(23 Aug 2017, 2:45 pm)omnicity4659 Surely E200 MMCs would be a more superior option than StreetLites?

(23 Aug 2017, 2:34 pm)Stuartphin1639 Obviously not but there absolutely shocking, haven't they learnt that the X1 ones are always off the road, more to the point where are the pulsars going off there? Possibly MAX for X26/27/66/67/75/76


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(23 Aug 2017, 3:44 pm)Jimmi Well Omnicities are supposedly being replaced next year, so that could well be a possibility, number of non MAX/Sapphire spec Pulsar's at Darlington at the moment is 16, so that could make 14 for X26/X27, X66/X67, X75/X76 (not lncluding a spare) but that would only leave two left for the 8/8A although the question as to what livery specification would they be in with all the new Arriva liveries and logo coming in? 

Still got the Cadets at Stockton and Volvo B10BLE's at Jesmond to replace, so there could be a possibility the Pulsar's  could head there as well (maybe?)

Could be a possibility of new buses for at least one of the: X26/X27, X66/X67, X75/X76 as well (speculation).

Wonder if Arriva would even consider more EcoCity's for Darlington?

(23 Aug 2017, 3:54 pm)mb134 If Arriva plan on replacing those with Streetlites, they better invest in a tow truck to go alongside. In no way are they built for express routes.

(23 Aug 2017, 3:59 pm)Dan Go North East's Streetlites seem to cope fairly well on long-distance and demanding routes? The 8/78 and 20/20A/X20 spring to mind as being the most demanding.

I don't profess to be completely familiar with the services at Darlington, but I can't imagine them being too dissimilar from the aforementioned Go North East services?

(23 Aug 2017, 3:59 pm)Dan Go North East's Streetlites seem to cope fairly well on long-distance and demanding routes? The 8/78 and 20/20A/X20 spring to mind as being the most demanding.

I don't profess to be completely familiar with the services at Darlington, but I can't imagine them being too dissimilar from the aforementioned Go North East services?

(23 Aug 2017, 4:04 pm)mb134 Was thinking more in terms of the ones based at Ashington. I've been on a Streetlite operated X18 (418) before, and it struggled for a good amount of the route.

(23 Aug 2017, 4:20 pm)Jimmi I'd say that the X26/X27 & X75/X76 are somewhat similar in terms of demands for routes although the X66/X67 are a bit more duel carriageway road blastings, the Middlesbrough - Saltburn stretch of the X3/X4 routes would probably be a better comparison and whilst the StreetLite's can sit at 50mph easily enough,  I think you would maybe have to add a little bit of extra running time to these services to ensure that they have enough running time, even the worst Omnicity's branded for the X66/X67 allocation can manage about 55mph, so I think a bus limited to 50mph may not be the best fit, EcoCity's manage 52mph, unsure about E200 MMC's but think it may me more than both of them? 

One thing I will say about both demonstrators, just because they are trialing them, doesn't necessarily mean any will actually be purchased, no Optare Versa's or Mercedes Citaro's were purchased for Arriva North East after trials at North East depots in the past.

(23 Aug 2017, 4:46 pm)mb134 Yeah this is a good point. If you look at the routes 4653/9 are allocated onto at Ashington, the main place they can make up time is along dual carriageway stretches. If you suddenly allocate buses that can only just keep to time along those stretches, you're asking for trouble.

I definitely agree that just because they're on demonstration doesn't mean that we'll see Streetdecks and Streetlites in next year's order, but the fact they've decided to trial the Streetdeck on the Alnwick expresses is concerning.

(23 Aug 2017, 4:55 pm)Jimmi At least the StreetDeck is being trialled on some demanding routes rather than just being trialled 
on a town/city route and then they buy them for these demanding routes and hope they perform alright on them.

(23 Aug 2017, 4:20 pm)Jimmi I'd say that the X26/X27 & X75/X76 are somewhat similar in terms of demands for routes although the X66/X67 are a bit more duel carriageway road blastings, the Middlesbrough - Saltburn stretch of the X3/X4 routes would probably be a better comparison and whilst the StreetLite's can sit at 50mph easily enough,  I think you would maybe have to add a little bit of extra running time to these services to ensure that they have enough running time, even the worst Omnicity's branded for the X66/X67 allocation can manage about 55mph, so I think a bus limited to 50mph may not be the best fit, EcoCity's manage 52mph, unsure about E200 MMC's but think it may me more than both of them? 

(23 Aug 2017, 2:45 pm)omnicity4659 Surely E200 MMCs would be a more superior option than StreetLites?

(23 Aug 2017, 8:20 pm)RobinHood Darlington are getting 13 new Streetlites for See 1/5/12/19 next year.

The Pulsars will be offloaded to Stockton and Durham (replace SB120s and Streetlites - allow Sapphire for Service 23 with Pulsars and Streetlites to Newcastle).

X26 isn't even considered at this point. The Scanias are not due off until 2020 - fifteen years of life.

(23 Aug 2017, 8:20 pm)RobinHood Darlington are getting 13 new Streetlites for Ser 1/5/12/19 next year in Sapphire spec.

The DD recently moved from Durham will remain generic, for use il on both, primarily the busy BA college runs on Service 5.

The Pulsars will be offloaded to Stockton and Durham (replace SB120s and Streetlites - allow Sapphire for Service 23 with Pulsars and Streetlites to Newcastle).

X26 isn't even considered at this point. The Scanias are not due off until 2020 - fifteen years of life.

(25 Aug 2017, 2:52 pm)Jimmi Demonstrator StreetLite SK17HHL has entered passenger service at Darlington depot today on the 1/5/5A/12 circuit. It's currently on the 14:42 5 to Darlington Town Centre.
Arriva North East: SK17HHL by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr