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Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 23 Jun 2026

This is just a thread where you can jot down your ideas about former running routes.
Does anybody remember the old TB1


Cowan Terrace-Mariville West VIA City Hall , Roker Marina , Ashbrooke , Ryhope Village

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - LVK 404L - 23 Jun 2026

(23 Jun 2026, 4:44 pm)EastGatesheadRider wrote This is just a thread where you can jot down your ideas about former running routes.
Does anybody remember the old TB1


Cowan Terrace-Mariville West VIA City Hall , Roker Marina , Ashbrooke , Ryhope Village

I do and I also remember every time I timed it at Fawcett Street it never showed up (or identified itself as a Taxi bus)

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 24 Jun 2026

Many people could agree and many people could disagree this sometimes pops up when seaburn rec does one of them bus model fairs next to the grand hotel the usually model is a at seaburn rec is a optare solo SR Busways


18 Grindon-Seaburn Camp

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - L469 YVK - 24 Jun 2026

325/326!!

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - DaveFromUpNorth - 24 Jun 2026

18 and 19 Grindon Circular the proper one

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - DH9 - 24 Jun 2026

638 Sunderland to Crawcrook?

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - LVK 404L - 25 Jun 2026

X50 Durham - Washington - South Shields

Restore the link to South Tyneside District Hospital and express route from Boldon - Washington - Chester le Street

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - X919 WGR - 25 Jun 2026

(25 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm)LVK 404L wrote X50 Durham - Washington - South Shields

Restore the link to South Tyneside District Hospital and express route from Boldon - Washington - Chester le Street

Was the route much different to the now 50 route?

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Economic505 - 25 Jun 2026

121/122 ( original numbering Back in the PTE days): Tunstall Rd / Leechmere Rd - Grangetown- City Centre 

Then 

121 via Roker Park Rd and Park Avenue to Seaburn Hotel 
122 via Sea Front to what was then Seaburn Camp terminus. 

Both routes withdrawn in 1983 and merged into existing 118 and new 119.

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - LVK 404L - 25 Jun 2026

(25 Jun 2026, 3:29 pm)X919 WGR wrote Was the route much different to the now 50 route?

Yes much different

X50 was
South Shields
Westoe
South Tyneside District Hospital
Whiteleas Bridge
Boldon Asda

Fast to DWP Waterview Park
Fast to Washington Galleries
Fast to Chester le Street

Then if I am correct all stops to Durham

The section South Shields to Boldon was limited stop also.  

Much quicker than the 50

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 25 Jun 2026

Hail and Ride TB43 around the metrocentre

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Retro Nero - 26 Jun 2026

(25 Jun 2026, 5:18 pm)LVK 404L wrote Yes much different

X50 was
South Shields
Westoe
South Tyneside District Hospital
Whiteleas Bridge
Boldon Asda

Fast to DWP Waterview Park
Fast to Washington Galleries
Fast to Chester le Street

Then if I am correct all stops to Durham

The section South Shields to Boldon was limited stop also.  

Much quicker than the 50

Continued onto X20 to Shields.

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Storx - 26 Jun 2026

(25 Jun 2026, 1:50 pm)LVK 404L wrote X50 Durham - Washington - South Shields

Restore the link to South Tyneside District Hospital and express route from Boldon - Washington - Chester le Street

Not sure there'd be much demand for an X50.

What needs sorting out is the mess which is Washington and let it go express or semi fast between CLS and Washington again.

The 22/81/82/82A farce is where the magical tour on the 50 should be part of imo since it's covering those services. There's been a million variants of those though. Generally the whole Washington service is crap though imo. Has to be the biggest place in Tyne and Wear where a chunk of the place doesn't have a connection to Newcastle or a 15 minute+ connection service. Rothbury has a better service than some areas!

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - LVK 404L - 27 Jun 2026

(26 Jun 2026, 10:32 pm)Storx wrote Not sure there'd be much demand for an X50.

What needs sorting out is the mess which is Washington and let it go express or semi fast between CLS and Washington again.

The 22/81/82/82A farce is where the magical tour on the 50 should be part of imo since it's covering those services. There's been a million variants of those though. Generally the whole Washington service is crap though imo. Has to be the biggest place in Tyne and Wear where a chunk of the place doesn't have a connection to Newcastle or a 15 minute+ connection service. Rothbury has a better service than some areas!

