Politics (and other political stuff)
Politics (and other political stuff)
Universal Basic Income scheme to be trailed in Jarrow:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023...in-england
(04 Jun 2023, 4:17 pm)MurdnunoC Universal Basic Income scheme to be trailed in Jarrow:Is that irony or just purely crass...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023...in-england
(04 Jun 2023, 4:17 pm)MurdnunoC Universal Basic Income scheme to be trailed in Jarrow:Is that irony or just purely crass...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023...in-england
(22 May 2024, 8:22 pm)Andreos1 GE called for July.
Hope the tories sink in to the political abyss. Never to be seen again.
(22 May 2024, 8:28 pm)54APhotography Agree entirely, no doubt there's plenty of Gammons up here that will once again turn traitor to their region and vote for them or worse Reform.
(22 May 2024, 8:28 pm)54APhotography Agree entirely, no doubt there's plenty of Gammons up here that will once again turn traitor to their region and vote for them or worse Reform.
(22 May 2024, 10:06 pm)ASX_Terranova Does it actually matter who's in No.10, they won't get anything done anyway due to being undermined by other MP's with different agendas.
(22 May 2024, 10:06 pm)ASX_Terranova Does it actually matter who's in No.10, they won't get anything done anyway due to being undermined by other MP's with different agendas.
Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
(23 May 2024, 11:53 am)Adrian The one thing I'd say to that, as I don't necessarily disagree with you (rare, I know!), is sometimes you need to redecorate.You can redecorate to your hearts content, but the day after the damp patches are going to show right back up!
Voting back in probably one of the worst Governments that we've ever seen, will be seen as nothing but a resounding endorsement for that level of awfulness.
(23 May 2024, 11:53 am)Adrian The one thing I'd say to that, as I don't necessarily disagree with you (rare, I know!), is sometimes you need to redecorate.You can redecorate to your hearts content, but the day after the damp patches are going to show right back up!
Voting back in probably one of the worst Governments that we've ever seen, will be seen as nothing but a resounding endorsement for that level of awfulness.
(23 May 2024, 12:28 pm)streetdeckfan You can redecorate to your hearts content, but the day after the damp patches are going to show right back up!
I suppose in one respect the Tory supporters shouldn't really be too worried given that Starmer isn't far off the current government!
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(23 May 2024, 12:28 pm)streetdeckfan You can redecorate to your hearts content, but the day after the damp patches are going to show right back up!
I suppose in one respect the Tory supporters shouldn't really be too worried given that Starmer isn't far off the current government!
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(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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(23 May 2024, 10:38 pm)mb134 It's quite simply not true to say that the only thing that separates them is colour. The "Country First, Party Second" messaging that Labour have been putting out is an immediate difference, the Conservatives have pretty much been putting party first since 2016/7.
The only people who think this Labour party are the same as the Conservatives are either people on the far right who want to justify their vote for Reform UK, or people on the far left who are still sad Corbyn failed to win (twice).
Labour, at least going into this election, can't be too bold in my view. If they go too far left of centre (or if their messaging comes across that way) then they potentially lose the votes of the people in the centre who get them the majority. You can be as left wing as you want in a manifesto but it means sod all if it scares the public/makes you an easy target for the Daily Mail, and we saw the result of that in 2019. You only get to change things if you actually win.
(23 May 2024, 10:38 pm)mb134 It's quite simply not true to say that the only thing that separates them is colour. The "Country First, Party Second" messaging that Labour have been putting out is an immediate difference, the Conservatives have pretty much been putting party first since 2016/7.
The only people who think this Labour party are the same as the Conservatives are either people on the far right who want to justify their vote for Reform UK, or people on the far left who are still sad Corbyn failed to win (twice).
Labour, at least going into this election, can't be too bold in my view. If they go too far left of centre (or if their messaging comes across that way) then they potentially lose the votes of the people in the centre who get them the majority. You can be as left wing as you want in a manifesto but it means sod all if it scares the public/makes you an easy target for the Daily Mail, and we saw the result of that in 2019. You only get to change things if you actually win.
(23 May 2024, 10:38 pm)mb134 It's quite simply not true to say that the only thing that separates them is colour. The "Country First, Party Second" messaging that Labour have been putting out is an immediate difference, the Conservatives have pretty much been putting party first since 2016/7.
The only people who think this Labour party are the same as the Conservatives are either people on the far right who want to justify their vote for Reform UK, or people on the far left who are still sad Corbyn failed to win (twice).
Labour, at least going into this election, can't be too bold in my view. If they go too far left of centre (or if their messaging comes across that way) then they potentially lose the votes of the people in the centre who get them the majority. You can be as left wing as you want in a manifesto but it means sod all if it scares the public/makes you an easy target for the Daily Mail, and we saw the result of that in 2019. You only get to change things if you actually win.
(23 May 2024, 10:38 pm)mb134 It's quite simply not true to say that the only thing that separates them is colour. The "Country First, Party Second" messaging that Labour have been putting out is an immediate difference, the Conservatives have pretty much been putting party first since 2016/7.
The only people who think this Labour party are the same as the Conservatives are either people on the far right who want to justify their vote for Reform UK, or people on the far left who are still sad Corbyn failed to win (twice).
Labour, at least going into this election, can't be too bold in my view. If they go too far left of centre (or if their messaging comes across that way) then they potentially lose the votes of the people in the centre who get them the majority. You can be as left wing as you want in a manifesto but it means sod all if it scares the public/makes you an easy target for the Daily Mail, and we saw the result of that in 2019. You only get to change things if you actually win.
For reference to my by-election point.
Blackpool South - CON to LAB
2024: 10,825 (58.9%) LAB, 3,218 (17.5%) CON - 32.5% turnout
2019: 12,557 (38.3%) LAB, 16,247 (49.6%) CON - 56.8% turnout
Labour vote down 1,732
Rochdale - LAB to WPB
2024: 2,402 (7.7%) LAB, 3,731 (12.0%) CON, 12,335 (39.7%) WPB - 39.7% turnout
2019: 24,475 (51.6%) LAB, 14,807 (31.2%) CON, No WPB - 60.1% turnout
Labour vote down 22,073
Kingswood - CON to LAB
2024: 11,176 (44.9%) LAB, 8,675 (34.9%) CON - 37.1% turnout
2019: 16,492 (33.4%) LAB, 27,712 (56.2%) CON - 71.5% turnout
Labour vote down 5,316
Wellingborough - CON to LAB
2024: 13,844 (45.9%) LAB, 7,408 (24.6%) CON - 38.0% turnout
2019: 13,737 (26.5%) LAB, 32,277 (62.2%) CON - 64.3% turnout
Labour vote down 6,329
Tamworth - CON to LAB
2023: 11,719 (45.8%) LAB, 10,403 (40.7%) CON - 35.9% turnout
2019: 10,908 (23.7%) LAB, 30,542 (66.3%) CON - 64.3% turnout
Labour vote up by 811.
Mid Beds - CON to LAB
2023: 13,872 (34.1%) LAB, 12,680 (31.1%) CON - 44.1% turnout
2019: 14,028 (21.7%) LAB, 38,692 (59.8%) CON - 73.7% turnout
Labour vote down by 156
(23 May 2024, 6:48 pm)Andreos1 It needs more than a titivation
(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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(23 May 2024, 6:48 am)streetdeckfan Anyone who thinks things will get better under Labour are as deluded as the people who think the Tories are doing a great job.
They're all much of a muchness, the only thing that separates them is the colour.
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