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September 2025 changes - Michael - 14 Jul 2025
First of the school services changes have appeared on VOSA:
PB0003954/1446
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 115N (115) Calllerton Academy Newbiggin Hall Estate
PB0003954/1294
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 118N (118) Westerhope Kenton School
PB0003954/1473
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 695 Killingworth North Gosforth Academy
I would imagine more changes will appear in the coming weeks.
RE: September 2025 changes - Michael - 15 Jul 2025
PB0003954/1439
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 457 Cleadon St Robert of Newminster Catholic School
PB0003954/1311
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 458 Wheatsheaf St Roberts Of Newminster
PB0003954/1440
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 462 Biddick Academy Rickleton
RE: September 2025 changes - Michael - 18 Jul 2025
PB0003954/1388
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 353 North Shields Cramlington
PB0003954/1389
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 354 North Shields Newcastle
PB0003954/1463
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 342 Kingston Park Wallsend
PB0003954/1151
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 340 (341) Hadrian Park Wallsend
PB0003954/1387
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 352 Newcastle Cramlington
PB0003954/1390
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 355 (356) Forest Hall Newcastle
RE: September 2025 changes - V514DFT - 19 Jul 2025
Variation to the 352?, back to full time again
RE: September 2025 changes - Michael - 19 Jul 2025
PB0003954/1446
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 115N (115) Calllerton Academy Newbiggin Hall Estate
PB0003954/1297
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 141N (141) Walbottle Academy Newbiggin Hall
PB0003954/1315
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 655N (655) George Stephenson High School West Allotment
PB0003954/1442
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 792N (792) DSS Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1321
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 839N (839) St Thomas More Catholic School Whickham
PB0003954/1292
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 105N (105) Great Park St. Cuthbert's Vatholic High School
PB0003954/1237
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 142 (142N) Kenton Bar Walbottle Academy
PB0003954/1314
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 653N (653) Holystone George Stephenson High School
PB0003954/1041
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 875 (875N) Lockhaugh Road Thorp Academy
PB0003954/1294
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 118N (118) Westerhope Kenton School
PB0003954/1461
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 134N (134) Sacred Heart Catholic High School Fawdon
PB0003954/923
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 677 (677N) St Thomas More RC Academy Wallsend
PB0003954/1317
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 794N (794) DWP Tyneview Park Stanley
PB0003954/1400
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 892N (892) Whickham School Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1351
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 893N (893) High Spen Whickham School
RE: September 2025 changes - Dan - 19 Jul 2025
(19 Jul 2025, 10:12 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/1446
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 115N (115) Calllerton Academy Newbiggin Hall Estate
PB0003954/1297
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 141N (141) Walbottle Academy Newbiggin Hall
PB0003954/1315
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 655N (655) George Stephenson High School West Allotment
PB0003954/1442
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 792N (792) DSS Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1321
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 839N (839) St Thomas More Catholic School Whickham
PB0003954/1292
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 105N (105) Great Park St. Cuthbert's Vatholic High School
PB0003954/1237
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 142 (142N) Kenton Bar Walbottle Academy
PB0003954/1314
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 653N (653) Holystone George Stephenson High School
PB0003954/1041
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 875 (875N) Lockhaugh Road Thorp Academy
PB0003954/1294
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 118N (118) Westerhope Kenton School
PB0003954/1461
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 134N (134) Sacred Heart Catholic High School Fawdon
PB0003954/923
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 677 (677N) St Thomas More RC Academy Wallsend
PB0003954/1317
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 794N (794) DWP Tyneview Park Stanley
PB0003954/1400
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 892N (892) Whickham School Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1351
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 893N (893) High Spen Whickham School
These are the six Miscellaneous Works contracts which Go North East chose not to extend the contracts on by a further year.
They were unsuccessful in being awarded them on a new tender - instead being allocated to Northstar, Stanley Travel and Stagecoach.
RE: September 2025 changes - OrangeArrow49 - 19 Jul 2025
(19 Jul 2025, 10:33 pm)Dan wrote These are the six Miscellaneous Works contracts which Go North East chose not to extend the contracts on by a further year.