That's your opinion though.  The 50 has always been complained about the time of sections and when we did have the X50 previous, it was full loads regular on full size single deckers 

I believe the custom is there, even if the regular 50 got cut back to hourly as a result

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Storx - 27 Jun 2026

(27 Jun 2026, 4:45 am)LVK 404L wrote That's your opinion though.  The 50 has always been complained about the time of sections and when we did have the X50 previous, it was full loads regular on full size single deckers 

I believe the custom is there, even if the regular 50 got cut back to hourly as a result

I get but what your saying but I think speeding the 50 up by removing the dogleg route via Washington would be better and make that express instead.

Like messing around with the 8/22/81/82/82A could you maybe look at 3 new routes doing something like:


It sorts out the 50 slow issues between Washington and CLS and also the express 8 issues since both are going on a magical tour around the world right now and removes pointless terminus points like the QE or Teal Farm which are poor points. I can't see any negatives bar a small section of SE Washington losing the CLS links. There's a few new links aswell, especially to Southwick, Newcastle and the Stadium of Light which don't exist currently. 

Just think it's better than duplicating the 50 and having hourly services etc. The missing 81/82 is the issue history services in Washington imo. 

(The now missing Birtley links are another discussion - I'm aware).

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Rob44 - 27 Jun 2026

44 hazlerigg to Whitley Bay bus station

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - logidoodah - 30 Jun 2026

Seeing as the 100 is probs never gonna come back and the abysmal frequency and reliability on the 6/7 to the Metrocentre. I would bring back the 4 and 5 to/from Metrocentre, slatyford, fenham, benwell (each loop opposite ways at an hourly frequency).

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 01 Jul 2026

The 585 ferry replace

Maybe it isnt just a ferry replacement , it could eventually qualify as an actual shuttle Xpress to get over the tyne .


585 N SHIELDS -> S SHIELDS SHUTTLE 05:30 -> 22:00

South Shields Interchange
Church Way , The Word
Straker Street
Howdon Road
Duke Street Ferry Terminal

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - L469 YVK - 01 Jul 2026

(27 Jun 2026, 9:03 am)Rob44 wrote 44 hazlerigg to Whitley Bay bus station

Newcastle to W.Bay/Blyth as an X38 would be a shout.

Qualifying agreement would've been ideal for this including rationalising PVR's / operating areas of the services (GNE N.Shields & Tynemouth / Arriva W.Bay & Blyth). Very unlikely to happen now.

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - X919 WGR - 01 Jul 2026

(25 Jun 2026, 5:18 pm)LVK 404L wrote Yes much different

X50 was
South Shields
Westoe
South Tyneside District Hospital
Whiteleas Bridge
Boldon Asda

Fast to DWP Waterview Park
Fast to Washington Galleries
Fast to Chester le Street

Then if I am correct all stops to Durham

The section South Shields to Boldon was limited stop also.  

Much quicker than the 50

Oh intresting, thanks for sharing. Shame its a 10x longer route now...

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Retro Nero - 02 Jul 2026

(25 Jun 2026, 5:18 pm)LVK 404L wrote Yes much different

X50 was
South Shields
Westoe
South Tyneside District Hospital
Whiteleas Bridge
Boldon Asda

Fast to DWP Waterview Park
Fast to Washington Galleries
Fast to Chester le Street

Then if I am correct all stops to Durham

The section South Shields to Boldon was limited stop also.  

Much quicker than the 50

Chester then fast to Arnison Centre then via Framwellgate, to Durham

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - LVK 404L - 02 Jul 2026

They certainly need to review reinstating the express version of the 50

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 15 Aug 2026

The old Halloween Special 101 between Seaburn Iluminations/Roker Park to Sunderland St Marys but renovated
WILL BE RAN BY GCT

Will run all year round now as a Beach Shuttle Bus between 8:30 Am and 9:30 Am (Running every 10 minutes during Summer break 10 Am-3  Pm

Will not stop at Seaburn Morisons but will finish at a new stop (House of Zen) being the only bus to stop there

Will replace a little bit of the TB1 North of the Wear so if the TB1 is ever brought back (probably not) it won't need server Dame Dorothy area

NEW ROUTE
101 Sunderland - Seaburn Beach

Sunderland Winter Gardens                                 Other Services: 8 , 10 , 11 , 32 , 61 , 62 , 63 , 62A
Sunderland Fawcett stand 7                                Other Services: 4 , 16
Sunderland Fawcett stand 5                                Other Services: 35 , 36 , 56 , 939
Topcliff                                                                     Other services: (old) TB1
Roker Marina Wheatsheaf Court.                        Other servicesSadold) TB1
House of Zen                                                          Other services:

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - NorthEastern - 15 Aug 2026

Cheers will it be special vehicles ?

