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Michael



19,175
11 Oct 2015, 6:51 pm #421
(11 Oct 2015, 6:34 pm)Dan Younger vehicles have a higher book value than older vehicles. If the "Fab Fifty Seven" branded Volvo B10BLEs still have quite a high book value, they will need to remain in the fleet  beyond this year, and they will also have the cost of the DDA modifications to cover too.

I believe there's a substantial difference between those Scania OmniDekkas new in 2003 and those new in 2004, which perhaps explains why the latter examples are also being re-trimmed, as they'll have to spend longer in the fleet to depreciate the entire book value.

I wonder if they'll get done then to remain in the fleet so they can be sold on later then.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Oct 2015, 6:51 pm #421

(11 Oct 2015, 6:34 pm)Dan Younger vehicles have a higher book value than older vehicles. If the "Fab Fifty Seven" branded Volvo B10BLEs still have quite a high book value, they will need to remain in the fleet  beyond this year, and they will also have the cost of the DDA modifications to cover too.

I believe there's a substantial difference between those Scania OmniDekkas new in 2003 and those new in 2004, which perhaps explains why the latter examples are also being re-trimmed, as they'll have to spend longer in the fleet to depreciate the entire book value.

I wonder if they'll get done then to remain in the fleet so they can be sold on later then.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

B10man



35
11 Oct 2015, 6:51 pm #422
Its a lot more complicated than that Dan.
B10man
11 Oct 2015, 6:51 pm #422

Its a lot more complicated than that Dan.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,123
11 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm #423
(11 Oct 2015, 6:51 pm)B10man Its a lot more complicated than that Dan.

Feel free to expand upon my explanation of basic accountancy, using your superior knowledge?  Cool
Dan
11 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm #423

(11 Oct 2015, 6:51 pm)B10man Its a lot more complicated than that Dan.

Feel free to expand upon my explanation of basic accountancy, using your superior knowledge?  Cool

Michael



19,175
11 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm #424
(11 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm)Dan Feel free to expand upon my explanation of basic accountancy, using your superior knowledge?  Cool

Sorry Dan, what was that response... i'm sure you said the other day, people shouldn't think they know more than others....

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm #424

(11 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm)Dan Feel free to expand upon my explanation of basic accountancy, using your superior knowledge?  Cool

Sorry Dan, what was that response... i'm sure you said the other day, people shouldn't think they know more than others....


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

B10man



35
11 Oct 2015, 7:31 pm #425
I meant there is more to selling a bus than simply how old it is.
B10man
11 Oct 2015, 7:31 pm #425

I meant there is more to selling a bus than simply how old it is.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,123
11 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm #426
(11 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm)Michael Sorry Dan, what was that response... i'm sure you said the other day, people shouldn't think they know more than others....

What's rattled your cage, haha? I'm not sure when I said that, mind..! Regardless of who said it originally, I think you're pulling the wrong person for being guilty of that?

I was wanting to know how it was more complicated, when buses aren't typically disposed of (unless they're being sold on within the group) if they haven't fully depreciated and the vehicle still has quite a large book value... Basic accountancy!
Dan
11 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm #426

(11 Oct 2015, 7:22 pm)Michael Sorry Dan, what was that response... i'm sure you said the other day, people shouldn't think they know more than others....

What's rattled your cage, haha? I'm not sure when I said that, mind..! Regardless of who said it originally, I think you're pulling the wrong person for being guilty of that?

I was wanting to know how it was more complicated, when buses aren't typically disposed of (unless they're being sold on within the group) if they haven't fully depreciated and the vehicle still has quite a large book value... Basic accountancy!

Michael



19,175
11 Oct 2015, 7:41 pm #427
(11 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm)Dan What's rattled your cage, haha? I'm not sure when I said that, mind..! Regardless of who said it originally, I think you're pulling the wrong person for being guilty of that?

I was wanting to know how it was more complicated, when buses aren't typically disposed of (unless they're being sold on within the group) if they haven't fully depreciated and the vehicle still has quite a large book value... Basic accountancy!

Sure i read it, not sure who it was though so i just chose you Wink haha

Also whats rattled my cage? - everything atm.
Edited 11 Oct 2015, 7:44 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Oct 2015, 7:41 pm #427

(11 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm)Dan What's rattled your cage, haha? I'm not sure when I said that, mind..! Regardless of who said it originally, I think you're pulling the wrong person for being guilty of that?

