr 2023, 8:14 am)nova347 wrote On the 65 changes, it says the one that leaves at 8:36 from Seaham will depart 30 minutes earlier, there is already a 65 that leaves at 8:06, so are they just taking away that 8:36 journey and replacing it with an existing journey or what?? Because like I've said there's already an 8:06 from Seaham, so is there not going to be a bus till 9:13 ?

(21 Apr 2023, 11:36 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote What are the chances, we see a rare working first week of the 82's operation?
Which depot Will the 79/520 be operated by?

(20 Apr 2023, 3:15 pm)Adrian wrote I notice "Journeys will track in real-time on our mobile app and buses will have ‘next stop’ audio-visual announcements." under the 82 heading, presumably trying to point out something not present on the JH/GCT offering of the 82/82A.

Have the "'next stop' audio-visual announcements" been reinstated on the other Washington 8x services? I don't think I've seen them active since the service changes 9 months ago.

(20 Apr 2023, 3:15 pm)Adrian wrote I notice "Journeys will track in real-time on our mobile app and buses will have ‘next stop’ audio-visual announcements." under the 82 heading, presumably trying to point out something not present on the JH/GCT offering of the 82/82A.

Have the "'next stop' audio-visual announcements" been reinstated on the other Washington 8x services? I don't think I've seen them active since the service changes 9 months ago.

(21 Apr 2023, 10:41 am)Andreos1 wrote I'm an enthusiast who has been in and around those areas for over 40 years. 
I've lost track of what goes where and the route it takes. 
I haven't got a clue what goes where now. 

I could spend time revising and researching. But that's not always appealing and the car will inevitably be far quicker.

If a gricer can't keep up, what chance does anyone else have? 

The endless changes, splits, revisions, paint jobs, re-numbering, route adaptations, diversion and the total failure of the operator to maintain a stable network isn't going to sustain passengers nor attract new ones.

(23 Apr 2023, 1:28 pm)Washingtonian wrote You can see how everything is played out to suit the big operators. So GNE binned the 82 because it wasn't making much money despite reported decent loadings, then it's given as a Nexus contract to JH Coaches but GNE tickets/cards can't be used on them so passenger numbers go down further. Then GNE are awarded the contract and will be running the 82 again because they having the funding and can also can promote their products and services at the same time! So it's effectively costing GNE nothing to run now compared to before and they can make more profit on it! You couldn't make it up!

What's even more ironic is the big operators like GNE and Arriva are now teaming up with new ticketing schemes, going by what's being piloted in North Tyneside. While this is good for passengers in the short term you can see how this is only going to strengthen the big operators further and put more pressure on the independents. The more competition they take away the more control they have and the more money they make.

(23 Apr 2023, 5:17 pm)Malarkey wrote Go North East really need to look at improving the frequency and reliability of the Voltra 53/54, recently moved from my previous haunt of Low Fell to Bensham and I have seen a number of service cancellations or buses running in two's in either direction which simply put isn't good enough in the few weeks I have been using the services to/from Newcastle. I think reverting back to the old route and having a quayside shuttle would be a better option, of course this may see PVR/Driver Numbers increase.