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(30 Mar 2017, 3:08 pm)Jamie M wrote It's like the 45N/46A/97B etc. They are journeys which only alter slightly for maybe a trip and putting up a display for a journey that's 95% similar is confusing. The displays scroll the altered destination, but I guess it's too minor to actually warrant a route number variation.

I think it has been done more from a ticketing perspective than anything else due to the stops served being slightly different.

(30 Mar 2017, 3:10 pm)S813 FVK wrote

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I think it has been done more from a ticketing perspective than anything else due to the stops served being slightly different.

Probably. I'm not sure why the via points are editted without the route number being touched though. Always found it odd.

(30 Mar 2017, 4:16 pm)Jamie M wrote Probably. I'm not sure why the via points are editted without the route number being touched though. Always found it odd.

The service is still registered as '6', so '6' must be shown on the destination display.

What drivers input into their ticket machines and destination controllers in order to show the correct via points and issue tickets with a different faretable does not have to marry up with the number the service is registered as, as only members of staff employed by Go North East see this internally.

So I would assume that this '6A' is something different - as it's becoming a registered service...

(30 Mar 2017, 4:22 pm)Dan wrote So I would assume that this '6A' is something different - as it's becoming a registered service...

I thought it might be to replace the V7/V8 through tanfield but with the M6/M7 & M8 being registered who knows.

(30 Mar 2017, 7:21 pm)GX03 wrote I thought it might be to replace the V7/V8 through tanfield but with the M6/M7 & M8 being registered who knows.

Have the V7/V8 been formally cancelled in vosa yet? I didn't see an actual record for them. There's too much information to draw any conclusion right now in my eyes haha.

(30 Mar 2017, 7:23 pm)Jamie M wrote Have the V7/V8 been formally cancelled in vosa yet? I didn't see an actual record for them. There's too much information to draw any conclusion right now in my eyes haha.

Only a matter of time before they appear imo, not going to run the m6-m8 and the V7/V8, then run the 6 & 6A , not that many passengers to go around!!!!!!!

(30 Mar 2017, 8:17 pm)GX03 wrote Only a matter of time before they appear imo, not going to run the m6-m8 and the V7/V8, then run the 6 & 6A , not that many passengers to go around!!!!!!!

They'll have the red engineer vans on the road before we know it with 706 being introduced!
Imagine one of them turning up with the number 6 spray painted onto the top panel...

(30 Mar 2017, 8:42 pm)Jamie M wrote They'll have the red engineer vans on the road before we know it with 706 being introduced!
Imagine one of them turning up with the number 6 spray painted onto the top panel...

Not much different to the DCC 216, in that case! I'm sure they've exceeded the 20 day grace period on some of their vehicles on that service by now.

(30 Mar 2017, 7:21 pm)GX03 wrote I thought it might be to replace the V7/V8 through tanfield but with the M6/M7 & M8 being registered who knows.

Should really be the MC1, MC2 and MC4, going back almost 9 years . Of course there was nothing 'MC' about the MC4 the first time but, assuming that the 704 will now be merged with a current V7/V8 from Metrocentre, there will be.

(30 Mar 2017, 1:49 pm)Michael wrote So far it looks like the V7/V8 will be replaced by the M6, M7,M8 but a 3rd service has appeared so not sure.

Looks like most of the Venture network is changing, far too early to say what they are, those VOSA posts on the page give nothing away, the detailed ones are normally sent out in an email. 

With a new or adapted livery for the 'M' series?

(30 Mar 2017, 9:52 pm)Andreos1 wrote With a new or adapted livery for the 'M' series?

I think theyll try to take as much as the time off the 6 as they can for the M6. I think we'll see sunniside estate and lintz be donated to the M6. Currently nothing on sunniside front street serves metrocentre, so I feel the 6/6a will follow the X30 down sunniside to whickham, rejoin with the M6 on broom lane and continue as normal.

I think the 6a will operate hobson, whereas the 6 operates pickering nook, syke road straight to burnopfield front street.

Branding for the new M6 service seems pointless, especially given I am going to hazard a guess at it being minibus work.

(30 Mar 2017, 10:03 pm)Jamie M wrote I think theyll try to take as much as the time off the 6 as they can for the M6. I think we'll see sunniside estate and lintz be donated to the M6. Currently nothing on sunniside front street serves metrocentre, so I feel the 6/6a will follow the X30 down sunniside to whickham, rejoin with the M6 on broom lane and continue as normal.

I think the 6a will operate hobson, whereas the 6 operates pickering nook, syke road straight to burnopfield front street.

Branding for the new M6 service seems pointless, especially given I am going to hazard a guess at it being minibus work.

It could explain why 710-714 left Saltmeadows without a livery...

Whilst I had no official lines that indicated there were going to be changes to the Stanley network; the fleet revisions and allocation of unbranded vehicles to the depot definitely hinted at it.

The 'V' numbering system is built around the Venture network on Derwentside.
For a specific number of unbranded vehicles allocated to a soon to be 'M' numbering system, that doesn't link directly to the core of the 'V' network, definitely (to me anyway), hints of a branding amendment of some sort.

(31 Mar 2017, 7:30 am)Andreos1 wrote It could explain why 710-714 left Saltmeadows without a livery...

Whilst I had no official lines that indicated there were going to be changes to the Stanley network; the fleet revisions and allocation of unbranded vehicles to the depot definitely hinted at it.

The 'V' numbering system is built around the Venture network on Derwentside.
For a specific number of vehicles allocated to a soon to be 'M' numbering system, that doesn't link directly to the core of the 'V' network, definitely (to me anyway), hints of a branding amendment of some sort.

