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21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am
Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?
NK53 TKT
21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am #701

Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?

DanPicken
Banned
2177
21 Oct 2015, 6:36 am
(21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am)NK53 TKT Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?

The 95/96 etc
DanPicken
21 Oct 2015, 6:36 am #702

(21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am)NK53 TKT Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?

The 95/96 etc

21 Oct 2015, 8:23 am
(21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am)NK53 TKT Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?


As far as I'm aware they are only allocated to scholars then they sit spare in the depot and a couple at gateshead until needed on service work to cover breakdowns etc
Transbus574
21 Oct 2015, 8:23 am #703

(21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am)NK53 TKT Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?


As far as I'm aware they are only allocated to scholars then they sit spare in the depot and a couple at gateshead until needed on service work to cover breakdowns etc

10979
21 Oct 2015, 8:33 am
If anyone sees the StreetDeck on the X9/X10 today, let me know.
Jimmi
21 Oct 2015, 8:33 am #704

If anyone sees the StreetDeck on the X9/X10 today, let me know.

21 Oct 2015, 8:58 am
Hey Dan/Citaro: appreciate there's a limit to requests, but would it be possible to think about changing the number colour on either the 20 or the 50?

The more aged folks (and also some younguns!) at shields have difficulty distinguishing between a blue/purple bus showing "Durham" as the destination, when there's also a similarly coloured number (which can be easily transposed in some peoples minds...)

Perhaps moreso when it's a red spares allocation?

Ta
JakeSavage
21 Oct 2015, 8:58 am #705

Hey Dan/Citaro: appreciate there's a limit to requests, but would it be possible to think about changing the number colour on either the 20 or the 50?

The more aged folks (and also some younguns!) at shields have difficulty distinguishing between a blue/purple bus showing "Durham" as the destination, when there's also a similarly coloured number (which can be easily transposed in some peoples minds...)

Perhaps moreso when it's a red spares allocation?

Ta

Diamond One
Banned
1793
21 Oct 2015, 10:25 am
(21 Oct 2015, 8:33 am)Jimmi If anyone sees the StreetDeck on the X9/X10 today, let me know.

If I can connect to a wifi am sure Dan will let us know the streetdeck timetable from Newcastle and Middlesbrough end am hoping which running board it's on today
Diamond One
21 Oct 2015, 10:25 am #706

(21 Oct 2015, 8:33 am)Jimmi If anyone sees the StreetDeck on the X9/X10 today, let me know.

If I can connect to a wifi am sure Dan will let us know the streetdeck timetable from Newcastle and Middlesbrough end am hoping which running board it's on today

19181
21 Oct 2015, 11:37 am
5406?, is currently heading down towards Washington with the destination saying Sunderland... when its heading towards Stanley...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 Oct 2015, 11:37 am #707

5406?, is currently heading down towards Washington with the destination saying Sunderland... when its heading towards Stanley...


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

21 Oct 2015, 11:49 am
(21 Oct 2015, 11:37 am)Michael 5406?, is currently heading down towards Washington with the destination saying Sunderland... when its heading towards Stanley...

Simple driver error. I'm sure when it gets to Chester-le-Street, it will be rectified.
R852 PRG
21 Oct 2015, 11:49 am #708

(21 Oct 2015, 11:37 am)Michael 5406?, is currently heading down towards Washington with the destination saying Sunderland... when its heading towards Stanley...

Simple driver error. I'm sure when it gets to Chester-le-Street, it will be rectified.

Dan
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18138
21 Oct 2015, 12:15 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am)NK53 TKT Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?

(21 Oct 2015, 8:23 am)Transbus574 As far as I'm aware they are only allocated to scholars then they sit spare in the depot and a couple at gateshead until needed on service work to cover breakdowns etc

One running board on services 64/64A and 95/96 is covered by a dual-door Volvo B7TL at the moment and all others are on scholars (some of which do interwork with some 'normal' services). Two Volvo B7TLs are parked up at Gateshead Interchange during the day, in between scholars.


(21 Oct 2015, 8:33 am)Jimmi If anyone sees the StreetDeck on the X9/X10 today, let me know.

It won't be on services X9/X10 this afternoon.


(21 Oct 2015, 8:58 am)JakeSavage Hey Dan/Citaro: appreciate there's a limit to requests, but would it be possible to think about changing the number colour on either the 20 or the 50?

The more aged folks (and also some younguns!) at shields have difficulty distinguishing between a blue/purple bus showing "Durham" as the destination, when there's also a similarly coloured number (which can be easily transposed in some peoples minds...)

Perhaps moreso when it's a red spares allocation?

Ta

The vehicles with a colour route number (excluding Quaylink) all show white route numbers now opposed to something with a colour background. This is to provide consistency with the new vehicles in the fleet which only have white LED displays, and also means that the route numbers can be larger than normal with a colour square behind it.