They were unsuccessful in being awarded them on a new tender - instead being allocated to Northstar, Stanley Travel and Stagecoach.
Who has been awarded the 792 and 794 from September? Does the 941 change operators in September?
Thanks.
RE: September 2025 changes - V514DFT - 20 Jul 2025
Wonder whats happening with the 35*'s
RE: September 2025 changes - Malarkey - 20 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 6:32 pm)V514DFT wrote Wonder whats happening with the 35*'s
For me they should withdraw the 352/354/355 as they duplicate other services more specifically operated by Stagecoach in the 37/38.
Hopefully that will occur when Franchising comes into play.
RE: September 2025 changes - PH - BQA - 20 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 8:26 pm)Malarkey wrote For me they should withdraw the 352/354/355 as they duplicate other services more specifically operated by Stagecoach in the 37/38.
Hopefully that will occur when Franchising comes into play.
As a frequent user of the 37/8, they always seem significantly busier than the 352 (on the days where I see the 1610 it is carrying fresh air at best), and the 355.
RE: September 2025 changes - Storx - 20 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 8:26 pm)Malarkey wrote For me they should withdraw the 352/354/355 as they duplicate other services more specifically operated by Stagecoach in the 37/38.
Hopefully that will occur when Franchising comes into play.
To be fair, the 354/355 do different corridors, the 354 being Gosforth to Killingworth and the 355 doing Matthew Bank which would be unserved otherwise.
RE: September 2025 changes - Malarkey - 20 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 8:48 pm)PH - BQA wrote As a frequent user of the 37/8, they always seem significantly busier than the 352 (on the days where I see the 1610 it is carrying fresh air at best), and the 355.
Stagecoach are also offering more frequent service, better cross-city connections and a cheaper fare offering in comparison to Go North East and more than likely a more reliable service also so it wouldn't surprise me if others like yourself are using the 37/38.
RE: September 2025 changes - NEtransport - 20 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 8:48 pm)PH - BQA wrote As a frequent user of the 37/8, they always seem significantly busier than the 352 (on the days where I see the 1610 it is carrying fresh air at best), and the 355.
Liar. The 37, 38, 352 and 354 are always dead.355/356 are usually busy.
Why write posts that are nonsense?
RE: September 2025 changes - PH - BQA - 20 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 9:01 pm)NEtransport wrote Liar. The 37, 38, 352 and 354 are always dead.355/356 are usually busy.
Why write posts that are nonsense?
I use the 37 and 38 daily to commute, and every time I have used them they always carry very healthy loads. If my usual bus is a single decker then it generally means standing for my journey. I've used the services at multiple times across the day, including outside of the peaks.
Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that I am a liar? Or are you just incapable of comprehending that some people may actually touch grass from time to time and use bus services, rather than look at them on the internet?
RE: September 2025 changes - Ambassador - 20 Jul 2025
I have to say everytime I've seen or used the 38 its very busy, especially around hospital visiting hours and on the West Road patch, its always been one of Stagecoach's mainstay routes even back to the Busways days and its consistently maintained its every 10 mins service.
Equally, I often see the 356 carrying fresh air, and its one of the first routes that GNE dump an open top on during shortages (even during the rain) - I can't say the 354/5 are that busy, the former often arrives in Quroum empty even at rush hour
RE: September 2025 changes - Storx - 20 Jul 2025
Must say from a North of Four Lane Ends view I'd say
37: Not busy, but there's people on - very quiet by Cramlington
38: Don't see it, no comment
353: Lightly loaded, especially after butchering the frequency in half
354: Dead
62: Very lightly loaded, outside peaks
63: Don't see it, no comment
355/356: Generally well loaded at Western side, dead around Monkseaton
X7/X8: Picked up the 52/54/555/X63 loads from Quorum to Metro/Newcastle, Metro loads being people connecting at Haymarket since they butched the Four Lane Ends to Quorum frequency so it's borderline unusable
X63: Lightly loaded, outside peaks.
RE: September 2025 changes - OrangeArrow49 - 21 Jul 2025
74 withdrawn from December 2025?
Anyone know who has got the 792 and 794 from September?
Thanks.
RE: September 2025 changes - peter - 21 Jul 2025
(21 Jul 2025, 8:01 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote 74 withdrawn from December 2025?
Anyone know who has got the 792 and 794 from September?
Thanks.
This thread is about service changes from September, but I'm intrigued where you've heard that the 74 is being withdrawn from December...if you're basing it off BusTimes.org saying the timetable is "until 23rd December 2025", then I wouldn't worry (or believe everything you read for that matter) as that's showing for loads of routes and is presumably to account for Christmas timetables which are obviously way off yet
RE: September 2025 changes - NEtransport - 23 Jul 2025
(20 Jul 2025, 9:48 pm)Ambassador wrote I have to say everytime I've seen or used the 38 its very busy, especially around hospital visiting hours and on the West Road patch, its always been one of Stagecoach's mainstay routes even back to the Busways days and its consistently maintained its every 10 mins service.
Equally, I often see the 356 carrying fresh air, and its one of the first routes that GNE dump an open top on during shortages (even during the rain) - I can't say the 354/5 are that busy, the former often arrives in Quroum empty even at rush hour
Sorry, I wasn’t being clear. I wasn’t referring to the full route. I meant the areas where they replaced the old Arriva routes.
The 37 and 38 are very poorly loaded after Freeman Hosptial. Can’t seem them lasting. But very popular for the remainder of the route, obviously
RE: September 2025 changes - V514DFT - 23 Jul 2025
Well the 37 has pretty much saw off the 352, so Stagecoach must be doing something right, they obviously see it as viable almost 2 years after Arriva withdrew their services
RE: September 2025 changes - Shrek - 23 Jul 2025
(23 Jul 2025, 7:17 pm)NEtransport wrote Sorry, I wasn’t being clear. I wasn’t referring to the full route. I meant the areas where they replaced the old Arriva routes.
The 37 and 38 are very poorly loaded after Freeman Hosptial. Can’t seem them lasting. But very popular for the remainder of the route, obviously
38 generally seems to do fine when I use it get to Forest Hall.
RE: September 2025 changes - logidoodah - 23 Jul 2025
(23 Jul 2025, 7:17 pm)NEtransport wrote Sorry, I wasn’t being clear. I wasn’t referring to the full route. I meant the areas where they replaced the old Arriva routes.
The 37 and 38 are very poorly loaded after Freeman Hosptial. Can’t seem them lasting. But very popular for the remainder of the route, obviously
(23 Jul 2025, 10:19 pm)V514DFT wrote Well the 37 has pretty much saw off the 352, so Stagecoach must be doing something right, they obviously see it as viable almost 2 years after Arriva withdrew their services
(23 Jul 2025, 11:12 pm)Shrek wrote 38 generally seems to do fine when I use it get to Forest Hall.
I think the 38 is the underdog to the 355 in Forest Hall but the 352/353/354 are all the combined underdogs of the 37 from South Gosforth - Cramlington.
The 37 does require deckers even north of FLE at peak times and is VERY well used.
Additionally, the link to Freeman hospital from FLE has never been more accessible so we should be hoping that it stays imo...
In reality I hope the 37/38 get split evenly at 20/20 instead of the 38 (short)/38/37 combined every 10. If marketing is done correctly then passenger numbers can be grown and deckers be warranted at that increased frequency (north of Freeman Hospital).
But this is not a service suggestions thread, there are plenty of those so I won't comment any further on this...