I was wanting to know how it was more complicated, when buses aren't typically disposed of (unless they're being sold on within the group) if they haven't fully depreciated and the vehicle still has quite a large book value... Basic accountancy!

Sure i read it, not sure who it was though so i just chose you Wink haha

Also whats rattled my cage? - everything atm.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

11 Oct 2015, 8:19 pm #428
There would have been a logic to making the 12/12A Blaydon Racers as it shares the routes around Blaydon / Winlaton with the 49/49A, using the five "spare" Citaros now believed to be going to the 57; the Omnicities for the 12 going to the 57 instead. There is no common factor between the 12/12A and the X30/31 to be in the same brand.
Greg in Weardale
11 Oct 2015, 8:19 pm #428

There would have been a logic to making the 12/12A Blaydon Racers as it shares the routes around Blaydon / Winlaton with the 49/49A, using the five "spare" Citaros now believed to be going to the 57; the Omnicities for the 12 going to the 57 instead. There is no common factor between the 12/12A and the X30/31 to be in the same brand.

S813 FVK



6,030
11 Oct 2015, 8:21 pm #429
(11 Oct 2015, 8:19 pm)Greg in Weardale There would have been a logic to making the 12/12A Blaydon Racers as it shares the routes around Blaydon / Winlaton with the 49/49A, using the five "spare" Citaros now believed to be going to the 57; the Omnicities for the 12 going to the 57 instead. There is no common factor between the 12/12A and the X30/31 to be in the same brand.

Other than the fact that they both link other places with the 'toon'? 

The Fast Cats services don't have a common factor between them (apart from both going to Sunderland) and nothing has ever been said about it.
S813 FVK
11 Oct 2015, 8:21 pm #429

(11 Oct 2015, 8:19 pm)Greg in Weardale There would have been a logic to making the 12/12A Blaydon Racers as it shares the routes around Blaydon / Winlaton with the 49/49A, using the five "spare" Citaros now believed to be going to the 57; the Omnicities for the 12 going to the 57 instead. There is no common factor between the 12/12A and the X30/31 to be in the same brand.

Other than the fact that they both link other places with the 'toon'? 

The Fast Cats services don't have a common factor between them (apart from both going to Sunderland) and nothing has ever been said about it.

11 Oct 2015, 8:31 pm #430
X36 became Fast Cats to interwork with X35.
Greg in Weardale
11 Oct 2015, 8:31 pm #430

X36 became Fast Cats to interwork with X35.

S813 FVK



6,030
11 Oct 2015, 8:50 pm #431
(11 Oct 2015, 8:31 pm)Greg in Weardale X36 became Fast Cats to interwork with X35.

Which it no longer does.
S813 FVK
11 Oct 2015, 8:50 pm #431

(11 Oct 2015, 8:31 pm)Greg in Weardale X36 became Fast Cats to interwork with X35.

Which it no longer does.

Michael



19,175
11 Oct 2015, 9:23 pm #432
(11 Oct 2015, 8:50 pm)S813 FVK Which it no longer does.

I think the brand suits both routes although i think the X35 deserves better buses now, which will make the brand have 2 sets of buses... which we know GNE are not keen on... i'm not sure how well the X36 does since it changed.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Oct 2015, 9:23 pm #432

(11 Oct 2015, 8:50 pm)S813 FVK Which it no longer does.

I think the brand suits both routes although i think the X35 deserves better buses now, which will make the brand have 2 sets of buses... which we know GNE are not keen on... i'm not sure how well the X36 does since it changed.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Diamond One

Banned

1,793
12 Oct 2015, 7:08 am #433
(11 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm)Dan What's rattled your cage, haha? I'm not sure when I said that, mind..! Regardless of who said it originally, I think you're pulling the wrong person for being guilty of that?

I was wanting to know how it was more complicated, when buses aren't typically disposed of (unless they're being sold on within the group) if they haven't fully depreciated and the vehicle still has quite a large book value... Basic accountancy!
Happy Birthday NEB Commander Dan
Edited 12 Oct 2015, 7:10 am by Diamond One.
Diamond One
12 Oct 2015, 7:08 am #433

(11 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm)Dan What's rattled your cage, haha? I'm not sure when I said that, mind..! Regardless of who said it originally, I think you're pulling the wrong person for being guilty of that?

