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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 09 Jun 2017
In my opinion this was a fantastic night for Labour, and more importantly, a huge rejection of austerity and cuts from the electorate. They're sick of it, and a man that everyone had ruled down and out, has managed to engage a nation. His policies reached far and wide, they reached what people really felt, and for the first time, they got young adults amongst us to get involved in politics and vote. Turnout was high across the board.
Theresa May is finished. She has had to scrape the barrel and work with the DUP, as not even the Liberals would work with her now. She will be humiliated a couple of times in the Commons, and then confirm what we've known all along - she is no more "strong and stable" than a wet paper bag.
Labour need to keep building this momentum, because I don't think we will even have to wait 12 months to do this all over again.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Ds1197 - 09 Jun 2017
(09 Jun 2017, 8:39 pm)Adrian In my opinion this was a fantastic night for Labour, and more importantly, a huge rejection of austerity and cuts from the electorate. They're sick of it, and a man that everyone had ruled down and out, has managed to engage a nation. His policies reached far and wide, they reached what people really felt, and for the first time, they got young adults amongst us to get involved in politics and vote. Turnout was high across the board.
Theresa May is finished. She has had to scrape the barrel and work with the DUP, as not even the Liberals would work with her now. She will be humiliated a couple of times in the Commons, and then confirm what we've known all along - she is no more "strong and stable" than a wet paper bag.
Labour need to keep building this momentum, because I don't think we will even have to wait 12 months to do this all over again.
Quoting my mate here Theresa May Strong and Stable actually weak and wobbly
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 09 Jun 2017
It didn't take people long - spotted this on Twitter earlier: https://twitter.com/Jfarrers/status/873261514144272384
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017
(09 Jun 2017, 9:02 pm)Adrian It didn't take people long - spotted this on Twitter earlier: https://twitter.com/Jfarrers/status/873261514144272384
They're a scary bunch and I won't be surprised if the Tories us them to punish us for voting all wrong.
I saw someone describe their manifesto as the Bible with added bin collections. I'll not be best pleased if they start trying to stick their evil beaks into our relationships and reproductive rights.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 9:48 am)BusLoverMum They're a scary bunch and I won't be surprised if the Tories us them to punish us for voting all wrong.
I saw someone describe their manifesto as the Bible with added bin collections. I'll not be best pleased if they start trying to stick their evil beaks into our relationships and reproductive rights.
Yeah they are. They're a real dangerous bunch.
Sinn Fein are claiming that the Tory/DUP deal is in breach of the Good Friday Agreement, so that one should be interesting to follow!
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 10:51 am)Adrian Yeah they are. They're a real dangerous bunch.
Sinn Fein are claiming that the Tory/DUP deal is in breach of the Good Friday Agreement, so that one should be interesting to follow!
It is. Part of the GFA is that the UK government remains impartial and does nothing to appear to favour either side in NI.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 1:52 pm)BusLoverMum It is. Part of the GFA is that the UK government remains impartial and does nothing to appear to favour either side in NI.Was that Impartiality not meant for Stormont only???
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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 2:20 pm)MrFozz Was that Impartiality not meant for Stormont only???
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Well... It's all a bit delicate, already
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-northern-ireland-dup-votes-peace-process-a7519106.html
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017
This is an excellent post about how delicate the situation in NI is and how inflammatory the DUP's alliance with the Tories could be
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/09/will-theresa-mays-dup-coalition-bring-new-troubles-to-northern-ireland-sinn-fein/
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 7:44 pm)BusLoverMum This is an excellent post about how delicate the situation in NI is and how inflammatory the DUP's alliance with the Tories could beThe problem as I understand it is this...
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/09/will-theresa-mays-dup-coalition-bring-new-troubles-to-northern-ireland-sinn-fein/
To get Stormont back on track, the British and Irish Governments were to mediate between Sinn Fein and the DUP. The problem now being tje DUP are effectively in bed with the Government, so how can they remain impartial.
Could the answer not be, simply send somebody else to mediate, maybe her majesties opposition or have another outside government come in and mediate with the Irish to get Stormont.
Just makes it harder with the DUP now working with the Tories.
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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 8:10 pm)MrFozz The problem as I understand it is this...
To get Stormont back on track, the British and Irish Governments were to mediate between Sinn Fein and the DUP. The problem now being tje DUP are effectively in bed with the Government, so how can they remain impartial.
Could the answer not be, simply send somebody else to mediate, maybe her majesties opposition or have another outside government come in and mediate with the Irish to get Stormont.
Just makes it harder with the DUP now working with the Tories.
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The real problem comes if Stormont don't get back on track. If that happens, then all the devolved NI assembly responsibilities go back to Westminster. DUP would love that outcome, anyhow, but it wouldn't be in any way satisfactory for Sinn Fein. So that situation could end up with everyone back at square one, anyhow, but now DUP hold the balance of power at Westminster and the Conservatives will be doing everything they can to keep them onside.
The fact that such a high proportion of the NI population still votes along sectarian lines, regardless of the various regressive policies both the main parties have (Sinn Fein are actually socially more moderate than DUP as Ireland is socially more liberal than NI) and regardless of the push for more progressive party politics from some small groups (eg the Alliance party, who are affiliated with the lib dems) illustrates how so many people simply are not ready to let go and move on. There is still too much pain and there are probably still people alive who were born before the original, 1920, Bloody Sunday any many many others will be steeped in that history via their own parents and grandparents who will have been there, at the time.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - James101 - 10 Jun 2017
(09 Jun 2017, 10:05 am)LeeCalder Wouldn't be happy with the DUP to be honest, very, very controversial. They have insisted on blocking equal marriage rights consistently for the last five years in Northern Ireland.
There's a few Question Time clips online of various DUP represtatives getting eaten alive on this issue.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 10 Jun 2017
DUP are now saying a deal has not been done yet and talks are ongoing...
Sounds like a clusterf**k coming out of No.10 atm
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Deals are done...then there not, seems like Theresa Mays position is becoming more untenable by the hour...
Seems clear to me, I would not trust her to take care of a dog right now, never mind a country.
It pains me to say so and I am in mo way a supporter of the Labour Party, I am warming more to Jeremy Corbyn, and I believe right now, he is the only man capable of running the country
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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Jamie M - 10 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 11:37 pm)MrFozz DUP are now saying a deal has not been done yet and talks are ongoing...I agree with everything you say, entirely.
Sounds like a clusterf**k coming out of No.10 atm
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Deals are done...then there not, seems like Theresa Mays position is becoming more untenable by the hour...
Seems clear to me, I would not trust her to take care of a dog right now, never mind a country.
It pains me to say so and I am in mo way a supporter of the Labour Party, I am warming more to Jeremy Corbyn, and I believe right now, he is the only man capable of running the country
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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 11 Jun 2017
(10 Jun 2017, 11:37 pm)MrFozz DUP are now saying a deal has not been done yet and talks are ongoing...
Sounds like a clusterf**k coming out of No.10 atm
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Deals are done...then there not, seems like Theresa Mays position is becoming more untenable by the hour...
Seems clear to me, I would not trust her to take care of a dog right now, never mind a country.
It pains me to say so and I am in mo way a supporter of the Labour Party, I am warming more to Jeremy Corbyn, and I believe right now, he is the only man capable of running the country
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Yes, I've never quite been sure of him and I certainly don't agree with everything he says, but there is something rather zen and steadfast about him.
And he can eat food without looking awkward!
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 05 Jul 2017
I'd always thought that Guy Opperman was a bit of a git, but this sums him up for me - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/shame-you-fury-tory-minister-10744548
Robbed blindly by the Government in broad daylight, then having an Apprenticeship suggested to you, in order to go someway to filling that gap left behind.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 30 Jul 2017
https://twitter.com/Redlabour2016/status/891044366457942021
Poor Phil!
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 31 Jul 2017
(30 Jul 2017, 7:59 pm)Adrian https://twitter.com/Redlabour2016/status/891044366457942021
Poor Phil!
The comments are ace. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him. He burnt his bridges with me a while back.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 07 Sep 2017
So, we have a local council election coming up.
We've heard from the first candidate - Maurice Brown. Lives in the ward and stand for "local jobs, for local people". He clearly believes strongly in this principle because it's stated in bold type on the glossy leaflet he had printed in Southend-on-sea.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 18 Sep 2017
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-labour-manifesto-renationalisation-rail-energy-banks-europe-a7731961.html
An interesting read.