Aren't they busy enough at the livery design committee, creating a new brand for those red solars?

(31 Mar 2017, 7:55 am)Jamie M wrote Aren't they busy enough at the livery design committee, creating a new brand for those red solars?

I'm still waiting for the big bang, when the livery design committees' jaws hit the table - after being told about a depot called Deptford

(30 Mar 2017, 10:03 pm)Jamie M wrote Branding for the new M6 service seems pointless, especially given I am going to hazard a guess at it being minibus work.

Judging by the registrations, I think the M6 will be the 704 and a V7/V8 journey from Metrocentre merged into one operating on late evenings as the 704 does now.

(31 Mar 2017, 3:02 pm)S813 FVK wrote Judging by the registrations, I think the M6 will be the 704 and a V7/V8 journey from Metrocentre merged into one operating on late evenings as the 704 does now.

V7 & V8 are being replaced by M7 & M8, M6 is replacing the 704 and going a little further.

(31 Mar 2017, 3:10 pm)GX03 wrote V7 & V8 are being replaced by M7 & M8, M6 is replacing the 704 and going a little further.

A little further? The registration says Metrocentre to South Stanley (where the 704 currently runs via), unless it is going down to Hollyhill Gardens etc instead of just Avon Road.

(31 Mar 2017, 3:17 pm)S813 FVK wrote A little further? The registration says Metrocentre to South Stanley (where the 704 currently runs via), unless it is going down to Hollyhill Gardens etc instead of just Avon Road.

I think one will turn left at the end of avon towards south moor.

(31 Mar 2017, 3:23 pm)Jamie M wrote I think one will turn left at the end of avon towards south moor.

It's doable, but that left turn is quite tight (the SRs would be much more suited to it than the ex-GCB vehicles).

I think the best way to do it is to make it go along Avon Road in the opposite direction, omitting Tyne Road, down Durham Road, into Hollyhill Gardens and across to South Moor that way if that was to be the case.

(31 Mar 2017, 3:26 pm)S813 FVK wrote It's doable, but that left turn is quite tight (the SRs would be much more suited to it than the ex-GCB vehicles).

I think the best way to do it is to make it go along Avon Road in the opposite direction, omitting Tyne Road, down Durham Road, into Hollyhill Gardens and across to South Moor that way if that was to be the case.

Any bus could turn left out of Avon road, just gotta make sure to leave enough space. What would happen if there was a 16 heading to Stanley and there was an accident to the right so the bus had to turn left?. Is the timetable of the 704 going to be copied or changed?

(31 Mar 2017, 3:34 pm)GX03 wrote Any bus could turn left out of Avon road, just gotta make sure to leave enough space. What would happen if there was a 16 heading to Stanley and there was an accident to the right so the bus had to turn left?. Is the timetable of the 704 going to be copied or changed?

I never said it couldn't be done or was impossible, I just commented on it being tight although having been on google maps streetview, it doesn't look as bad as it did in my head.

(30 Mar 2017, 9:46 am)Kuyoyo wrote PB0003954/690 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Great Park Village, Waggonway Drive to Wallsend Metro
Service number: Q3
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 May 2017

What are they doing now?

Hearing big rumours, that changes to the 21 are in the pipeline.

The hybrids are off to another route and new vehicles will be allocated to the 21, with a return of the 21A and a new X23.

The 21A will run as it did previously.
The 21 will continue running to Durham.
The X23 will be an express service to Newcastle, originating from Langley Park and looping around Waldridge Park Est, before operating a limited stop service to Newcastle like the X21.

(01 Apr 2017, 8:26 am)Andreos1 wrote Hearing big rumours, that changes to the 21 are in the pipeline.

The hybrids are off to another route and new vehicles will be allocated to the 21, with a return of the 21A and a new X23.

The 21A will run as it did previously.
The 21 will continue running to Durham.
The X23 will be an express service to Newcastle, originating from Langley Park and looping around Waldridge Park Est, before operating a limited stop service to Newcastle like the X21.

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(01 Apr 2017, 8:26 am)Andreos1 wrote Hearing big rumours, that changes to the 21 are in the pipeline.

The hybrids are off to another route and new vehicles will be allocated to the 21, with a return of the 21A and a new X23.

The 21A will run as it did previously.
The 21 will continue running to Durham.
The X23 will be an express service to Newcastle, originating from Langley Park and looping around Waldridge Park Est, before operating a limited stop service to Newcastle like the X21.

So like an express version of the x25?

(01 Apr 2017, 8:40 am)Drifter5370 wrote So like an express version of the x25?

Look at the date...

(16 Mar 2017, 11:57 pm)markydh wrote 1, 1A, 309 & 310 route and timetable changes from 30th April confirmed on VOSA, today.

http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/c...ril-233915

Nothing for the 309/310 yet though.

(07 Apr 2017, 3:30 pm)Tom wrote http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/c...ril-233915

Nothing for the 309/310 yet though.

Nothing is changing in Northumberland according to NCC.

PB0002400/625 Registered
GO NORTHERN LTD
Route: Chester-Le-Street, Ropery Lane, Durham County Cricket Ground to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: 21
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 09 Jun 2017

I assume this will be for the Rod Stewart concert at the Durham County Cricket Ground.

(11 Apr 2017, 9:24 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote PB0002400/625 Registered
GO NORTHERN LTD
Route: Chester-Le-Street, Ropery Lane, Durham County Cricket Ground to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: 21
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 09 Jun 2017

I assume this will be for the Rod Stewart concert at the Durham County Cricket Ground.

I'd have thought they would be sailing.