RE: September 2025 changes - Michael - 24 Jul 2025
PB0003954/1446
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 115N (115) Calllerton Academy Newbiggin Hall Estate
PB0003954/1297
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 141N (141) Walbottle Academy Newbiggin Hall
PB0003954/1315
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 655N (655) George Stephenson High School West Allotment
PB0003954/1442
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 792N (792) DSS Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1321
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 839N (839) St Thomas More Catholic School Whickham
PB0003954/1292
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 105N (105) Great Park St. Cuthbert's Vatholic High School
PB0003954/1237
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 142 (142N) Kenton Bar Walbottle Academy
PB0003954/1314
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 653N (653) Holystone George Stephenson High School
PB0003954/1041
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 875 (875N) Lockhaugh Road Thorp Academy
PB0003954/1294
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 118N (118) Westerhope Kenton School
PB0003954/1461
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 134N (134) Sacred Heart Catholic High School Fawdon
PB0003954/923
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 677 (677N) St Thomas More RC Academy Wallsend
PB0003954/1317
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 794N (794) DWP Tyneview Park Stanley
PB0003954/1400
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 892N (892) Whickham School Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1351
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 893N (893) High Spen Whickham School
RE: September 2025 changes - OrangeArrow49 - 24 Jul 2025
(24 Jul 2025, 5:56 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/1446
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 115N (115) Calllerton Academy Newbiggin Hall Estate
PB0003954/1297
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 141N (141) Walbottle Academy Newbiggin Hall
PB0003954/1315
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 655N (655) George Stephenson High School West Allotment
PB0003954/1442
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 792N (792) DSS Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1321
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 839N (839) St Thomas More Catholic School Whickham
PB0003954/1292
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 105N (105) Great Park St. Cuthbert's Vatholic High School
PB0003954/1237
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 142 (142N) Kenton Bar Walbottle Academy
PB0003954/1314
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 653N (653) Holystone George Stephenson High School
PB0003954/1041
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 875 (875N) Lockhaugh Road Thorp Academy
PB0003954/1294
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 118N (118) Westerhope Kenton School
PB0003954/1461
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 134N (134) Sacred Heart Catholic High School Fawdon
PB0003954/923
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 677 (677N) St Thomas More RC Academy Wallsend
PB0003954/1317
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 794N (794) DWP Tyneview Park Stanley
PB0003954/1400
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 892N (892) Whickham School Blackhall Mill
PB0003954/1351
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 893N (893) High Spen Whickham School
792 and 794 going to Stagecoach?
RE: September 2025 changes - Michael - 24 Jul 2025
(24 Jul 2025, 7:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote 792 and 794 going to Stagecoach?
Nothing on VOSA as of yet for those services.
RE: September 2025 changes - OrangeArrow49 - 24 Jul 2025
(24 Jul 2025, 7:31 pm)Michael wrote Nothing on VOSA as of yet for those services.
Thanks for the reply.
Not on Bustimes for Northstar or Stanley Travel, so I'm guessing Stagecoach have got them. Was really hoping Northstar!
RE: September 2025 changes - Dan - 03 Aug 2025
(24 Jul 2025, 11:08 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Thanks for the reply.
Not on Bustimes for Northstar or Stanley Travel, so I'm guessing Stagecoach have got them. Was really hoping Northstar!
The 792 has been awarded to Northstar, the 794 has been awarded to Stanley Travel.
RE: September 2025 changes - Michael - 03 Aug 2025
(03 Aug 2025, 11:55 am)Dan wrote The 792 has been awarded to Northstar, the 794 has been awarded to Stanley Travel.
The contacts gave out for September, are they all school/work contracts or is their local services (Not including the Sunderland connect - as we now they've gone to City Transport).
RE: September 2025 changes - OrangeArrow49 - 03 Aug 2025
(03 Aug 2025, 11:55 am)Dan wrote The 792 has been awarded to Northstar, the 794 has been awarded to Stanley Travel.
Very happy to hear Northstar has been awarded the 792, and the 794 has been awarded to Stanley Travel. Hopefully no route and timetable changes.
RE: September 2025 changes - Dan - 03 Aug 2025
(03 Aug 2025, 12:49 pm)Michael wrote The contacts gave out for September, are they all school/work contracts or is their local services (Not including the Sunderland connect - as we now they've gone to City Transport).
Yes, 20x Miscellaneous Works (school and works) contracts.
Currently 6x GNE and 14x Stagecoach, and will instead be 14x Stagecoach, 3x Northstar, 2x Stanley Travel and 1x L&G Coaches.
The L&G board somewhat notable as it includes a works service (968) which is the company’s first time at bidding for a works service board.
That is in addition to Sunderland Connect, awarded to City Transport (ex GNE).