Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2015
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2015
(11 Oct 2015, 4:26 pm)citaro5284 I am pleased you are noticing these things with you being the destination inspector
(11 Oct 2015, 4:26 pm)citaro5284 I am pleased you are noticing these things with you being the destination inspector
(11 Oct 2015, 4:36 pm)Michael Mint, what needs to be done to them, just installing the radio etc?
I read that 6132 had gained GNE seats but still had to be repainted.
(11 Oct 2015, 4:39 pm)S813 FVK More of the massive destinations in the current Omnidekkas? Quite like them tbh. Suits them well.
Why would GNE put modest Scanias on a service then months down the line, take them off and replace them with older vehicles? I've worked it out on the following terms below, that GNE could well end up amalgamating the section of the current 11 between Blackmall Hill and Crawcrook into the TEN group of services in the near futureand see no PVR increase during Monday to Saturday daytime. I haven't worked an evening and Sunday service out yet though but for Monday to Saturday, it would be the following:
- 10 remaining the same with a PVR of 6x B9TLs not interworking operated by Hexham.
- 10B renumbered 10A but otherwise remaining the same but with a PVR of 4x B9TLs not interworking operated by Riverside.
- NEW 10B operating the same route as the current 10A to Greenside then the same route as the 11 to Blackhall Mill.
- 10A renumbered 10C but operating via the current 11 route between Crawcrook and Greenside.
- Services 10B and 10C would operate with a PVR of 7x vehicles by Riverside and if GNE wanted to reduce costs, they could opt to use Streetlites on the 10B / 10C if any could be sourced for a decent price. This would include 1x spare available at Riverside too purchased on top of the 7x which would be TEN branded.
- Service 96 operating standalone with a PVR of 3x Scanias by Riverside. No other changes to this service.
- The only consideration would be driver changeovers for the 96 and the Q3 interworking pattern during the mornings.
This would mean the following for passengers:
- Bus up to every 15 minutes (give or take a minute or 2) between Prudhoe and Newcastle.
- 4x Buses per hour from Greenside to Newcastle.
- Buses up to every 7-8 minutes between Crawcrook, Metrocentre and Newcastle.
- Passengers would be required to change in Blaydon for buses to Scotswood Road / Newcastle Business Park off peak.
- Peak time service 11A would still run from Prudhoe to Newcastle via the Business Park.
The surplus 4x B9TL's could then do the following:
- 6071(T), 6082, 6083, 6084(T) operate Red Kite service 47 to bring it in line with the 45 / 46 (minus leather seating). However, if a VOR occurs on the TTX or the service needed regulated, then either of the 2x Tachographed vehicles would have to be swapped with a spare B7TL or B9TL.
- 6118 and 6119 would act as spare vehicles at Riverside or Hexham alongside 3941 and 3942.
- 6120 and 6121 would move to Chester Le Street to compensate for the increased PVR of the Angel after the B5LHs were ordered.
- 3963 and 3964 would transfer to Percy Main for DFDS work allowing non DDA compliant 3866 and 3867 to be withdrawn.
- 3962 and 3965 would act as designated spares for the Angel.
(11 Oct 2015, 5:09 pm)DaveyBowyer Why would GNE put modest Scanias on a service then months down the line, take them off and replace them with older vehicles? I've worked it out on the following terms below, that GNE could well end up amalgamating the section of the current 11 between Blackmall Hill and Crawcrook into the TEN group of services in the near futureand see no PVR increase during Monday to Saturday daytime. I haven't worked an evening and Sunday service out yet though but for Monday to Saturday, it would be the following:
(11 Oct 2015, 5:09 pm)DaveyBowyer Why would GNE put modest Scanias on a service then months down the line, take them off and replace them with older vehicles? I've worked it out on the following terms below, that GNE could well end up amalgamating the section of the current 11 between Blackmall Hill and Crawcrook into the TEN group of services in the near futureand see no PVR increase during Monday to Saturday daytime. I haven't worked an evening and Sunday service out yet though but for Monday to Saturday, it would be the following:
(11 Oct 2015, 5:30 pm)Michael Honestly no idea but that's what it looks like, its not confirmed but it looks like they will... unless the 11/96 are to get new/newer buses in future... maybe Dan or Citaro can explain why?
(11 Oct 2015, 5:30 pm)Michael Honestly no idea but that's what it looks like, its not confirmed but it looks like they will... unless the 11/96 are to get new/newer buses in future... maybe Dan or Citaro can explain why?
(11 Oct 2015, 5:54 pm)DaveyBowyer I think that they could well do that eventually but they wouldn't do it now because:
- There are no suitable buses.
- Even if there was, it would be too risky making a significant change to the TEN services so close to christmas where any potential reliability issues could cause havoc particularly owning to the Metrocentre and Newcastle.
(11 Oct 2015, 5:54 pm)DaveyBowyer I think that they could well do that eventually but they wouldn't do it now because:
- There are no suitable buses.
- Even if there was, it would be too risky making a significant change to the TEN services so close to christmas where any potential reliability issues could cause havoc particularly owning to the Metrocentre and Newcastle.
Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm)Michael Always 2nd hand buses, London are getting rid of some, although not sure how many of these are leased and if the company who leases them are willing to sell them on.
The TEN won't change for a while i think, if they wanted any big changes it would of happened in the upcoming changes.
Email GNE your ideas though
(11 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm)Michael Always 2nd hand buses, London are getting rid of some, although not sure how many of these are leased and if the company who leases them are willing to sell them on.
The TEN won't change for a while i think, if they wanted any big changes it would of happened in the upcoming changes.
Email GNE your ideas though
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.Didn't mention the 27s or 58.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.Didn't mention the 27s or 58.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:14 pm)Michael Ye wonder why they decided not to include the 11/96 in the brand?
Like others have said the light blue mercs are likely for the 57, hopefully allowing the 5 current ones on the 57 to replace the 1999 ones... once again this is unconfirmed and just speculation.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:14 pm)Michael Ye wonder why they decided not to include the 11/96 in the brand?
Like others have said the light blue mercs are likely for the 57, hopefully allowing the 5 current ones on the 57 to replace the 1999 ones... once again this is unconfirmed and just speculation.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm)B10man Away from speculation at the moment due to the relatively last minute annoucement that the 11/96 is no longer going to be toon link livery bus nothing has been confirmed and discussion still under way as to what to find for the 11/96 services. It could be the blue mercs but its unlikely.
Nothing is going to happen with the service 10's there are not going to put streetlites on them or change the service. Reason, because 10s,10A,10B all work fine the way they are. The 27s is not going to get double deckers any time soon niether is the 58s.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:30 pm)thetravelman I wonder whether GNE will actually use a specific vehicle type now that the 11/96 are not part of the Toon Link brand, or whether the services will be operated by various vehicle types of which are Red Corporate liveried vehicles.
With the fact that the 11 is no longer part of Toon Link, but the Stanley services X30, X31, X32 are joining Toon Link Brand, along with the 12 and 12a Winlaton services, is there currently enough Omnicities to cover the whole Toon Link PVR's or are there some to be painted and branded up. I'm guessing the vehicles GNE are saving from service 11, won' t be enough for the PVR of the X30, X31, X32.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:30 pm)thetravelman I wonder whether GNE will actually use a specific vehicle type now that the 11/96 are not part of the Toon Link brand, or whether the services will be operated by various vehicle types of which are Red Corporate liveried vehicles.
With the fact that the 11 is no longer part of Toon Link, but the Stanley services X30, X31, X32 are joining Toon Link Brand, along with the 12 and 12a Winlaton services, is there currently enough Omnicities to cover the whole Toon Link PVR's or are there some to be painted and branded up. I'm guessing the vehicles GNE are saving from service 11, won' t be enough for the PVR of the X30, X31, X32.
(11 Oct 2015, 6:28 pm)S813 FVK I don't see what difference a year would make (ie 2000 renowns replacing the 1999 ones). I'd imagine the Fab 57 renowns will get withdrawn directly (that is if the Citaros do replace them).
(11 Oct 2015, 6:28 pm)S813 FVK I don't see what difference a year would make (ie 2000 renowns replacing the 1999 ones). I'd imagine the Fab 57 renowns will get withdrawn directly (that is if the Citaros do replace them).