The colour route numbers are also more difficult to read from a distance, especially at night, when there's a coloured square behind the number. I guess if passengers find it difficult to distinguish between the colour of the buses, they'll find it equally as difficult to distinguish between colours on the destination display too.
Dan
21 Oct 2015, 12:15 pm #709

(21 Oct 2015, 5:48 am)NK53 TKT Just a question, what services are Vykings allocated to at Riverside?

(21 Oct 2015, 8:23 am)Transbus574 As far as I'm aware they are only allocated to scholars then they sit spare in the depot and a couple at gateshead until needed on service work to cover breakdowns etc

One running board on services 64/64A and 95/96 is covered by a dual-door Volvo B7TL at the moment and all others are on scholars (some of which do interwork with some 'normal' services). Two Volvo B7TLs are parked up at Gateshead Interchange during the day, in between scholars.


(21 Oct 2015, 8:33 am)Jimmi If anyone sees the StreetDeck on the X9/X10 today, let me know.

It won't be on services X9/X10 this afternoon.


(21 Oct 2015, 8:58 am)JakeSavage Hey Dan/Citaro: appreciate there's a limit to requests, but would it be possible to think about changing the number colour on either the 20 or the 50?

The more aged folks (and also some younguns!) at shields have difficulty distinguishing between a blue/purple bus showing "Durham" as the destination, when there's also a similarly coloured number (which can be easily transposed in some peoples minds...)

Perhaps moreso when it's a red spares allocation?

Ta

The vehicles with a colour route number (excluding Quaylink) all show white route numbers now opposed to something with a colour background. This is to provide consistency with the new vehicles in the fleet which only have white LED displays, and also means that the route numbers can be larger than normal with a colour square behind it.

The colour route numbers are also more difficult to read from a distance, especially at night, when there's a coloured square behind the number. I guess if passengers find it difficult to distinguish between the colour of the buses, they'll find it equally as difficult to distinguish between colours on the destination display too.

1833
21 Oct 2015, 12:58 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 8:58 am)JakeSavage Hey Dan/Citaro: appreciate there's a limit to requests, but would it be possible to think about changing the number colour on either the 20 or the 50?

The more aged folks (and also some younguns!) at shields have difficulty distinguishing between a blue/purple bus showing "Durham" as the destination, when there's also a similarly coloured number (which can be easily transposed in some peoples minds...)

Perhaps moreso when it's a red spares allocation?

Ta

Same could be said for 309/310, 58 & 56 at market Street,  the Q1 & 58 at gateshead. Personally I don't see how people get confused as it's not as if they are even the same type of bus. Think people should look at the route number if in doubt, it is clear enough....

When the 921 stopped at the same stand at heworth as the X10, people still got on the 921 expecting to go to Middlesbrough. Needless to say they weren't happy when they were told they couldn't get off until Rainton Smile
JP6004
21 Oct 2015, 12:58 pm #710

(21 Oct 2015, 8:58 am)JakeSavage Hey Dan/Citaro: appreciate there's a limit to requests, but would it be possible to think about changing the number colour on either the 20 or the 50?

The more aged folks (and also some younguns!) at shields have difficulty distinguishing between a blue/purple bus showing "Durham" as the destination, when there's also a similarly coloured number (which can be easily transposed in some peoples minds...)

Perhaps moreso when it's a red spares allocation?

Ta

Same could be said for 309/310, 58 & 56 at market Street,  the Q1 & 58 at gateshead. Personally I don't see how people get confused as it's not as if they are even the same type of bus. Think people should look at the route number if in doubt, it is clear enough....

When the 921 stopped at the same stand at heworth as the X10, people still got on the 921 expecting to go to Middlesbrough. Needless to say they weren't happy when they were told they couldn't get off until Rainton Smile

14270
21 Oct 2015, 1:18 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 12:58 pm)JP6004 Same could be said for 309/310, 58 & 56 at market Street,  the Q1 & 58 at gateshead. Personally I don't see how people get confused as it's not as if they are even the same type of bus. Think people should look at the route number if in doubt, it is clear enough....

When the 921 stopped at the same stand at heworth as the X10, people still got on the 921 expecting to go to Middlesbrough. Needless to say they weren't happy when they were told they couldn't get off until Rainton Smile

Just as some people get mixed up with similar letters, like b or d - they can get mixed up between a 2 & 5.
Just the way the mind works I suppose.

When the destination is the same and they're getting mixed up with a 2 & 5, I can see where some confusion might arise.