I was wanting to know how it was more complicated, when buses aren't typically disposed of (unless they're being sold on within the group) if they haven't fully depreciated and the vehicle still has quite a large book value... Basic accountancy!
Happy Birthday NEB Commander Dan

Dan

Site Administrator

18,123
12 Oct 2015, 8:05 am #434
(09 Oct 2015, 7:43 pm)Sidthebusbabe The current standalone 47 timetable advertises the service as running every 15 minutes!

(10 Oct 2015, 9:02 am)NK53 TKT Ha, can you tell me a timetable that has the CORRECT info on it  Angel

Could you advise me of any others with typos - other than the ones recently picked up on?

(12 Oct 2015, 7:08 am)Diamond One Happy Birthday NEB Commander Dan

Cheers.
Dan
12 Oct 2015, 8:05 am #434

(09 Oct 2015, 7:43 pm)Sidthebusbabe The current standalone 47 timetable advertises the service as running every 15 minutes!

(10 Oct 2015, 9:02 am)NK53 TKT Ha, can you tell me a timetable that has the CORRECT info on it  Angel

Could you advise me of any others with typos - other than the ones recently picked up on?

(12 Oct 2015, 7:08 am)Diamond One Happy Birthday NEB Commander Dan

Cheers.

Davie

Banned

2,783
12 Oct 2015, 8:24 am #435
It looked as if 5392 had broke down in Gateshead
Davie
12 Oct 2015, 8:24 am #435

It looked as if 5392 had broke down in Gateshead

12 Oct 2015, 12:10 pm #436
Fleet News - 12/10/2015:

Volvo B10BLE 4910 has been transferred from Percy Main to Deptford and MPDs 547 from Deptford to Stanley and 560 from Hexham to Deptford. More vehicles sold are Tridents 3802, 3871, 3877, Volvo B10BLEs 4843, 4847,4853, 5145, 5146 and 5150 to Ensign Bus Co. Trident 3803 and Volvo B10BLE 5164 have gone to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade.

3874 not in service
Go North East
12 Oct 2015, 12:10 pm #436

Fleet News - 12/10/2015:

Volvo B10BLE 4910 has been transferred from Percy Main to Deptford and MPDs 547 from Deptford to Stanley and 560 from Hexham to Deptford. More vehicles sold are Tridents 3802, 3871, 3877, Volvo B10BLEs 4843, 4847,4853, 5145, 5146 and 5150 to Ensign Bus Co. Trident 3803 and Volvo B10BLE 5164 have gone to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade.

3874 not in service

Davie

Banned

2,783
12 Oct 2015, 2:32 pm #437
5157's rear blind isn't working
Davie
12 Oct 2015, 2:32 pm #437

5157's rear blind isn't working

cbma06



2,669
12 Oct 2015, 2:59 pm #438
(11 Oct 2015, 9:23 pm)Michael I think the brand suits both routes although i think the X35 deserves better buses now, which will make the brand have 2 sets of buses... which we know GNE are not keen on... i'm not sure how well the X36 does since it changed.

The X35 should be upgraded to cascaded citarios and maybe a revised brand with Wifi etc... to compete against Arriva service 23, the X36 should turn iinto a X56 and come out of the fast cats brand, and some members think that the fast cats brand and the old black cats brand which was for service 26/36 has to do with SAFC, in which these 2 brands have no association with SAFC.


cbma06
12 Oct 2015, 2:59 pm #438

(11 Oct 2015, 9:23 pm)Michael I think the brand suits both routes although i think the X35 deserves better buses now, which will make the brand have 2 sets of buses... which we know GNE are not keen on... i'm not sure how well the X36 does since it changed.

The X35 should be upgraded to cascaded citarios and maybe a revised brand with Wifi etc... to compete against Arriva service 23, the X36 should turn iinto a X56 and come out of the fast cats brand, and some members think that the fast cats brand and the old black cats brand which was for service 26/36 has to do with SAFC, in which these 2 brands have no association with SAFC.



S813 FVK



6,030
12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm #439
Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.
Edited 12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm #439

Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.

12 Oct 2015, 3:18 pm #440
(12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm)S813 FVK Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.

I am an angry person  Angry
WHY!?!?!?
NK53 TKT
12 Oct 2015, 3:18 pm #440

(12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm)S813 FVK Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.

I am an angry person  Angry
WHY!?!?!?

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