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3995 - N391OTY - 27 Oct 2023
Despite not having tracked in Bustimes since 1 September, I have noticed that 3995 (GNE's oldest service bus ???) is still very much with us. It has made regular appearances on services 18A and 553 past my house over the past few weeks. Wonder how much longer it, and the other GX03 regs, can hang on ?
RE: 3995 - Unber43 - 27 Oct 2023
Keep it till it goes down
might be worth keeping an eye on this https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/fleet-sales
GNE hasn't half changed with their aging fleet, years ago with the Vykings, Lloynes, Presidents, SPD, MPD, Cadet, Renowns a lot of them were withdrawn at 15 years if not before in the case of the Cadets/SPD/MPD
RE: 3995 - N391OTY - 27 Oct 2023
(27 Oct 2023, 12:11 am)Unber43 wrote Keep it till it goes downSuppose I'd better say it before somebody else does - I know that the open-toppers 6997/8/9 are older but I don't consider them part of the everyday service fleet !
might be worth keeping an eye on this https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/fleet-sales
GNE hasn't half changed with their aging fleet, years ago with the Vykings, Lloynes, Presidents, SPD, MPD, Cadet, Renowns a lot of them were withdrawn at 15 years if not before in the case of the Cadets/SPD/MPD
As you say, I never thought I would see a time when major bus operators were still using 20 yesr-old buses in regular service, apart from LT Routemasters back in the good old days.
RE: 3995 - Unber43 - 27 Oct 2023
(27 Oct 2023, 12:31 am)N391OTY wrote Suppose I'd better say it before somebody else does - I know that the open-toppers 6997/8/9 are older but I don't consider them part of the everyday service fleet !It's staggering that 13 year old buses are still in front line services daily and busy routes, even 10 year old buses are struggling.
As you say, I never thought I would see a time when major bus operators were still using 20 yesr-old buses in regular service, apart from LT Routemasters back in the good old days.
I think I would rahter have had a Loyne or a Vyking or MPD rather than todays Solos and OmniDekka's
RE: 3995 - busmanT - 27 Oct 2023
(27 Oct 2023, 12:03 am)N391OTY wrote Despite not having tracked in Bustimes since 1 September, I have noticed that 3995 (GNE's oldest service bus ???) is still very much with us. It has made regular appearances on services 18A and 553 past my house over the past few weeks. Wonder how much longer it, and the other GX03 regs, can hang on ?
I suspect that they would have gone by now if GNE hadn’t had to loan the E200MMC to GNW.
The unreliability of the hybrids has also probably meant that older buses are retained longer.
(27 Oct 2023, 12:46 am)Unber43 wrote It's staggering that 13 year old buses are still in front line services daily and busy routes, even 10 year old buses are struggling.
I think I would rahter have had a Loyne or a Vyking or MPD rather than todays Solos and OmniDekka's
Having lost £4.3m last year, I can’t see GNE getting new buses anytime soon.
Having to give drivers another inflation busting pay rise is presumably going to lead to bigger losses in the next accounts.
RE: 3995 - Andreos1 - 27 Oct 2023
(27 Oct 2023, 6:35 am)busmanT wrote I suspect that they would have gone by now if GNE hadn’t had to loan the E200MMC to GNW.
The unreliability of the hybrids has also probably meant that older buses are retained longer.
Having lost £4.3m last year, I can’t see GNE getting new buses anytime soon.
Having to give drivers another inflation busting pay rise is presumably going to lead to bigger losses in the next accounts.
Here's hoping those drivers (whether they work full or part-time, even just the odd Saturday in the summer) who voice this opinion, let the operator know they are more than happy taking the lower rate. And actually ensure they refuse any agreed increase.
It's the very least they can do to stop the even bigger losses you mention.
RE: 3995 - Ambassador - 27 Oct 2023
(27 Oct 2023, 7:55 am)Andreos1 wrote Here's hoping those drivers (whether they work full or part-time, even just the odd Saturday in the summer) who voice this opinion, let the operator know they are more than happy taking the lower rate. And actually ensure they refuse any agreed increase.
It's the very least they can do to stop the even bigger losses you mention.
One must think of dear Roger and all of those who rely on the Go Ahead pension
RE: 3995 - BIG MICK STOKOE - 10 Nov 2023
I’d rather have a Scania Metropolitan than any of this modern rubbish