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - LVK 404L - 15 Aug 2026

(15 Aug 2026, 11:32 am)NorthEastern wrote Cheers will it be special vehicles ?

This is not an actual service it's a suggestion , which would not happen

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Economic505 - 15 Aug 2026

(15 Aug 2026, 9:49 am)EastGatesheadRider wrote The old Halloween Special 101 between Seaburn Iluminations/Roker Park to Sunderland St Marys but renovated
WILL BE RAN BY GCT

Will run all year round now as a Beach Shuttle Bus between 8:30 Am and 9:30 Am (Running every 10 minutes during Summer break 10 Am-3  Pm

Will not stop at Seaburn Morisons but will finish at a new stop (House of Zen) being the only bus to stop there

Will replace a little bit of the TB1 North of the Wear so if the TB1 is ever brought back (probably not) it won't need server Dame Dorothy area

NEW ROUTE
101 Sunderland - Seaburn Beach

Sunderland Winter Gardens                                 Other Services: 8 , 10 , 11 , 32 , 61 , 62 , 63 , 62A
Sunderland Fawcett stand 7                                Other Services: 4 , 16
Sunderland Fawcett stand 5                                Other Services: 35 , 36 , 56 , 939
Topcliff                                                                     Other services: (old) TB1
Roker Marina Wheatsheaf Court.                        Other servicesSadold) TB1
House of Zen                                                          Other services:
By GCT? Cowboys .

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 17 Aug 2026

(15 Aug 2026, 9:49 am)EastGatesheadRider wrote The old Halloween Special 101 between Seaburn Iluminations/Roker Park to Sunderland St Marys but renovated
WILL BE RAN BY GCT

Will run all year round now as a Beach Shuttle Bus between 8:30 Am and 9:30 Am (Running every 10 minutes during Summer break 10 Am-3  Pm

Will not stop at Seaburn Morisons but will finish at a new stop (House of Zen) being the only bus to stop there

Will replace a little bit of the TB1 North of the Wear so if the TB1 is ever brought back (probably not) it won't need server Dame Dorothy area

NEW ROUTE
101 Sunderland - Seaburn Beach

Sunderland Winter Gardens                                 Other Services: 8 , 10 , 11 , 32 , 61 , 62 , 63 , 62A
Sunderland Fawcett stand 7                                Other Services: 4 , 16
Sunderland Fawcett stand 5                                Other Services: 35 , 36 , 56 , 939
Topcliff                                                                     Other services: (old) TB1
Roker Marina Wheatsheaf Court.                        Other servicesSadold) TB1
House of Zen                                                          Other services:

(15 Aug 2026, 11:32 am)NorthEastern wrote Cheers will it be special vehicles ?
Open toppers of any model , during winter just normal double deckers.
(15 Aug 2026, 9:49 am)EastGatesheadRider wrote The old Halloween Special 101 between Seaburn Iluminations/Roker Park to Sunderland St Marys but renovated
WILL BE RAN BY GCT

Will run all year round now as a Beach Shuttle Bus between 8:30 Am and 9:30 Am (Running every 10 minutes during Summer break 10 Am-3  Pm

Will not stop at Seaburn Morisons but will finish at a new stop (House of Zen) being the only bus to stop there

Will replace a little bit of the TB1 North of the Wear so if the TB1 is ever brought back (probably not) it won't need server Dame Dorothy area

NEW ROUTE
101 Sunderland - Seaburn Beach

Sunderland Winter Gardens                                 Other Services: 8 , 10 , 11 , 32 , 61 , 62 , 63 , 62A
Sunderland Fawcett stand 7                                Other Services: 4 , 16
Sunderland Fawcett stand 5                                Other Services: 35 , 36 , 56 , 939
Topcliff                                                                     Other services: (old) TB1
Roker Marina Wheatsheaf Court.                        Other servicesSadold) TB1
House of Zen                                                          Other services:

(15 Aug 2026, 11:32 am)NorthEastern wrote Cheers will it be special vehicles ?
Open toppers of any model , during winter just normal double deckers.

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 27 Aug 2026

160 between Sunderland and New Lambton

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - Retro Nero - 27 Aug 2026

(27 Aug 2026, 6:50 pm)EastGatesheadRider wrote 160 between Sunderland and New Lambton

Is the New Lambton terminus / turning circle still there or is it now houses?

RE: Historic Routes that need to be brought back - EastGatesheadRider - 18 Sep 2026

(27 Aug 2026, 7:36 pm)Retro Nero wrote Is the New Lambton terminus / turning circle still there or is it now houses?

Now houses , its now a dead end with very little space to turn even for a 4 seater car