Although the DDA can't cover everything, I am surprised their isn't some scope for recognised learning difficulties, such as dyslexia or duscalculia (http://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk/dyslexic/dyscalculia)
I have mentioned the colours used previously and how some process information, when the colours contrast. Black and white, being one of the worst combinations for those with dyslexia for example.
For those without it, it is arguably the clearest combination.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
21 Oct 2015, 1:18 pm #711

(21 Oct 2015, 12:58 pm)JP6004 Same could be said for 309/310, 58 & 56 at market Street,  the Q1 & 58 at gateshead. Personally I don't see how people get confused as it's not as if they are even the same type of bus. Think people should look at the route number if in doubt, it is clear enough....

When the 921 stopped at the same stand at heworth as the X10, people still got on the 921 expecting to go to Middlesbrough. Needless to say they weren't happy when they were told they couldn't get off until Rainton Smile

Just as some people get mixed up with similar letters, like b or d - they can get mixed up between a 2 & 5.
Just the way the mind works I suppose.

When the destination is the same and they're getting mixed up with a 2 & 5, I can see where some confusion might arise.

Although the DDA can't cover everything, I am surprised their isn't some scope for recognised learning difficulties, such as dyslexia or duscalculia (http://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk/dyslexic/dyscalculia)
I have mentioned the colours used previously and how some process information, when the colours contrast. Black and white, being one of the worst combinations for those with dyslexia for example.
For those without it, it is arguably the clearest combination.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

406
21 Oct 2015, 3:03 pm
5218 is now branded Green Arrow.
park5354
21 Oct 2015, 3:03 pm #712

5218 is now branded Green Arrow.

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
21 Oct 2015, 3:07 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 3:03 pm)park5354 5218 is now branded Green Arrow.

I believe 5227 was also branded last night, though both examples are currently off the road for PSV.
Dan
21 Oct 2015, 3:07 pm #713

(21 Oct 2015, 3:03 pm)park5354 5218 is now branded Green Arrow.

I believe 5227 was also branded last night, though both examples are currently off the road for PSV.

Diamond One
Banned
1793
21 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 3:07 pm)Dan I believe 5227 was also branded last night, though both examples are currently off the road for PSV.

i saw a few red scanias kicking on there today and a few renowns even one eclispe 2 were not on 5 today as the other one was on 10A
Diamond One
21 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm #714

(21 Oct 2015, 3:07 pm)Dan I believe 5227 was also branded last night, though both examples are currently off the road for PSV.

i saw a few red scanias kicking on there today and a few renowns even one eclispe 2 were not on 5 today as the other one was on 10A

DanPicken
Banned
2177
21 Oct 2015, 6:13 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm)Diamond One i saw a few red scanias kicking on there today and a few renowns even one eclispe 2 were not on 5 today as the other one was on 10A

There would be Red Solars there's 4932/3.
DanPicken
21 Oct 2015, 6:13 pm #715

(21 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm)Diamond One i saw a few red scanias kicking on there today and a few renowns even one eclispe 2 were not on 5 today as the other one was on 10A

There would be Red Solars there's 4932/3.

Diamond One
Banned
1793
21 Oct 2015, 6:29 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 6:13 pm)DanPicken There would be Red Solars there's 4932/3.

4932 was on 31/32 duty today
Diamond One
21 Oct 2015, 6:29 pm #716

(21 Oct 2015, 6:13 pm)DanPicken There would be Red Solars there's 4932/3.

4932 was on 31/32 duty today

6030
21 Oct 2015, 7:03 pm
6129 was spotted at Teams today:

[Image: 21731342354_bd80d0ca28.jpg]Go North East 6129 (GX03SVD). Teams, Gateshead 21.10.2015 by Brian H, on Flickr
S813 FVK
21 Oct 2015, 7:03 pm #717

6129 was spotted at Teams today:

[Image: 21731342354_bd80d0ca28.jpg]Go North East 6129 (GX03SVD). Teams, Gateshead 21.10.2015 by Brian H, on Flickr

6030
21 Oct 2015, 7:17 pm
5284 and 5291 have both gained route details alongside their 'Durham diamond' branding:

5284: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/22...otostream/
5291: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/21...otostream/
S813 FVK
21 Oct 2015, 7:17 pm #718

5284 and 5291 have both gained route details alongside their 'Durham diamond' branding:

5284: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/22...otostream/
5291: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/21...otostream/

424
21 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm
Saw a training bus in Darlington today, 8246 I think. Been a few down that way lately.
MrPottski
21 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm #719

Saw a training bus in Darlington today, 8246 I think. Been a few down that way lately.

21 Oct 2015, 7:24 pm
(21 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm)MrPottski Saw a training bus in Darlington today, 8246 I think. Been a few down that way lately.

Very odd
Wonder why?
Restart the OK1?  Big Grin
NK53 TKT
21 Oct 2015, 7:24 pm #720

(21 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm)MrPottski Saw a training bus in Darlington today, 8246 I think. Been a few down that way lately.

Very odd
Wonder why?
Restart the OK1?  Big Grin

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